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Question: What do you think about NON Provably Fair, Flash Video Slots?
Don't care, would play them anyway if they are nice.
I would play Flash slots if they were Provably Fair.
I hate Flash, I never play Flash slots.
My browser/device doesn't support Flash.
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July 24, 2014, 08:27:05 PM
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I still don't get it why is this provably fair.

Let's take for example the minesweeper. The way you are explaining it is too confusing for me.

"Prior to every play round, we show you both your secret string and a hash containing encoded shuffle data our server generated. After each play round we show you the strings from this hash. By combining these with your computers string and the hash, you can succesfully decode the complete shuffle and thus verify the legitimacy of the round."

In this example:

client seed: 7d12b0c212717696298ddb53f3d6910a230d2b582d2a20e893121e9118bb78a9
hash secret: 96396a01cc90b32589b876d0846b357fe242dfd7670a24457bf49f9861767ed3
server seed: 4048ff404b974156c713ea0055eaad5d9fe94fadd477b95ab3a0240d5ac9bd2c
initial shuffle: 1|1|1|1|1|4|2|2|2
final shuffle: 2|1|1|1|2|1|1|2|4

What should I hash and how to verify exactly? Because I tried to "combine" them, but never got the hash... So either something is wrong, either you need to be more clear about how one can EXACTLY check (not using your software of course ) Smiley



It can be a bit complicated at first glance, definitely if you want to manually decode it, but it's possible.

So before the hand starts, you get the client seed and the hash secret.
After the hand ended, you get the shuffles (the actual outcome, in this case positions of where the bomb was) and the server seed.

Let's go over it;

First the hash secret; to verify it's legit, take the server seed + initial shuffle, so 4048ff404b974156c713ea0055eaad5d9fe94fadd477b95ab3a0240d5ac9bd2c1|1|1|1|1|4|2|2|2 and SHA-256 it, you can do this anywhere online, for example here http://www.xorbin.com/tools/sha256-hash-calculator
You'll see that the outcome is 96396a01cc90b32589b876d0846b357fe242dfd7670a24457bf49f9861767ed3. As this hash was given to you before you played the hand, it proves you that the initial shuffle was not altered at any time.

As you may know we shuffle twice, first the initial shuffle and then a final shuffle using the Fisher-Yates shuffle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher%E2%80%93Yates_shuffle) algorithm, to do this shuffle we use the client seed. Now the client seed is something that we randomly generate for convenience, but you can actually alter this yourself to any string before every play. The client seed is basically a virtual version of "cutting the deck", and depending on your client seed it will "cut" differently.

So to check if the final shuffle matches our outcome, we take the client seed + server seed and add them together, SHA-256 them again and take the bottom 32 bits. The result of that we use as our final seed for our shuffle.

When we use this seed combined with the initial shuffle, and shuffle it using Fisher-Yate, we get the final shuffle.

You could do this manually, or use this open source code we've written: http://jsfiddle.net/VYuH2/4/

As you can see here it is put in the javascript verified (which you can see in the source code, we even commented to show people how it works): https://satoshibet.com/provably_fair?client_seed=7d12b0c212717696298ddb53f3d6910a230d2b582d2a20e893121e9118bb78a9&hash_secret=96396a01cc90b32589b876d0846b357fe242dfd7670a24457bf49f9861767ed3&server_seed=4048ff404b974156c713ea0055eaad5d9fe94fadd477b95ab3a0240d5ac9bd2c&initial_shuffle=1|1|1|1|1|4|2|2|2&final_shuffle=2|1|1|1|2|1|1|2|4&game_type=bombs

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August 01, 2014, 02:08:31 AM
Last edit: August 10, 2014, 02:40:51 AM by BayAreaCoins
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It was so cute to play with bc for me oh well i will do woth litecoins then

Put your big boy pants on and use BTC Wink Cheesy



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August 09, 2014, 06:00:19 PM
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I've got a question.. Here is the screenshot of one of the bets I made playing roulette. This one is with play money, but the same thing happens with real money.

http://i57.tinypic.com/10ydn2h.png

As you can see on the photo, I bet 20 play money on two columns on which the payout rate is supposed to me 2:1 (meaning that in case I win, I should get 60 play money per one column - 20 from my initial bet that I didn't loose and 40 because the payout rate for that field is 2:1 and 20 times 2 equals 40). But on the photo you can see that it says I won only 40 and my balance was credited according to that. So in other words, I'm missing my 20 play money and the payout isn't really 2;1, but 1:1.

Am I wrong?
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August 09, 2014, 07:21:27 PM
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Gonna take a look at this site, looks pretty cool.
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August 11, 2014, 01:00:01 AM
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Emailed them about a missing deposit days ago and no response and no deposit.  Support is shit. Seriously shit.
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August 11, 2014, 12:49:20 PM
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I've got a question.. Here is the screenshot of one of the bets I made playing roulette. This one is with play money, but the same thing happens with real money.

As you can see on the photo, I bet 20 play money on two columns on which the payout rate is supposed to me 2:1 (meaning that in case I win, I should get 60 play money per one column - 20 from my initial bet that I didn't loose and 40 because the payout rate for that field is 2:1 and 20 times 2 equals 40). But on the photo you can see that it says I won only 40 and my balance was credited according to that. So in other words, I'm missing my 20 play money and the payout isn't really 2;1, but 1:1.

Am I wrong?

Say you have 1000$, you bet 20$ on 2:1, so now you have 980$. Then you win, you get 60$, so now you are on 1040$. The green win label does not include your original bet, only what you won on top. If this is confusing maybe we can change it to add the original wager to it.

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August 13, 2014, 03:05:25 AM
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My deposit issue is still not resolved. Amazing customer service right here. Having a hard timd wtime getting 0.0027 btc. That is insane.
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August 13, 2014, 03:15:54 AM
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this very difficult game, i never win on this site

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August 13, 2014, 03:58:34 PM
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Hi guys,

Please take a look at your Minesweeper game.

I was playing a 4x9 game and on I usually take profit after winning on the 3rd row. When I got to the third row and won I saw that it said I have lost the game even though I had not clicked on a mine, and it still let me continue to play the round. I had to play it to the very end to actually get paid seeing as the "TAKE PROFIT" button has turned back into the "START GAME" button.

I have emailed support on this issue as well and provided screenshots.


EDIT: Right after posting this I did get a response from support that they will take a look at it ASAP. Thanks for the quick response.


Regards,
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August 13, 2014, 06:08:25 PM
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My deposit issue is still not resolved. Amazing customer service right here. Having a hard timd wtime getting 0.0027 btc. That is insane.

Hey, I've checked this out for you, your 0.0027 BTC have now been added to your account.

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August 13, 2014, 09:51:48 PM
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this very difficult game, i never win on this site

Isn't winning the house always very difficult, no matter which game you play or which site you use lol?

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August 17, 2014, 07:31:32 PM
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Quick question for you guys...has Dogecoin always been supported or did you just recently start accepting it?
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August 18, 2014, 12:37:41 PM
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Quick question for you guys...has Dogecoin always been supported or did you just recently start accepting it?

We've been accepting it for a few months now.

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August 24, 2014, 03:43:49 AM
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you know i look at bitcoin gambling sites stats everyday http://cryptobettingindex.com/

and i noticed in the last 3-4 weeks your BTC wagering has gone up big time. just wondering what you did to make it happen? was it advertising. i do see your banners a lot


great job BTW


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August 25, 2014, 02:47:54 PM
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Played this site for a while now and usually just blow my coins but actually came out ahead almost 14 btc this weekend. Have to give props for paying it all out with no real issues.
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August 25, 2014, 08:10:14 PM
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you know i look at bitcoin gambling sites stats everyday http://cryptobettingindex.com/

and i noticed in the last 3-4 weeks your BTC wagering has gone up big time. just wondering what you did to make it happen? was it advertising. i do see your banners a lot


great job BTW


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August 25, 2014, 09:25:47 PM
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Proof that this website is amazing, I started with 2 mbtc, and ended with 0, after reaching 19 mbtc.
The only reason i lost it's I became greedy and betted like if i had infinite money Roll Eyes
Next challenge, start with 0.40 mbtc and end with 100 Smiley

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August 26, 2014, 08:25:35 AM
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Proof that this website is amazing, I started with 2 mbtc, and ended with 0, after reaching 19 mbtc.
The only reason i lost it's I became greedy and betted like if i had infinite money Roll Eyes
Next challenge, start with 0.40 mbtc and end with 100 Smiley

This is the site I took .443BTC to like 25+BTC.

Saved my bitcoin career maybe actually

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August 27, 2014, 12:40:52 PM
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Any plans to optimizer for mobile? It doesn't work so well for me. I am on an iPhone on Chrome. Also, anyway for me to get rid of showing my decimal mBTC? Somehow I got .000001 mBTC and it's giving me crazy.
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August 27, 2014, 09:29:03 PM
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Proof that this website is amazing, I started with 2 mbtc, and ended with 0, after reaching 19 mbtc.
The only reason i lost it's I became greedy and betted like if i had infinite money Roll Eyes
Next challenge, start with 0.40 mbtc and end with 100 Smiley

This is the site I took .443BTC to like 25+BTC.

Saved my bitcoin career maybe actually

almost reached my objective... 0.80 mbtc to 75 mbtc. Then i lost it cause I'm gone crazy betting on roulette( MY giant mistake) I had to play blackjack! Cry

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