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I don't know why would the community and the team be in conflict The community and team are in conflict because they are fighting over the same limited sum of Budget Block coins.
There is also additional conflict because if the core team controls ~everything, the project is obviously not decentralized.
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Even though I personally think it is foolish to invest in dash I do think "Dash will persist, but on life support" well for a few years anyway.
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I don't know why would the community and the team be in conflict The community and team are in conflict because they are fighting over the same limited sum of Budget Block coins.
There is also additional conflict because if the core team controls ~everything, the project is obviously not decentralized.Actually Im sort of one of a few black sheeps in Dash ATM due to my loud outspoken methods. I still hold Dash, but am a little sad these days not gunna lie.
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July 02, 2016, 11:25:42 PM |
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I got myself a Monero addy JUST to see how much you really love me.
2 threads about me isn't good enough, put your money where your mouth is! I'll be waiting!
If you're serious then come over to the Monero reddit with you're usual handle. BTW, I'm an ex-Dash user too. Apparently, TheDashGuy is too talented, honest, and hardworking to stay in the Evan's Gate cargo cult; he's simply not a good fit for Team Snake Oil's den of vipers. EG: TheDashGuy tried to get Dash onto Stack Exchange, but his fellow DashHoles couldn't be bothered to get the proposal over 10%. Just wanted to give this thread a much needed bump.
You guys are slacking Dash community, we need ALOT more of you over at stack exchange please. Stop thinking "someone else will do it", what is this, the presidential election? Granted, it took some time and effort to get Monero all the way to 100%, but Dash's sock-puppeting to 10% and quitting is completely fucking pathetic. There is no chance DuffCoin will get to 100%, because 90% of its supposed community support is actually+demonstrably useless, ignorant, and/or fake. Dash is a laughingstock and being openly mocked in its own Area51: http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/23498/where-do-all-these-followers-of-the-proposal-dash-come-fromProposal: Dash
I have noticed that this proposal gained 37 followers in only 2 days after it was proposed. However, when one looks at the list of followers, almost all of them are new users which registered just before they followed the proposal and have not contributed in any other way to the Stackexchange network.
This is a highly unusual pattern, so I believe that the moderators should investigate if these are maybe sock puppet accounts made to fake interest in this proposal.
I suspect that we see another case here of yet another cryptocurrency going through a pump-and-dump scheme where the creator pre-mines some coins, generates hype around it, sells their coins when they get value and then forgets about it. #rekt
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Not going in the anonymity claims but as far I read its bogus.
Their claims of anonymity aren't "bogus", per se, its more that there is no way to validate their claims. Their 'privacy' system is basically a bolted on tumbler system that allocates part of the block reward to anyone who runs a tumbler. Unfortunately, the people tumbling your coins for you can keep logs, and there is no way of cryptographically/mathematically proving that logs were not kept. This is exacerbated by a high likelihood that an individual (or small group of individuals) collectively control a massive percentage of Dash, which, if that is the case, make the privacy benefit near nil in a large percentage of cases, should those individuals choose / be coerced into keeping logs. I'll stick with my privacy coin that uses actual cryptography, and gives mathematical proofs as opposed to selling me snakeoil, thanks.
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Not going in the anonymity claims but as far I read its bogus.
Their claims of anonymity aren't "bogus", per se, its more that there is no way to validate their claims. Their 'privacy' system is basically a bolted on tumbler system that allocates part of the block reward to anyone who runs a tumbler. Unfortunately, the people tumbling your coins for you can keep logs, and there is no way of cryptographically/mathematically proving that logs were not kept. This is exacerbated by a high likelihood that an individual (or small group of individuals) collectively control a massive percentage of Dash, which, if that is the case, make the privacy benefit near nil in a large percentage of cases, should those individuals choose / be coerced into keeping logs. I'll stick with my privacy coin that uses actual cryptography, and gives mathematical proofs as opposed to selling me snakeoil, thanks. Nor from my recollection has there been any reputable independent 3rd party peer review of the claimed privacy and other features.
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We just saw 8k of Dash market dumped and 35k of Monero market bought within a couple of hours of each other. Has Dashxit 2016 begun? The thing about the masternode scheme is that it pays to be the first to panic, which incites further panic and exacerbates the problem.
It's not so much the reward for being first, as it is the penalty for not being first. In the traditional theater metaphor, you end up dying in a fire if you don't move quickly and quietly towards an exit as soon as you smell smoke. Dash order books are very thin vs the number of Masternodes that may be liquidated/hacked/seized/etc. Only need 2% of the 4000 total to get dumped and it's Game Over, Man. The whale intentionally propping the price up at 0.01 looks like he's almost exhausted... Anybody else getting a whiff of #DashNation burning?
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We just saw 8k of Dash market dumped and 35k of Monero market bought within a couple of hours of each other. Has Dashxit 2016 begun? The thing about the masternode scheme is that it pays to be the first to panic, which incites further panic and exacerbates the problem.
It's not so much the reward for being first, as it is the penalty for not being first. In the traditional theater metaphor, you end up dying in a fire if you don't move quickly and quietly towards an exit as soon as you smell smoke. Dash order books are very thin vs the number of Masternodes that may be liquidated/hacked/seized/etc. Only need 2% of the 4000 total to get dumped and it's Game Over, Man. The whale intentionally propping the price up at 0.01 looks like he's almost exhausted... Anybody else getting a whiff of #DashNation burning? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F66.media.tumblr.com%2F1b828434dae9eeca52080576870ff4b9%2Ftumblr_inline_nf8ucvxIsH1rp8xbw.png&t=665&c=XnIikpjb_E31Tg)
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Keep deleting my posts so that only Troll posts are in here....good one OP, clearly a targetted FUD campaign
Dash is stronger than ever.....
Lamassu ATM integration almost complete, android wallet update with instantSend support, 12.1 evolution is now in testnet and scheduled for mid-july release, Trezor Masternode hardware wallet integration almost complete, Major business integration press release imminent, d10e conference Evan will be speaking with the Dash vending machine!........thats only the tip of the iceburg as I CBF typing the rest, go find the monthly update for a good read.
Yeah sure its dying....LOL - troll harder.....
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Keep deleting my posts so that only Troll posts are in here....good one OP, clearly a targetted FUD campaign
Dash is stronger than ever.....
Lamassu ATM integration almost complete, android wallet update with instantSend support, 12.1 evolution is now in testnet and scheduled for mid-july release, Trezor Masternode hardware wallet integration almost complete, Major business integration press release imminent, d10e conference Evan will be speaking with the Dash vending machine!........thats only the tip of the iceburg as I CBF typing the rest, go find the monthly update for a good read.
Yeah sure its dying....LOL - troll harder.....
Sorry... Can you repeat that for those that didn't catch it the first three times?
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July 03, 2016, 06:04:18 AM |
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Keep deleting my posts so that only Troll posts are in here....good one OP, clearly a targetted FUD campaign
Dash is stronger than ever.....
Lamassu ATM integration almost complete, android wallet update with instantSend support, 12.1 evolution is now in testnet and scheduled for mid-july release, Trezor Masternode hardware wallet integration almost complete, Major business integration press release imminent, d10e conference Evan will be speaking with the Dash vending machine!........thats only the tip of the iceburg as I CBF typing the rest, go find the monthly update for a good read.
Yeah sure its dying....LOL - troll harder.....
Sorry... Can you repeat that for those that didn't catch it the first three times? Making another post so that the obnoxious text is off the screen
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giant butthurt-ness
I guess since Dash is doing so well, that would explain the poll results? ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif)
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Such quality contributions so far. what can you say about BitcoinShitsprexx.. total fucking moron. Then there`s the resident imbecile toknormal who has such a limited understanding i have trouble believing its even a real person
You just have to feel bad for the Dash supporters bagholders. maybe one day they`ll grow up, but probably not
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thanks for spreading the word about Dash Nation, i once held a poll and it had this surprising outcome that all publicity is good publicity....
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Dash reminds me of scientology which also gets a lot of publicity.. good job you disillusioned shitcoiners.. aim high ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Dash will fail and the project will end (52.7%) Digital democracy has spoken. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Unfortunately, the BU guys were so busy teaching Mandy about the implications of Sybil attacks for Masternodes, they couldn't get into the issues with Dash's copycat "DAO" project. Oh look, another defector has joined TheDashGuy and Camosoul. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4r2oq9/am_done_with_dash_seriously/Welcome aboard fxoscentral! "They voted with their feet." - Vladimir Lenin
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Dash will fail and the project will end (52.7%) Digital democracy has spoken. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Unfortunately, the BU guys were so busy teaching Mandy about the implications of Sybil attacks for Masternodes, they couldn't get into the issues with Dash's copycat "DAO" project. Oh look, another defector has joined TheDashGuy and Camosoul. https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/4r2oq9/am_done_with_dash_seriously/Welcome aboard fxoscentral! "They voted with their feet." - Vladimir Lenin You are welcome. ;] I have a big write-ip prepared for tomorrow as well, you guys are going to ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! It's going to be all about Monero and Dash and it's getting its very own thread here and everything! Just gotta polish it up, finish adding some images, its going to be killer bro! 43fn9DhL2eoCzuLz6EUwNoGD7KDbWFEwhAPyMCGJ6wxDZd7ULVodh1fKKiAMyzKLxoZSWMwPwz28yWf Str83dWf3HteRq9p Loving these $1-2 tiparoos btw guys! You are so nice! also go checkout my cool intro on steemit! That place is awesome! Who cares about the coin, decentralized social media is a wonderful idea! https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@thedashguy/thedashguy-is-on-steemit-aka-the-new-reddit-aka-decentralized-social-media-aka-hell-yea-finally
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