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October 25, 2016, 11:21:47 PM
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And 1 major point i forgot to mention..New Zealand wont just let any tom dick and harry in..
If your not qualified in anything you wont be able to enter..Criminal record wont be able to work there..

So i only ask for the same system here..Who is coming here and what do they do..

I REST MY CASE..So when you go to new zealand is it easy as here to get in?...

ANSWER NO..Controlled immigration..So are NEW ZEALAND raciest?..

So all countries who want controlled immigration are now raciest..
So why do they have controlled immigration?..it's not good for your country?..
Now you think they just let anyone in if it's so good for countries?..

Stop talking bull IMMIGRANT Wink..

Also when 27 countries try to agree on trade it will be very hard to do..
What if the country that wants to trade sells the same stuff as 1 of the 27 members?..
So no trade agreement will be accomplished..Going to be hard to trade with all 27 countries having to agree..If 1 says no the rest fall..

Now if i want to sell apples and i am from Canada..What if it's france main money maker they will not agree to trade..Means more apples cutting them out..

And that's just 1 product..This is why it takes years and years to trade..
Glad we are out we can trade without 27 more countries saying we cannot..
Only takes 1 country to disagree and the trade deal is over..

Now we have got rid of that situation and can trade with who we like on our terms and there terms Not 27 countries terms..



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John Cleese London No Longer English - YouTube
Video for john cleese on immigration▶ 0:41
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJheODYpuEI
4 Dec 2011 - Uploaded by stupidsweden
John Cleese London No Longer English ..... that London felt like a different country to the rest of England ...

THAT WAS 5 YEARS AGO..Now it's not BRITISH NO MORE..It's London ISLAM ready to be turned to a shit hole..
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I watch can't pay take it away and even they say they have seen nothing like in all their born days..Even they said the country is way over run..They evict people from homes and they say it's gone out of control..

Let us all bow to your reality tv show insights.  Channel 5 is renowned for it's informative and reasoned analysis of macroeconomics.  Perhaps next you could enlighten us with the erudition you've gleaned regarding societal behaviour from watching Big Brother.   Roll Eyes


So all countries who want controlled immigration are now raciest..

No, just you.  Even if we had the strictest border control in the world, you'd still be complaining.


You seem to think all these immigrants are making Britain money  Cheesy  Cheesy ...
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Immigrants don't do jack shit for the economy..

I'm not suggesting that every single last migrant is a net contributor, but overall, the impact seems to be positive.  I suspect you'll be waiting a while for Channel 5 to let you know that, though.


I tell you why i am pissed because you immigrants don't see nothing wrong..

It's my country and i want it back..YES MY COUNTRY Wink..

Anyone with eyes can see that nazis marching down the street is wrong.  I want my country back where shit like that doesn't happen.  Remember, you're reading from the same hymn sheet as these people vermin.  How long before you join in to march with one of these sick little parades?

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October 26, 2016, 12:53:10 AM
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lets flip peoples minds about the brexit debates.

firstly muslims.
many people say they dislike muslims because they force their women to wear extra clothes, to be shunned out of the family/country if they dont...
so our country wants to.. um.. TELL and FORCE women to take off their clothes or be shunned out of the country..
sounds familiar.
how about let anyone wear whatever they like.. that includes burkers, guy fawkes masks, hoodies, a kilt, mankini, liverpool shirt and facepaint or even drag.

next the drop of the pound vs dollar
many scream bad.. but its not.
firstly
say 6 months ago you had a product that was £100. and you wanted to sell it to america(was $160).

now its £100 ~ $120. meaning they get a discount and would happily buy more produce from us.
EG imagine every 6 months they invested $16,000 (100 products)
this time their $16000 gets them (133 items) and because we sold 33 extra we get £13,333 instead of £10k
thus increasing how much we produce and export out while still getting £100 a product..

we can even if not wanting to treat it as discounted we could sell it for £134 export which would give it the same $160.. america wont notice the difference on the dollar side but on the UK side get over 30% more profit. selling 100 items at £133, instead of 133 items at £100.. win win either way

secondly
we have been complaining that UK industry has been failing due to produce being cheaper via imports.. well now imports are more expensive so we have an opportunity to regrow our own industry and export goods. which is a positive.
yes getting an Ikea desk from europe will cost more. but a locally produced table becomes cheaper.

now lets move onto the EU/single market.
remember folds. the EU is just one market. there are other markets too. after all we get products from america, and asia so strangely we are not american or asian but are able to be part of those markets. so relax we will still be part of world trade markets.
the flipflop about EU single markets is just chest thumping. by first saying its impossible to come to an agreement (secretly already agreed) just so politicians can have nice big expense accounts and vacations and in a year take all the glory of being the special egg that hatched the golden goose.. even though being part of the single market has not been a problem from day one

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October 26, 2016, 01:00:30 AM
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I watch can't pay take it away and even they say they have seen nothing like in all their born days..Even they said the country is way over run..They evict people from homes and they say it's gone out of control..

Let us all bow to your reality tv show insights.  Channel 5 is renowned for it's informative and reasoned analysis of macroeconomics.  Perhaps next you could enlighten us with the erudition you've gleaned regarding societal behaviour from watching Big Brother.   Roll Eyes


So all countries who want controlled immigration are now raciest..

No, just you.  Even if we had the strictest border control in the world, you'd still be complaining.


You seem to think all these immigrants are making Britain money  Cheesy  Cheesy ...
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Immigrants don't do jack shit for the economy..

I'm not suggesting that every single last migrant is a net contributor, but overall, the impact seems to be positive.  I suspect you'll be waiting a while for Channel 5 to let you know that, though.
When i was 6 years old i sat next to an Indian boy..I ended up giong the same high school
we both in the same football team athletics team and he was a great friend..
he become a doctor ..And his family own a very well known chain store..He built it from a market stall..Amazing people..
And also i was darker skinned than most kids from my area and the used to call me a paki
ji tarzans little boy mate Cheesy..
My great gran father filipino on mothers side of the family so that's why i must have darker skin
because some of the kids in the 1970s were snow white sick looking Cheesy Cheesy..

So i know what it's like to get called a paki even though i am not 1..But it's funny my brother if you never knew him you think he was Cheesy Cheesy..

I swear you think i am raciest i hate ISLAM the religion..I wish it was gone..
And yes if all the other religion would go that would be fine with me..

SO don't tell me about racialism  Wink Wink..When you hang around on the street the kids will call you all sorts of names even a gozzy eye you will get it..

I want a New Zealand system i don't care where you come from BUT i want to know who you are and what do you do Wink Wink..

But i will tell you one thing ISLAM is making everyone pissed in the west..
No ISLAM we will all get on fine Wink..
And see Christians like the ones in America who preach hate in the street they are dumb shits..
And if any violence was shown they should be threw in jail..
And if from another country they should be deported..

Yes i am pointing ISLAM out 100%..But religion is not a race Wink Wink..It's a belief..A crazy one Wink..
Now if you disagree and your from the uk this is why we have a problem..

Only an immigrant will say let them all in Wink Wink..
They could have aids ebola zika mass murderers..
One time they found a black kid chopped up to bits in the Thames..They put it down to sacrifice to the voodoo gods..True story..
Now if only we knew who was coming in that poor black boy still be alive..

Bye Immigrant Cheesy Cheesy..Nigel farage his parents are immigrants..
Look at who is trying to be ukip leader..Raheem Kassam.Is he a white British?..

Stop making yourself look foolish.. Wink..But have a nice day if your here your here just no more it's getting out of control..You will come back and say it's not..
And i will say only an immigrant will say this or if your RICH nothing to compete with?
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October 26, 2016, 01:24:43 AM
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the flipflop about EU single markets is just chest thumping. by first saying its impossible to come to an agreement..Your wrong Canada been at it for 7 years

Belgium given EU ultimatum to secure Canada trade deal, but Wallonia defiant
A trade deal between the EU and Canada is on the brink of collapse because a Belgian region with a population of just 3.6 million opposes it. An emotional Canadian Trade Minister Chrystia Freeland left the talks in Brussels, saying the EU was "not capable" of signing a trade deal..

Now just think if Belgium are being forced by the EU it sure does look like they want 1 big super state...

No conspiracies on trade it's not good that 27 countries all have to agree..
So for you to think it's all wink wink think again..Plenty of problems and always will be some countries don't even want to be in the EU just the greedy leaders do..


But other than that i agree on everything you said Wink..
And i agree with everything jacob rees mogg says Grin..

And goodnight to you sir..And may you live long and prosper Grin..
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October 26, 2016, 01:43:24 AM
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I say my country because my family give there lives for this country to be free..
You know nothing about our history because your an immigrant Wink..

And if you only knew what we suffered under these land lord mayors rich people..
We fought in war for our country..
We fought in war against the kings for our freedom..
We fought our government for our rights in work..
Women threw them selves in front of horse for there freedom..

YOU BET YOUR FUCKING ARSE IT'S MY COUNTRY..
Go try doing it for your own countries instead of running ..Fucking shit bags..

And as for HITLER you Fucking muslims were on his side..Cheeky chappies  Wink Wink..

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You seem to think all these immigrants are making Britain money ..
Immigrants don't do jack shit for the economy..

I'm not suggesting that every single last migrant is a net contributor, but overall, the impact seems to be positive.  I suspect you'll be waiting a while for Channel 5 to let you know that, though.

How many immigrants have free rent free school free hospital claim benefits like extra money if on low income..
And the amount we know nothing of goes into the millions..

A immigrant in jail cost more a year than i make doing my living 40k a year for jail..
39k i make..

Britain's prisons see huge rise in EU convicts at £150million cost to taxpayer per year
BRITAIN is becoming the EU's prison island as our jails fill  ... “The problem is too many people are coming here who end up in jail..

Well that's the tax off Scotland wasted on jailed immigrants..
And will rise and rise and rise..You not thinking of the overall picture..

the rich is so few the poor are so many..DER if your poor your more likely to steal..
meaning jail..40k it cost a year ..

lets do the MATH on jailed immigrants..

Gross Income £30,000.00 ..you will pay about 6500 pounds tax per year..
6500 toward a 40k jailed immigrant..
So you need 6 immigrants on 30k a year to pay for one immigrant prisoner..

Now how many factory worker immigrants are on 30k a year..
There are currently 5,885 highly dangerous criminals behind bars in the eight Category A prisons in the UK, of which 1,229 follow the Islamic faith.

7200 immigrants on 30k a year needed to pay 1229 muslims for life

That is bigger than 2 car plants of immigrants paying tax for no reason but to jail them..
Did i benefit from it no. wasted money but 7200 more people taking my homes and schools for our people..And for what to jail them..

7200 immigrants on 30k a year are wasted because we see no benefits it goes on jail..

And that is just muslims jailed what about other countries like Poland loads more of them locked up..

The UK immigration detention estate is one of the largest in Europe. From 2009 until the end of 2015, between 2,500 and 3,500 migrants have been in detention at any given time.

Between 15k to 20k workers on 30k a year are needed to pay the jailed immigrants..

20 THOUSAND IMMIGRANTS ON 30K A YEAR to pay for just your immigrants in jail..

So 20 thousand people are taking up hospitals schools doctors dentists homes
For no reason but to pay for there jailed IMMIGRANTS..

I am fucking livid NOW I DONE THE MATH..And it's getting worse..

So just thinks chaps if one is jailed 6 immigrants on 30k a year will be a waste of money because we wont see no benefits off 6 30k a year tax payers ..It's wasted on another jailed immigrant..

But how many immigrants are on 30k a year..

That's just 1 of many problems immigrants will refuse to admit..

20 thousand immigrants on 30k wasted because of the jailed ones..

So 20 thousand are here for no reason they do not contribute..
If we had controlled immigration..Who are they and what do they do..
20 thousand immigrants taxes would help our NHS..
But it's not it's helping your jailed immigrants plus we had to suffer the crime they done on us..

I rest my case..Next case Wink..

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October 26, 2016, 03:09:52 AM
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as a brit myself (hundreds of years ancestry) it needs to be noted that things have been misrepresented.
i have an open mind so please dont think of this as taking sides. think of this as taking an overview of both sides and putting it into reality

during and after the first world war the UK invaded the middle east and started a long history of anger by messing with the ottoman empire. this started the middle easts hatred of the west. it was not the other way round. the middle east did not strike us first.
for a century the west has been trying to invade and control natural resources of the middle east. and east have finally got peed off with the wests endless invading under the guise of defense.
even now more deaths happen due to the west killing eastern innocent civilians compared to the western death rate. and their descendants, offspring and family ended up holding a grudge.

imagine it like smashing someone's car in a few streets away, purely because next month you plan to sue the guy for attacking you and take all his possessions. but you know you have to provoke him first. which is why you give it a month of constant provocation.(month=century)

then when he finally attacks, you tell your neighbours he is after you and he is shouting "for gods sake stop" in an accent which you dont understand and loosely translate it to be about something religious.. so you tell your neighbours you want some support to go down to the other street and sort that guy out because he sounds like some religious fanatic.
a day later the guy says 'the bible says you shall not tresspass.. so stop'. but you reply, 'yep he is definitely a religious fanatic, attacking us using his religion as a reason'.
you end up taking his property and causing his death. and now his family are angry.
some of them are very angry, but you keep playing the religious card, blaming their religion for why they are attacking you to distract your own neighbours from knowing you struck first.
you even recruit some of the guys own neighbours to start conflicts within the street (al-quida) to then make it look like you want to go in and defend the street from the religious nutters

they start protecting their property. putting land mines on their street to protect what is theirs, from each other and from invaders but when you go to their street you dont see it as them defending what is theirs. you see it as an act of terrorism. even if you are the invador.
you kill a few more of them. and also hit some of the insider recruits, who no get a grudge and you rebrand these new grudge recruits ISIS

now your bombing the whole street and those innocents suffering want to get out of the street as its not their fight.they go to neighbouring streets. some are taken in and some are shown the door and told to try another street. this goes on until the only street that is left is the very street of their attacker(us brits) thinking "well they wont bomb their own street and they cannot deny asylum by pretending there is no war.. because their the ones throwing the bombs".

now media plays their part showing how these people are now at the top of our street trying to seek asylum in our street. the media has not mentioned how many streets they have tried before they just pretend the people magically teleported straight to our street and they are after our money and our jobs.

now the religious card is played again. we should not let them in because their religion tells them what to wear and how to talk. but hypocritically if they want to come in we will tell them what to wear and how to talk.

kind of funny that when we go to retire or on a club 18-30 holiday to spain, we are not demanded to wear spanish attire and to only speak spanish. we get offended and told we have freedoms to not require to follow such demands. we instead want to form an english resort/community in spain to live our lives in their country but within our "freedoms".

anyway i digressed.
imagine this however.
if we never go to the middle east. meaning we stop invading, stop bombing and just say the war is over now everyone can go home and we wont steal your oil, your country is yours. have a nice day.
imagine that.
we can deport all the asylum seekers and then start making new jobs of repairing their country. and while all the builders go to build houses in the middle east, we also then have lots of vacancies locally.

or we just keep bombing a country because they quote their bible now and again while we steal their oil and blame it all on their bible

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as a brit myself (hundreds of years ancestry) it needs to be noted that things have been misrepresented.
i have an open mind so please dont think of this as taking sides. think of this as taking an overview of both sides and putting it into reality

during and after the first world war the UK invaded the middle east and started a long history of anger by messing with the ottoman empire. this started the middle easts hatred of the west. it was not the other way round. the middle east did not strike us first.
for a century the west has been trying to invade and control natural resources of the middle east. and east have finally got peed off with the wests endless invading under the guise of defense.
even now more deaths happen due to the west killing eastern innocent civilians compared to the western death rate. and their descendants, offspring and family ended up holding a grudge.

imagine it like smashing someone's car in a few streets away, purely because next month you plan to sue the guy for attacking you and take all his possessions. but you know you have to provoke him first. which is why you give it a month of constant provocation.(month=century)

then when he finally attacks, you tell your neighbours he is after you and he is shouting "for gods sake stop" in an accent which you dont understand and loosely translate it to be about something religious.. so you tell your neighbours you want some support to go down to the other street and sort that guy out because he sounds like some religious fanatic.
a day later the guy says 'the bible says you shall not tresspass.. so stop'. but you reply, 'yep he is definitely a religious fanatic, attacking us using his religion as a reason'.
you end up taking his property and causing his death. and now his family are angry.
some of them are very angry, but you keep playing the religious card, blaming their religion for why they are attacking you to distract your own neighbours from knowing you struck first.
you even recruit some of the guys own neighbours to start conflicts within the street (al-quida) to then make it look like you want to go in and defend the street from the religious nutters

they start protecting their property. putting land mines on their street to protect what is theirs, from each other and from invaders but when you go to their street you dont see it as them defending what is theirs. you see it as an act of terrorism. even if you are the invador.
you kill a few more of them. and also hit some of the insider recruits, who no get a grudge and you rebrand these new grudge recruits ISIS

now your bombing the whole street and those innocents suffering want to get out of the street as its not their fight.they go to neighbouring streets. some are taken in and some are shown the door and told to try another street. this goes on until the only street that is left is the very street of their attacker(us brits) thinking "well they wont bomb their own street and they cannot deny asylum by pretending there is no war.. because their the ones throwing the bombs".

now media plays their part showing how these people are now at the top of our street trying to seek asylum in our street. the media has not mentioned how many streets they have tried before they just pretend the people magically teleported straight to our street and they are after our money and our jobs.

now the religious card is played again. we should not let them in because their religion tells them what to wear and how to talk. but hypocritically if they want to come in we will tell them what to wear and how to talk.

kind of funny that when we go to retire or on a club 18-30 holiday to spain, we are not demanded to wear spanish attire and to only speak spanish. we get offended and told we have freedoms to not require to follow such demands. we instead want to form an english resort/community in spain to live our lives in their country but within our "freedoms".

anyway i digressed.
imagine this however.
if we never go to the middle east. meaning we stop invading, stop bombing and just say the war is over now everyone can go home and we wont steal your oil, your country is yours. have a nice day.
imagine that.
we can deport all the asylum seekers and then start making new jobs of repairing their country. and while all the builders go to build houses in the middle east, we also then have lots of vacancies locally.

or we just keep bombing a country because they quote their bible now and again while we steal their oil and blame it all on their bible
NO BLAME SAUDI ARABIA for paying our politicians so they can sell there oil to us and keep the rest out of the market?..


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October 26, 2016, 03:19:07 AM
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lastly here is some data about the NHS

jobseekers is a treasury budget of £5billion a year.
NHS is a budget of £136billion..
nhs used to get ~£180billion NHS..
do the maths and you will see that jobseekers does not affect the NHS..
unemployment = just £2.7bill...

want to know where the £40+bill nhs loss of money went to
Bank debt interest  £44.9billion
http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/year_budget_2016UKbn_16bc1n_4090#usgs302


want to know why we are not getting the £350mill "cashback" from exiting the EU to go towards the NHS.
corporation tax discount from 20% to 10% which the cashback will cover the drop in tax..

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October 26, 2016, 03:20:25 AM
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NO BLAME SAUDI ARABIA for paying our politicians so they can sell there oil to us and keep the rest out of the market?..

the saudi's were involved in the 'street fights' yes. but that doesnt mean we are blameless

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October 26, 2016, 03:22:21 AM
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Also how much compensation is claimed after these immigrants do there crimes?..
More immigrants tax wasted..

It's all about homes a place to live for the poor they got no money..
So a roof over your head is the next best thing and if you have uncontrolled immigration the homes get filled and the poor suffer even more..

It's not about money with the poor..homes hospital doctor..The most important things needed for the poor..What else have they got..

Now i am always saying you should look after our own before anyone else Wink Wink..
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October 26, 2016, 03:34:38 AM
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Also how much compensation is claimed after these immigrants do there crimes?..
More immigrants tax wasted..

It's all about homes a place to live for the poor they got no money..
So a roof over your head is the next best thing and if you have uncontrolled immigration the homes get filled and the poor suffer even more..

It's not about money with the poor..homes hospital doctor..The most important things needed for the poor..What else have they got..

Now i am always saying you should look after our own before anyone else Wink Wink..

we should look after our own. the issue is that council houses are build in 1950's and we have not been using the rent to build more since.
imagine it for every house built in 1950's the could have built 2 more homes today using 60 years of rent. but councils 'stock' of homes has not doubled or tripped since the 1950's.

instead councillors claimed expenses. wrote their spouse on as a secretary or assistant to get a double income into the household. got a company car. etc..

our problem is that when we "look after our own" we are only looking after our own rich guys in power..

now back to the international stuff.. the war on drugs, we need to invade countries for opium (hense the red poppy we wear to remember our lost soldiers) this drug is used for medications like painkillers
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2667253/Not-Afghanistan-Hampshire-How-opium-poppies-grown-UK-make-morphine-NHS.html
se the fake narrative about how Afghan is drug lord heroine country..
yet we pretend we are stopping street dealers and stopping drug cartels.. as a fake moral reason to invade countries growing poppies
this has been going on for a century. and our soldiers are remembered due to poppies.. its literally slapping you in the face what soldiers were fighting for in the first world war.. before "drug cartels and street dealers" were even a local thing.

we then need oil for plastics and car fuel..
wars are not about defending a distant country.. its about grabbing their resources..

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October 26, 2016, 03:48:04 AM
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No. We need more unity in the UK, not less. Scotland leaving would be.

England leaving serves really no point - we'd pretty much be the same outside the UK then we'd be outside it given we form the maority of it. It more so effects Scotland, Wales & NI but any negatives e.g. loss of democracy are balanced by getting powers for loads of things (e.g. scotland still having free uni fees).
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October 26, 2016, 03:55:48 AM
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NO BLAME SAUDI ARABIA for paying our politicians so they can sell there oil to us and keep the rest out of the market?..

the saudi's were involved in the 'street fights' yes. but that doesnt mean we are blameless
So are the gun shops in the usa then?..for gang murders?

And your right we do need to just let them be Wink..
Remember when they bomb somewhere we don't make the money off the weapon the politician son friend does..

Mark Thatcher arrested over alleged African coup plot - World Socialist ...
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2004/08/that-a27.html
27 Aug 2004 - This time the Thatcher in question is Margaret Thatcher's son, Mark, who has been ... fortune in excess of £60 million as a result of various shady deals. ... after his mother signed the al-Yamamah arms deal with Saudi Arabia.

remember i don't like politicians they are all robbing scum bags..not all but most are Wink..

Still my country is over run though..
Schools over run hospital over run waiting times never been 2 weeks for an appointment..
I have a friend she is a nurse she said loads and loads are coming in everyday..
over populated..
Also have a friend who is a dentist and he said the amount that as signed to his practice is unreal..
We get lied to all the time..But i know to much immigration is no good..
OK if every immigrant was minted all would be good but as you know in life the rich are the few
the poor are the many..
It's all one big FUCK UP..And the people who planned it KNOW IT but they can always live in a nice place in the world the many poor cannot..

Well 17 million people are unhappy with immigration so something needs to be done..
Because if not it will get well worse for racialism by far..

50 homes up for grabs..
45 English move in 5 muslims move in..The 5 muslims will integrate with the 45 English
Now if it was 25 muslims and 25 english they be fucking murder trust me..
Now it be which ones will move first.. The English because they move to NEW ZEALAND Grin..

Go and look at Leeds Yorkshire Bradford Birmingham  London all over run by immigrants..

Is stacey dooley a liar ..Plus you can see the shock on her face..

Non muslims destined to go to hell, British Police Go To Hell Muslim ...
Video for stacey dooley on muslims in leeds▶ 4:36
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2nlIfn8tNA

Proof is in the pudding  Grin Grin..
Britain is finished if we let this shit spread..

Now i have said all i need to say..Good luck planet we are going to need it  Wink..
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October 26, 2016, 03:57:22 AM
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Also how much compensation is claimed after these immigrants do there crimes?..
More immigrants tax wasted..

It's all about homes a place to live for the poor they got no money..
So a roof over your head is the next best thing and if you have uncontrolled immigration the homes get filled and the poor suffer even more..

It's not about money with the poor..homes hospital doctor..The most important things needed for the poor..What else have they got..

Now i am always saying you should look after our own before anyone else Wink Wink..

we should look after our own. the issue is that council houses are build in 1950's and we have not been using the rent to build more since.
imagine it for every house built in 1950's the could have built 2 more homes today using 60 years of rent. but councils 'stock' of homes has not doubled or tripped since the 1950's.

instead councillors claimed expenses. wrote their spouse on as a secretary or assistant to get a double income into the household. got a company car. etc..

our problem is that when we "look after our own" we are only looking after our own rich guys in power..

now back to the international stuff.. the war on drugs, we need to invade countries for opium (hense the red poppy we wear to remember our lost soldiers) this drug is used for medications like painkillers
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2667253/Not-Afghanistan-Hampshire-How-opium-poppies-grown-UK-make-morphine-NHS.html
se the fake narrative about how Afghan is drug lord heroine country..
yet we pretend we are stopping street dealers and stopping drug cartels.. as a fake moral reason to invade countries growing poppies
this has been going on for a century. and our soldiers are remembered due to poppies.. its literally slapping you in the face what soldiers were fighting for in the first world war.. before "drug cartels and street dealers" were even a local thing.

we then need oil for plastics and car fuel..
wars are not about defending a distant country.. its about grabbing their resources..
I agree Grin plus they don't get rent off council homes most on the dole getting it for free..
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October 26, 2016, 04:42:47 AM
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now back to the international stuff.. the war on drugs, we need to invade countries for opium (hense the red poppy we wear to remember our lost soldiers) this drug is used for medications like painkillers Cheesy Cheesy..

Remove that tin foil hat Cheesy Cheesy..Joking Cheesy Cheesy.

I remember being told a story why the poppy Cheesy.
Remembrance poppy - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_poppy
The use of the poppy was inspired by the World War I poem "In Flanders Fields". Its opening lines refer to the many poppies that were the first flowers to grow in the churned-up earth of soldiers' graves in Flanders, a region of Europe that overlies a part of Belgium.

Nothing to do with drugs Cheesy Cheesy.
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October 26, 2016, 01:41:58 PM
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Still my country is over run though..
Schools over run hospital over run waiting times never been 2 weeks for an appointment..
I have a friend she is a nurse she said loads and loads are coming in everyday..
over populated..
Also have a friend who is a dentist and he said the amount that as signed to his practice is unreal..
We get lied to all the time..But i know to much immigration is no good..
OK if every immigrant was minted all would be good but as you know in life the rich are the few
the poor are the many..
It's all one big FUCK UP..And the people who planned it KNOW IT but they can always live in a nice place in the world the many poor cannot..

Well 17 million people are unhappy with immigration so something needs to be done..
Because if not it will get well worse for racialism by far..

50 homes up for grabs..
45 English move in 5 muslims move in..The 5 muslims will integrate with the 45 English
Now if it was 25 muslims and 25 english they be fucking murder trust me..
Now it be which ones will move first.. The English because they move to NEW ZEALAND Grin..

WTF
go check some actual statistics.
do you know why schools and NHS seem busier than ever..
because there are schools CLOSING and hospitals CLOSING.
http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04252/SN04252.pdf
1950: primary schools 27,700 - secondary schools 5900
2010: primary schools 21,280 - secondary schools 4070

http://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/data-and-charts/overnight-hospital-beds-england
1987: 297,000 beds
2014: 137,000 beds
this has put the true and real strain on the public services..

you have complained about 20k immigrants.. yet the maths works out as only 1 person per small town/village.
do the maths 60million people vs 20k immigrants.

=1 immigrant per 3000 population.

average family (based on stats not media) is 2 parents 2 kids.
its not 1 out of 3 but 1 out of 3000

so out of a population of lets say 3000 houses one house is occupied by an immigrant family.
yes immigrants have not been spread out equally where every village/town has 1 immigrant. and instead the councils have put them near each other for social and community reasons. so in small villages in lets say scotland, wales and cornwall may only have 1 immigrant per 20 villages. and places like london may have those other 19 immigrants. which based on the number of towns /villages across the UK soon adds up to look like that major cities look immigrant heavy..

but thats not due to there being a countrywide epidemic. but a more 'hotzone' of communities based on the councils own policies and rules to clump them together.. again a fault of councils. not the people

do you know why when you walk the streets during the day in a town of 70k you dont see 70k brits and 20 asylum seeker. but instead a dozen asylum seeker and a dozen brits.

because asylum seekers BY LAW cannot work. so they are left walking around aimlessly. but many brits are in work 9am-5pm so they are not walking the street. so it seems like there are less brits. but the fact are brits are busy in work. thus less brits are wondering aimlessly because they have things to do, to not be seen in public. thus not be in town diluting the illusion of population diversity

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October 26, 2016, 11:03:54 PM
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Still my country is over run though..
Schools over run hospital over run waiting times never been 2 weeks for an appointment..
I have a friend she is a nurse she said loads and loads are coming in everyday..
over populated..
Also have a friend who is a dentist and he said the amount that as signed to his practice is unreal..
We get lied to all the time..But i know to much immigration is no good..
OK if every immigrant was minted all would be good but as you know in life the rich are the few
the poor are the many..
It's all one big FUCK UP..And the people who planned it KNOW IT but they can always live in a nice place in the world the many poor cannot..

Well 17 million people are unhappy with immigration so something needs to be done..
Because if not it will get well worse for racialism by far..

50 homes up for grabs..
45 English move in 5 muslims move in..The 5 muslims will integrate with the 45 English
Now if it was 25 muslims and 25 english they be fucking murder trust me..
Now it be which ones will move first.. The English because they move to NEW ZEALAND Grin..

WTF
go check some actual statistics.
do you know why schools and NHS seem busier than ever..
because there are schools CLOSING and hospitals CLOSING.
http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN04252/SN04252.pdf
1950: primary schools 27,700 - secondary schools 5900
2010: primary schools 21,280 - secondary schools 4070

http://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/data-and-charts/overnight-hospital-beds-england
1987: 297,000 beds
2014: 137,000 beds
this has put the true and real strain on the public services..

you have complained about 20k immigrants.. yet the maths works out as only 1 person per small town/village.
do the maths 60million people vs 20k immigrants.

=1 immigrant per 3000 population.

average family (based on stats not media) is 2 parents 2 kids.
its not 1 out of 3 but 1 out of 3000

so out of a population of lets say 3000 houses one house is occupied by an immigrant family.
yes immigrants have not been spread out equally where every village/town has 1 immigrant. and instead the councils have put them near each other for social and community reasons. so in small villages in lets say scotland, wales and cornwall may only have 1 immigrant per 20 villages. and places like london may have those other 19 immigrants. which based on the number of towns /villages across the UK soon adds up to look like that major cities look immigrant heavy..

but thats not due to there being a countrywide epidemic. but a more 'hotzone' of communities based on the councils own policies and rules to clump them together.. again a fault of councils. not the people

do you know why when you walk the streets during the day in a town of 70k you dont see 70k brits and 20 asylum seeker. but instead a dozen asylum seeker and a dozen brits.

because asylum seekers BY LAW cannot work. so they are left walking around aimlessly. but many brits are in work 9am-5pm so they are not walking the street. so it seems like there are less brits. but the fact are brits are busy in work. thus less brits are wondering aimlessly because they have things to do, to not be seen in public. thus not be in town diluting the illusion of population diversity

point1..The 20k immigrants is just 1 of many problems..But i am saying 20k immigrants
Are needed just to sort out the jailed immigrants..1 of many problems..
So why the 60 million? even being mentioned..IT'S 1 PROBLEM OF MANY..

Now you are right that they are closing things down..So WHY INVITE MORE IN?..
If We Cannot cope with what we have?..

So WTF to you and all..
And my friends say it's people who can just about speak our lingo that as risen..

If we are closing hospitals schools does it make sense to add ,ore to a population..
Answer no..So wtf are you even talking about Wink Wink..

And the poppy as nothing to do with DRUGS..When in concerns our military..

Is you friend a nurse is your friend a dentist?..

They have said they cannot even speak our lingo most of them are with someone who can..

So stop talking through you BUTT HOLE..

Do you know what you thimk i am arguing for myself but i am not
MY LIFE WILL ALWAYS BE GOOD Grin Grin..

But i see and know what will happen if we over run our country with people..
Very few have money..Crime will rise many many fold..
People looking for homes will rise many many fold..

Now the government are not building enough to compensate for the immigrants coming in..

So stop bringing money up..POOR DON'T HAVE MONEY..And do you think the rich want to build homes for the poor Answer no..So if you add more to the population it will cause problems..

WTF don't you understand about what i am telling you FACTS no lies?..

I will read your answer but i will not reply..Because nothing to discuss because i am so right in what i say.. Wink

But have a nice day..

At the end of the day you want controlled immigration or you don't?..

I want controlled immigration i want to know who they are and what do they do..
Just like they would do if i entered there country Wink..


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