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[ScottishSecurity]

Decided to go with bank loan..

We have closed our listed.

Thanks.

[Vod]

Why does someone need to upgrade infrastructure in the era of the "cloud"?  Just purchase what you need, as you need it.  Look into virtualization.

[ScottishSecurity]

Why does someone need to upgrade infrastructure in the era of the "cloud"?  Just purchase what you need, as you need it.  Look into virtualization.

We offer our customers a secure backend for there services,

We need to buy a new server for our data room and some additional coms equipment for our staff.
We would never offer customers cloud services that are not under our 100% control.

I would have to say we are buying what we need when we need it and virtualization is not always suitable for every business

Thanks for looking thought and the feedback.

Scottish Security

[Vod]

Why does someone need to upgrade infrastructure in the era of the "cloud"?  Just purchase what you need, as you need it.  Look into virtualization.

We offer our customers a secure backend for there services,

We need to buy a new server for our data room and some additional coms equipment for our staff.
We would never offer customers cloud services that are not under our 100% control.

I would have to say we are buying what we need when we need it and virtualization is not always suitable for every business

Thanks for looking thought and the feedback.

Scottish Security

What is your hosting URL so we can verify you do your own hosting?

[ScottishSecurity]

Why does someone need to upgrade infrastructure in the era of the "cloud"?  Just purchase what you need, as you need it.  Look into virtualization.

We offer our customers a secure backend for there services,

We need to buy a new server for our data room and some additional coms equipment for our staff.
We would never offer customers cloud services that are not under our 100% control.

I would have to say we are buying what we need when we need it and virtualization is not always suitable for every business

Thanks for looking thought and the feedback.

Scottish Security

What is your hosting URL so we can verify you do your own hosting?

We do not host websites..
Our main operations are secure/encrypted coms and secure encrypted backups for our customers.
We also offer monitored cctv and alarms and key holding.

We do not host sites for customers at the moment we offer them a way to secure there backend data and records with us.
The server we are looking at buying will increase our capacity and ability to hold more data for our customers.

[Vod]

We do not host websites..
Our main operations are secure/encrypted coms and secure encrypted backups for our customers.
We also offer monitored cctv and alarms and key holding.

We do not host sites for customers at the moment we offer them a way to secure there backend data and records with us.
The server we are looking at buying will increase our capacity and ability to hold more data for our customers.

OK... provide the operational IP of your backend so we can verify your story.

[ScottishSecurity]

I won't be posting any IP address that is outside our opertational remit. It would also be very poor practice for us to post such info on a public forum to someone we know nothing about..

[Vod]

I won't be posting any IP address that is outside our opertational remit. It would also be very poor practice for us to post such info on a public forum to someone we know nothing about..

We are fully verified with BTC jam with out business info and bank accounts.

Because there is no server, is there?  

I find it hard to believe a poorly educated person such as yourself could run a security company.  You're not even confident enough in your services to provide an IP address that would be publicly available to anyone using your service.  Is your security based on the fact no one knows your IP?

You don't need $4,000 to purchase storage space for your business.  You can add terabytes on for dollars a month.  Your story does not make sense.  Virtualization is what you need.

You brought your scam here.  We are more intelligent than the people on BTCJam, and we are not as easily fooled.  Your business info and back accounts are useless because BTCJam will not release that info when you default.

[Vod]

Yep - good time to go offline while you think of your next excuse.

[ScottishSecurity]

Yep - good time to go offline while you think of your next excuse.

1. There is a server. Did you not look above at the screen shot of the server? It quite clearley shows our Cpanel for our customers.

2. We do not have public servcies so we do not have a public IP We are contracted by company's to undertake work for them.. There is no public service and our server is a secure backup server so there is no chance in hell we would post a IP address linked to secure storeage for our customers.

3. I do not accept your claim that we can upgrade for less money.. We do not "sub" out any of our work to any other company we own INHOUSE servers to host all our data. virtualization is also not something that we would be interested in.. and we can't add space we must upgrade!

4. we working in GBP as we are a UK company.. so its more like £2000 once we exchange.

5. You say you are intelligent from where I stand you seem to be more of troll. just spouting out random crap to try bash us down and stop people investing..
I don't plan on defaulting on my payments we have a structured repayment plan in place to cover our loan. We were going to take a loan from the bank but we decided to stick with BTCjam and we believe in crypto and want to support it rather that support the banks

6. We thought bringing our listing here would be a good idea but after some reflection we now realise that the forum is plagued with this kind of negative and quite horrible responses by people. We are fully verified with my ID and bank accounts and address. You are more than welcome to speak to me on the phone I can supply you with my contact info if you have any concerns..

7. please note we also paid off our last loan before time. which should count for something.

[Vod]

It's quite typical for scammers to try and turn the table and call this forum a scam.

All you have to do to prove you are legitimate is provide a domain name or IP address of a public facing website so we can verify you host your own servers.  Don't you have a domain name?  Or do your customers somehow find you and email you at a gmail address? 

Keep your scam on BTCJam^TM

[ScottishSecurity]

It's quite typical for scammers to try and turn the table and call this forum a scam.

All you have to do to prove you are legitimate is provide a domain name or IP address of a public facing website so we can verify you host your own servers.  Don't you have a domain name?  Or do your customers somehow find you and email you at a gmail address? 

Keep your scam on BTCJam^TM

I never called the forum a scam, I said it was a typical response on this forum for any service or post. As I am sure you are well aware.

We do have a domain name.  www.scottishsecurity.net  but it's not hosted on our own servers and its just a general website.
we felt it best to leave our domain on a big hosting company not on our on network for security reason.

1. Being websites are the first attack vector for most hackers. So we decided we would keep the website off our own network. this stops people poking about attempting to gain access to our backend..

2. Treat our website like cold storage.  We keep nothing there. so there is nothing for a hacker / attacker to gain from poking at it. If we hosted it on our own network then that would be a different story. its called split database architecture.  and its in place to prevent hackers getting access to our networks.

3. that gmail address is my personal gmail address. We do not use Gmail for our customers, Each customer is given a email address to contact us on that is not publicly available. again this is to stop people sending us nasty virus's, we deal with cybercrime and hacking attacks on a daily basis so we also take our own personal security very seriously.

Thanks

ScottishSecurity

[ScottishSecurity]

Backend... Not for a general website.. We control our own servers with customer info.. like I said already.. But we host our website on a big name host so its separated from out own network.. Its not hard to understand for someone as "intelligent" as yourself you must be able to see why we do this?

Once the loan is filled and paid back I will be returning to "rub" your face in it..

I have tried to keep a professional head on but you are reading between the lines and generally just talking absolute rubbish..

Please note we are also big investors on btcjam and we are well aware of whats going on there with fake profile and people defaulting on loans..
But don't tar everyone with the same brush without a smidge of proof on your side..

At the moment your are doing nothing but blowing smoke, speculating with no thread of proof.. and we challange you to back up with your saying with some proof..

Another point.  If this was a scam. why would I be here when its over 60% funded?

Thanks again..

Scottish Security




(PS)  this post was in responce to one that Vod posted then removed.. but Ill leave it here for the time being..

[ScottishSecurity]

nice time to go offline vod... trying to think up another stupid way to put us down??

LOL

[Vod]

nice time to go offline vod... trying to think up another stupid way to put us down??

LOL

I think you've done it nicely yourself.    You've certainly proved you are anything but professional.

Doesn't matter if you prove who you are - nothing will force you to repay this "loan".  BTCJam is full of scammers with known identity. 

Consider anything invested here as a donation.

[ScottishSecurity]

nice time to go offline vod... trying to think up another stupid way to put us down??

LOL

I think you've done it nicely yourself.    You've certainly proved you are anything but professional.

Doesn't matter if you prove who you are - nothing will force you to repay this "loan".  BTCJam is full of scammers with known identity.  

Consider anything invested here as a donation.

I think you will find we all have a threshold of what we can take before we "snap" I have answered all your question fully and you have poked and poked at me.. You even removed your last post before I could reply....

Anyone INVESTING with us will see there return.. Like our last loan it was paid off 5 weeks early!

And i think your are wrong.. BTCjam do give investors peoples info if you default..

I'm sure if you look there is a topic here where people have posted the info of people who default and DOX them..

Really its down to trust.. Do you trust we will payback the loan in the time we have specified. If not then that is your choice.. we are not pushing people to invest with us its 100% free choice. that people should make on there own merits and after doing there own research into who we are..

Thanks vod..

Scottish Security

[ScottishSecurity]

I would like to direct everyone to VOD's post back in 2014...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499995.msg5511085#msg5511085

where he quite clearly has some issues with BTCJAM and its users..

You must of started out somewhere VOD? everyone has to start out somewhere but for your to come out and start calling a legitimate service a scam with not a shread of proof and quite a big ego against BTCjam and its users. Why should anyone listen to what you have to say

Anything to add to this vod?

[ScottishSecurity]

nice time to go offline vod... trying to think up another stupid way to put us down??

LOL

I think you've done it nicely yourself.    You've certainly proved you are anything but professional.

Doesn't matter if you prove who you are - nothing will force you to repay this "loan".  BTCJam is full of scammers with known identity.  

Consider anything invested here as a donation.

I was quoting your smart ass comment you left for me.. We Scottish don't take snide or underhand comments lightley. I was only pointing out you went offline too.. most likley to try work your next angle of attack...

[ScottishSecurity]

Why does someone need to upgrade infrastructure in the era of the "cloud"?  Just purchase what you need, as you need it.  Look into virtualization.

Again. Virtualization is not something we would be interested in. Or cloud for that matter.

I think you are under the assumption we are providing hosting.. this is not the case... We offer seucre backups for things like customers records / sales info / customer data, and secure communications platform.

http://cryptumlimited.com/assets/filesManagement/uploads/images/virtualization%20e.jpg
http://blogs.salleurl.edu/data-center-solutions/files/2016/03/vmw-virtualization-defined.jpg

Here is what we are running as out back end.. its not pointing at the internet its a internal intranet!
This is where you are wrong. You are thinking we are hosting when infact its our internal intranet we are working on

https://i.imgur.com/IgfoVjf.jpg

[ScottishSecurity]

nice time to go offline vod... trying to think up another stupid way to put us down??

LOL

I think you've done it nicely yourself.    You've certainly proved you are anything but professional.

Doesn't matter if you prove who you are - nothing will force you to repay this "loan".  BTCJam is full of scammers with known identity.  

Consider anything invested here as a donation.

I have spoken on multiple acasions with there staff.
No one likes scammers, We have lost BTC on investments on BTC jam on multiple times so we know how it feels.