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June 27, 2016, 08:54:34 PM
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Hi all,

For the past two years I've been actively trying to expose cryptocurrency-related scams, and by now my blog is featuring nearly 50 extensive service assessments. These reports are standardized and comparable tests for the legitimacy of any service subjected to it. Over time these fraud risk assessments have also proven to be effective at identifying scams. For example, HashOcean, Topmine and Cldmine were all high up on the scam list. Since the assessments are rather extensive, the only obvious downside has always been the fact that new scams tend to appear faster than it’s possible to assess all of them. Sad

To address the former, I launched my fraud assessment tool (FAT) about two weeks ago. This is a simplified questionnaire that features many items typically included in my assessments, and immediately provides feedback as well based on the input. In short, it helps anyone in doing a quick and dirty scam assessment on any (new) investment/cloud mining service. Cheesy

The reason I'm posting this here is because I'm hoping to receive some feedback on this tool. Given the content on the board this seemed like the proper place to ask. I included a feedback field in the tool, but even though the tool has been used quite a few times, it hasn't really returned much feedback yet. Given that this was the first release of the tool, although based on significant experience, I really doubt it's perfect straight off the go. Tongue

Link to Fraud Assessment Tool

What I would like to know is whether all questions properly formulated, and how the tool is experienced overall. Are there any people here willing to have a look at this? Smiley

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June 27, 2016, 09:00:08 PM
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It's an interesting tool. One thing I noticed is that it is possible to select both the yes and no options together for a
question. From a usability standpoint, you should ideally only be able to select yes (thumbs up) or no (thumbs down).

Other than that, I like it. If nothing else, it will make folks really take a good look at the companies they are putting
their hard earned bitcoin into.

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June 27, 2016, 09:03:50 PM
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After recent events, there should be one question and one answer... The first question, pick either of the options, then a big red SCAM in bold type should pop up.

jk but not really - will check it out, ty OP
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June 27, 2016, 10:09:06 PM
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I haven't completed the 19 steps yet, but as far as I can tell, there isn't any kind of statement or ToS that disallows butthurt people to complain about your tool if it ends up predicting incorrectly. Perhaps that is something worth taking a look into, since more and more people nowadays will do anything to makeup their lost capital and push the blame on other people.

I like the idea, though. Keep up the good work. Smiley
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June 27, 2016, 10:19:08 PM
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I haven't completed the 19 steps yet, but as far as I can tell, there isn't any kind of statement or ToS that disallows butthurt people to complain about your tool if it ends up predicting incorrectly. Perhaps that is something worth taking a look into, since more and more people nowadays will do anything to makeup their lost capital and push the blame on other people.

I like the idea, though. Keep up the good work. Smiley

That's actually a very good point. You need to have some kind of disclaimer in an obvious location so that
folks can't come back and blame you for their bad choices.

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June 28, 2016, 08:21:36 PM
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It's an interesting tool. One thing I noticed is that it is possible to select both the yes and no options together for a
question. From a usability standpoint, you should ideally only be able to select yes (thumbs up) or no (thumbs down).

Other than that, I like it. If nothing else, it will make folks really take a good look at the companies they are putting
their hard earned bitcoin into.

Thank you! I actually tried making it so that a yes/no would automatically forward (that would save a few clicks), but obviously no luck so far Tongue I do need it like this for the first question. Multiple company types could apply (hope this is clear as well?). It's more a technical limitation, but this motivates me even more to get it done Wink

I haven't completed the 19 steps yet, but as far as I can tell, there isn't any kind of statement or ToS that disallows butthurt people to complain about your tool if it ends up predicting incorrectly. Perhaps that is something worth taking a look into, since more and more people nowadays will do anything to makeup their lost capital and push the blame on other people.

I like the idea, though. Keep up the good work. Smiley

That's actually a very good point. You need to have some kind of disclaimer in an obvious location so that
folks can't come back and blame you for their bad choices.

Indeed, excellent remark! I normally include a disclaimer in my regular assessments, but despite stressing the importance of ToS in the questions I forgot to add it to the tool Embarrassed Thanks! Cheesy
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June 28, 2016, 08:27:13 PM
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It's an interesting tool. One thing I noticed is that it is possible to select both the yes and no options together for a
question. From a usability standpoint, you should ideally only be able to select yes (thumbs up) or no (thumbs down).

Other than that, I like it. If nothing else, it will make folks really take a good look at the companies they are putting
their hard earned bitcoin into.

Thank you! I actually tried making it so that a yes/no would automatically forward (that would save a few clicks), but obviously no luck so far Tongue I do need it like this for the first question. Multiple company types could apply (hope this is clear as well?). It's more a technical limitation, but this motivates me even more to get it done Wink

After recent events, there should be one question and one answer... The first question, pick either of the options, then a big red SCAM in bold type should pop up.

jk but not really - will check it out, ty OP

Haha! I try to make as many available as I can, so people don't even have to start answering questions at all! Wink

I haven't completed the 19 steps yet, but as far as I can tell, there isn't any kind of statement or ToS that disallows butthurt people to complain about your tool if it ends up predicting incorrectly. Perhaps that is something worth taking a look into, since more and more people nowadays will do anything to makeup their lost capital and push the blame on other people.

I like the idea, though. Keep up the good work. Smiley

That's actually a very good point. You need to have some kind of disclaimer in an obvious location so that
folks can't come back and blame you for their bad choices.

Indeed, excellent remark! I normally include a disclaimer in my regular assessments, but despite stressing the importance of ToS in the questions I forgot to add it to the tool Embarrassed Thanks! Cheesy
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June 28, 2016, 08:41:28 PM
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OP should include these questions:

 " the company was registered in the UK? "

 " The domain was registered in panama? "


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June 29, 2016, 08:58:07 PM
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OP should include these questions:

 " the company was registered in the UK? "

 " The domain was registered in panama? "



The first one is in there Smiley Companies House is definitely popular among scammers as they just don't check anything. Roll Eyes I could have made the question more general regarding the quality of the public register, but almost half of the ones I examined have a registration in the UK anyway. Website setup tends to be more varied, although it will typically involve some high risk country. Will think about some possible implementation!
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