What BitCoin could learn from life (or why bitcoin community deserves a spanking

[shamaniotastook]

first of all, i think it's funny how many arm-chair quarterbacks i see...everyone offering to hire a professional to do this, or pay a developer to do that...but what's in shortage? that's right...technical developers...why? because what we do is not easy. you wanna-be hackers and side-show marketing/sales/management types have no-one to peddle your snake-oil here...

i firmly believe that EVERYTHING needed to take BitCoin to the next level is right here in this community. What's needed is less quarterbacking and more actual effort. I, for one, have an idea that i've been working on. But rather than blow it about and make a big deal, i just keep working on it until it's ready for prime-time. but i'm not just in here blabbering about it, or proposing someone do it, or offering to pay someone to do it, i'm just doing it! what I feel is right.

now i'm a developer and others have other skills. i am not writing test cases for my code, for example, not even unit tests, though i am fully testing of my code and it's pristine (in my coding style), and fully commented (well, almost). But my point is that I am doing my part, in what way i feel is best, and I think that what's needed is for leaders not to stand up and point which direction everyone should go, but simply everyone should start following those who are producing...

for example:

if someone starts a code review of the client with the intent of deriving a spec for an API wrapper class, or even to identify where to 'split' functionality between client/server, whatever...then help with the review if you have that skill...if not, then you can help with setting up testnodes, preparing test-plans and use-cases, or whatever it takes...but it's not just about quality of development. the community needs to expand beyond discussions of finney attacks or the 51% attack, etc., and start embracing discussions of open web standards like NoSQL, HTTPS, OAuth, JSON, HTML5, etc., and building applications that are stable, do not 'attack/spam' the blockchain and move the community forward.

but sitting back on your pompus asses shouting out plays from the comfort of your lazy-boy just isn't going to get anyone anywhere...

true leaders don't shout 'hey, there's an iceburg', they turn the fucking ship! so actually do something, or get the hell out of the way of those trying to get things done!

[DobZombie]

What BitCoin could learn from life (or why bitcoin community deserves a spanking

first of all, i think it's funny how many arm-chair quarterbacks i see...

You're missing a bracket at the end of the thread title

[grau]

i am not writing test cases for my code, for example, not even unit tests, ...

Are you Satoshi?

[cbeast]

You sound like the perfect person for a project I was thinking about...

[markm]

Shout out those plays a little louder will you old chap, not everyone can hear you!

-MarkM-

[DeathAndTaxes]

now i'm a developer and others have other skills. i am not writing test cases for my code, for example, not even unit tests

Um?  In any other area this might be not that bad but we are talking about irreversible money here.  Sorry not really sure why you wanted to include this is your explanation/rant/thesis-thing but it kinda derailed my thought process.  You obviously know about the merits of unit testing, you obviously know you should be, and yet ...

[Melbustus]

Ok, as a developer I can sympathize with the sentiment to some degree, but as an entrepreneur who's gotten a few (small) startups off the ground, I think you have to respect the value of other skillsets a little more. Good leadership, good marketing, good design, are all also very important. Most startups really need to fire on all cylinders to be successful. I'm appreciating this more and more as time goes by.

Yes, you can get lucky and have a one-hit wonder; ie, you build it, and then they come (and therefore you only needed technical talent), but that's rare. Most of the time you need a great *team* with a variety of skillsets.

[pretendo]

OP, if you are a skilled and experienced programmer that is good with back-end stuff and datamining, message me.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Cool, a doer.

Send me a link to your code and I'll start building tests, use cases porting it to multiple platforms whatever you like for it .... reserve the right to quarterback after the real work is done though.

[MashRinx]

Did someone say they were giving out spankings, or was that in another thread.?
Just curious...

[nebulus]

Umm... Unit tests are pretty useful... Doing a serious project without them is like replacing a thousand of repeating words with a text editor without the replace command. A Major pain...

[BTCisthefuture]

Nothing wrong with having an idea and hiring more technical people to carry out that idea for you, as long as you reward them financially for doing so.

There's a lot of people who have great ideas and are willing to put money into but they don't have the technical no how so they need to hire people.  On the flip side I know a lot of engineers who can code very well but wouldn't know the first thing abotu running a business or marketing and sales etc etc. 

[wumpus]

but sitting back on your pompus asses shouting out plays from the comfort of your lazy-boy just isn't going to get anyone anywhere...

true leaders don't shout 'hey, there's an iceburg', they turn the fucking ship! so actually do something, or get the hell out of the way of those trying to get things done!

I have to agree that this always bothered me. For what started as an open source community, there's a lot of talk here, but very few people that actually pick up their keyboard and contribute. We can use more doers. But on the other hand I have to say it's already much better than, say, 1-2 years ago, when I even left the forums due to trolling and noise.

BTW we can use more and better testcases for the bitcoin core, too Feel free to help out!

[auzaar]

What BitCoin could learn from life (or why bitcoin community deserves a spanking

first of all, i think it's funny how many arm-chair quarterbacks i see...

You're missing a bracket at the end of the thread title

Still not fixed, we are trying to help here but OP is not doing his  JOB

[benjamindees]

Did someone say they were giving out spankings, or was that in another thread.?
Just curious...

Thread promises spankings, delivers middle-management pep talk.

[marcus_of_augustus]

Did someone say they were giving out spankings, or was that in another thread.?
Just curious...

Thread promises spankings, delivers middle-management pep talk.

Rah-rah-rah! ... WHACK!
Boom-t-shikka-boom-t-shikka ... WHACK! WHACK!
La-la-la! ... WHACK!

... better?