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March 15, 2013, 03:29:50 AM
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What are some characteristics that the perfect alt coin would have? I am curious as to what the community thinks.

- Number of coins total (as in 21m for btc.. 84m for ltc etc)
- Block frequency (every X minutes)
- Difficulty adjustment frequency (in blocks)
- POW only or some other method of generating coins as well? (POS for example)
- # of coins in a block: Fixed, or variable?

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March 15, 2013, 03:52:37 AM
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Being easier to explain would probably help more than anything.

Convincing the masses to use it will be the ultimate key to success.

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March 15, 2013, 04:36:56 AM
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Each is in its own way perfect! Smiley

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March 15, 2013, 04:42:19 AM
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Each is in its own way perfect! Smiley

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Nice, I like your style Mark.

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March 15, 2013, 05:35:06 AM
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What are some characteristics that the perfect alt coin would have? I am curious as to what the community thinks.

- Number of coins total (as in 21m for btc.. 84m for ltc etc)
- Block frequency (every X minutes)
- Difficulty adjustment frequency (in blocks)
- POW only or some other method of generating coins as well? (POS for example)
- # of coins in a block: Fixed, or variable?

No Max coins, but not exponentially inflationary
No decimal points (average joe/Jane in current age is not math literate enough)
1 minute blocks to compete with CC gateways w/out needing 3 rd party centralized solutions like green addresses
Storage efficient ( something like proposed ledger or hybrid ledger system)
POW algo which normalizes all mining tech to some degree (perhaps a hybrid with POS as an input to the POW difficulty needed to mine a block?)
51% defences which don't require enormous amounts of hash power (perhaps POS being used to resolve chain forks?/merge mineable against 2 or more hash types ie.bit coin and lite coin?)
Variable generates reflective of current economic forces, generate method which encourages relaying valid transactions rapidly through the network
No transaction fees by finding some other means to defeat spam attacks, because with never ending generates tx fees would not be needed to compensate miners.
Mechanisms to include forms of intrinsic value, like name coins DNS like service
Constant variable difficulty, something akin to a difficulty that adjusts every block based on a rolling average over the last N blocks
Improved anonymity over current coin systems, maybe a built in mixer that runs on all addresses all the time? Obviously in a way that doesn't cause block chain bloat.
An intrinsic decentralized way to provide charitable assistance in democratic fashion to worthy causes, perhaps a way for rewarding individuals for supporting things like folding@home, world community grid etc.


There's my quick cut at a brainstorm.... many don't seem too far fetched as they are implemented in pieces in several alts already and much of this is rolling up the good ideas and salting in some fresher ideas as well.

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March 15, 2013, 06:10:06 AM
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No Max coins, but not exponentially inflationary

I love this idea. If you can figure out how to do this and still bootstrap the currency I think you'll have a winner. The promise of extreme riches in the future causes a lot of speculation that imo is a liability for the long-term viability of bitcoin (virtually no merchants will use bitcoin to price their goods because the price is too volatile. A currency that inflates, say, basically down to the cost of electricity for miners would probably have a much more stable value. The only disadvantage is that nobody wants to start this currency because they can't get rich off of it Smiley )

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No decimal points (average joe/Jane in current age is not math literate enough)

I tend to like this as well, but it might be a little more psychologically difficult for people to get started with it.

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Storage efficient ( something like proposed ledger or hybrid ledger system)

Yes, please!

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No transaction fees by finding some other means to defeat spam attacks, because with never ending generates tx fees would not be needed to compensate miners.

Anything wrong with keeping tx fees as a spam deterrent? With higher inflation, mining profitability may remain marginal at best.

Like most of your other suggestions.

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March 15, 2013, 05:33:12 PM
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My ideal altcoins are an exact clone of Bitcoin, with a new genesis block, with a new chain/coin started every time Bitcoin halves.

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March 15, 2013, 06:24:55 PM
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And all merged-mined! You're on to a winner there!

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March 16, 2013, 02:54:03 AM
Last edit: March 16, 2013, 07:47:07 AM by beeblebrox
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My improved alt-coin would atleast:
- do useful work instead of plain hashes, where all miners who participate get rewarded in proportion to the work they do
- promote off-chain transactions
- include a dead coin sweep
- merge mining and direct support for a domain name system
- promote an electrum client/server model as the perferred way for the general public who have to make transaction in the block chain (ie, those people that insist that a transaction is on-chain for some reason such as proof of an event that can't be achieved off-chain).  Most nodes on the network would be either miners, electrum-like servers or other servers which provide block-chain intrinsic services such as a DNS, ie: running full-nodes is a specialised activity that a normal user doesn't do.
- distribute new coins to a wider band of the public than just the miners (eg: make charitable donations).  Obviously this one would be very contentious and would most likely be open for abuse- probably too hard to do in a p2p decentralised way (I've some ideas how to do it, but they're not robust enough).

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March 16, 2013, 03:01:18 AM
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Although hardly possible to implement, the perfect coin would have reward diminishing as your hash rate increase.  So, let's say you:

- Mine 100Mhash/s, you get 1 coin in a given amount of time.
- Mine 200Mhash/s, you get 2 coin in that same amount of time.
- Mine 400Mhash/s, you get 3 coin in that same amount of time
- Mine 800Mhash/s, you get 4 coin in that same amount of time
- Mine 1600Mhash/s, you get 5 coin in that same amount of time

So, you see that someone with 1024 times your power will get more than you, but only 10 times more.  So you would get a chance with either a CPU or an ASIC.

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March 16, 2013, 03:14:09 AM
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when you figure out the perfect alt coin please let us know so we can add it to our casino.

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March 16, 2013, 05:01:45 AM
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the perfect coin should also (in my opinion) don't let you mine more than others
because with bitcoin a rich guy can buy lot of hardware to mine, but a poor one can't.

So basically i would say to limit the hashrate of each ip, this way everybody have the same possibilities
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March 16, 2013, 05:03:55 AM
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Devcoin, the perfect alt coin. No "dust".

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