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July 08, 2016, 06:46:07 PM
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Can't you understand OP. You have the client seed, and they have server seed. They cant possibly rig the results.

Ummm... Yes you can. Do you know what happens with the client seed and server seed before getting your result ? You don't know what the program that they are running does inbetween. So yes the seeds are fair but they are merely variables. What is done with them is what matters.

 
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July 08, 2016, 08:26:40 PM
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This is serious accusations and I expect to see some serious proofs. Story like story, everyone can come up with something.
If this thing happened more then once, let's try to film it or to make some video of that. It will help a lot to us to see same thing you did, and then more people will believe.
I'm not gambling there often, its not in my list of favorite sites, but I don't think they will scam people like that.



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July 08, 2016, 08:35:39 PM
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Just because you lost, doesn't mean its fake. You have zero proof of this and your just angry that you lost. If actually have sufficient proof, we would listen to you, but you don't. Your just ranting about loosing. Next time don't waste everyone's time.
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July 08, 2016, 09:11:11 PM
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Well actually I have played their slots about 4 months ago and won some decent amount of money back then. Still I have quit slots since some time but what I want to say Betking is paying, and you have only hit an extreme bad luck (rare case but it happens). When you keep playing games of chances like dice be prepared for the worse, its a chance game , nothing you can do about it. Also betking paid me when I placed a few sports bets there about 2 months ago so for me its a regular site like many others.
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July 08, 2016, 09:37:49 PM
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It's always commendable that users voice out their problems in their forum but this one in particular seems very strange and lacking any actual proofs, hard evidence or a concrete problem (withdrawal issues for example which is very common).

I've seen plenty of these threads popping up lately, especially for well established gambling sites so I'm a little skeptic that they could be paid by direct competition or have other hidden motives.
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July 08, 2016, 10:51:16 PM
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Betking used to be the best site . not best because I was winning , but bet because of how fair the rolls appeared.
Presently, no one is playing , so once you go in , deposit your money and start playing , they come at u with reds as if u raped his m*m.
Use ur common sense, you go to a site with no one rolling , it means you are directly gambling with the owner. What do u expect?
Expect series of reds, dosnt matter your percentage. Its easy for him or his bot to monitor your pattern and this will result to u loosing fast than how u lost before.
I know the rigging will be fixed once he sees this post and site may comeback to normal.
Don't be decieved by the verify stuff. I will keep testing the site to know when its normal. But its best for your to AVOID THAT SITE FOR NOW.
Betking is a really good site but only when you play big.
There are almost no players,only big whales playing really big,dont even bother about investing in it.
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July 08, 2016, 11:01:21 PM
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I tried them once along time ago and was looking for a new bitcoin casino too go to.
Thanks for the heads up on this as I was about to revisit that site.
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July 08, 2016, 11:05:40 PM
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Can't you understand OP. You have the client seed, and they have server seed. They cant possibly rig the results.

Ummm... Yes you can. Do you know what happens with the client seed and server seed before getting your result ? You don't know what the program that they are running does inbetween. So yes the seeds are fair but they are merely variables. What is done with them is what matters.
So they would be able to rig it even if you were to change your client seed every single bet? Absolutely not.

Here's the process.
https://betking.io/help/provablyfair

You can verify it manually too.

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July 09, 2016, 05:27:41 PM
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I tried them once along time ago and was looking for a new bitcoin casino too go to.
Thanks for the heads up on this as I was about to revisit that site.

I cant believe that there are people who take in whatever they see. It is very obvious that the OP is getting mad for losing his bet and so he is accusing the site with no evidence/proof at all. If you think carefully, a casino has been running for years and there are players who bets 100 over btc in them, why would they go and cheat a small player instead to ruin their rep and lose out on the big players?
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I tried them once along time ago and was looking for a new bitcoin casino too go to.
Thanks for the heads up on this as I was about to revisit that site.

I cant believe that there are people who take in whatever they see. It is very obvious that the OP is getting mad for losing his bet and so he is accusing the site with no evidence/proof at all. If you think carefully, a casino has been running for years and there are players who bets 100 over btc in them, why would they go and cheat a small player instead to ruin their rep and lose out on the big players?
Maybe they have make enough and ready to run.
Could be for many of reasons.  Undecided
Who really knows why only they would.
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I tried them once along time ago and was looking for a new bitcoin casino too go to.
Thanks for the heads up on this as I was about to revisit that site.

I cant believe that there are people who take in whatever they see. It is very obvious that the OP is getting mad for losing his bet and so he is accusing the site with no evidence/proof at all. If you think carefully, a casino has been running for years and there are players who bets 100 over btc in them, why would they go and cheat a small player instead to ruin their rep and lose out on the big players?
Maybe they have make enough and ready to run.
Could be for many of reasons.  Undecided
Who really knows why only they would.

The problem is that you decide not to visit one of the most reputable and most successful gambling site with one of the longest history and one of the most popular site just base on a guy who accused the site with no evidence at all.

And base on what you have said, then i suggest you dont ever visit any online casino.
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July 09, 2016, 05:51:30 PM
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I think its your fault if you are looking for a profit while you are gamble in betking and i think many people are still playing in betking.
Maybe you lose a lot thats why you are acting like that think first gamble made only to give entertainment not for making a profit if you are really lose a lot just regret not to blame the owner..  or try to check and verified your bet if you experience of fraud or not..

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July 09, 2016, 07:34:48 PM
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I never had any kind of issue on Betking how many times I played there. The issue of not being fair appear when someone goes to play with idea of winning for sure and results appears different. Gambling is not milky way to just make deposit and this easy make money. These well known sites have industry standard provably fair system implemented so every played bet can be verified. You need to stay away as each time you loose you will blame site.
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July 09, 2016, 08:44:03 PM
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Betking it's rolls always checked out for me. OP is just butthurt.
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For those of you saying am loosing, I must say no am not. Am not winning because its fair. I won because I am smart enough to tell when they are about rigging and then use it to my advantage. I am winning dosnt mean its fair. I see the same rigging happening everyday. I can possibly tell when a high roller is gonna loose. This is suppose to be a game that gives you random unpredictive numbers. But thats not the case here.
Idiots asking for proof should have asked me to just get access to the owner's laptop instead.
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For those of you saying am loosing, I must say no am not. Am not winning because its fair. I won because I am smart enough to tell when they are about rigging and then use it to my advantage. I am winning dosnt mean its fair. I see the same rigging happening everyday. I can possibly tell when a high roller is gonna loose. This is suppose to be a game that gives you random unpredictive numbers. But thats not the case here.
Idiots asking for proof should have asked me to just get access to the owner's laptop instead.
Idiots will remain idiots.
So if you think Betking is no good they might be cheating then why don't you test other dice sites and tell us what is the difference?
Betking is 2nd biggest online Dice Site right after PrimeDice - so you maybe want to check out PrimeDice and tell us what you think about their provably system.
Is it rigged as well?
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July 11, 2016, 12:32:17 AM
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For those of you saying am loosing, I must say no am not. Am not winning because its fair. I won because I am smart enough to tell when they are about rigging and then use it to my advantage. I am winning dosnt mean its fair. I see the same rigging happening everyday. I can possibly tell when a high roller is gonna loose. This is suppose to be a game that gives you random unpredictive numbers. But thats not the case here.
Idiots asking for proof should have asked me to just get access to the owner's laptop instead.
Idiots will remain idiots.

Well give us the provably fair info from here: https://betking.io/play/#provablyFair and your last rolls and we can easily check it out ourselves if the rolls are fair or not and if it was tempered with.

1. When you first visit the site we generate a random string of characters on the server used as your Server Seed. A new server seed can be generated by you before you roll.
2. A SHA-512 hash of the server seed is shown to you before you bet to prove we can't change it.
3. When you bet we get a Client Seed you supply (one is auto generated by your browser that you can change).
4. We take the server seed, client seed and the number of rolls that you have used the current server seed for in the format: n:s:n, n:c:n. Where n is the number of rolls, s the server seed and c the client seed. We take the HMACSHA512 hash of that. We convert the first 5 characters of the hash to decimal and that is your roll.
5. Sometimes the first 5 characters will not result in a number we can use and so we loop through the next 5 characters 6-10, 11-15 etc until we find one. The code for this is below.
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July 11, 2016, 12:33:06 AM
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For those of you saying am loosing, I must say no am not. Am not winning because its fair. I won because I am smart enough to tell when they are about rigging and then use it to my advantage. I am winning dosnt mean its fair. I see the same rigging happening everyday. I can possibly tell when a high roller is gonna loose. This is suppose to be a game that gives you random unpredictive numbers. But thats not the case here.
Idiots asking for proof should have asked me to just get access to the owner's laptop instead.
Idiots will remain idiots.
So if you think Betking is no good they might be cheating then why don't you test other dice sites and tell us what is the difference?
Betking is 2nd biggest online Dice Site right after PrimeDice - so you maybe want to check out PrimeDice and tell us what you think about their provably system.
Is it rigged as well?

My guess is he doesn't understand provably fair and how it works.
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Another idiot coming to emphasize on how pf works

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July 11, 2016, 01:21:44 AM
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Another idiot coming to emphasize on how pf works

"emphasize"

You need to stop. BetKing is not faking or rigging anything. Your either a troll or someone who's angry about being stupid and losing more money than they can afford. Unless you have valid proof, no one will take you serious.
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