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November 09, 2016, 11:04:55 AM |
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house edge is never gone
Still, if you are able to control your bankroll well, you would be on the winning site
That is important and needed by the house so that they will able to completely support the operation of the website. And because of making the players lose, they will get profit so the favor is always with the house. And if you believe that the house always win, then why not be with the house and try to invest some of your bitcoins with them. Not much sites accepts investment on bankroll but there are reputable sites like bitvest , cryptogames , and etc . Needs huge money to get the profit from invest in bankroll when you can control yourself you will be safe on long run and get profit Very true. It just really takes some time and a huge number of capital to feel it. This is not advisable for those who are just starting, I prefer you go through some thread here about investing in gambling sites before taking that leap. Investing on the house itself would be really a good idea if you wish to have a good investment rather than playing on the site itself because as everyone claiming here house would really win on the long run and left those gamblers broke and lose up all their money. House does have the edge on beating you all the way thats why when we play gambling , we must be already aware on the risk. of course, nothing can be more profitable than investing in the bankroll of the casino. The more investment you put the more income you will generate, but when you are a gamble the more money you gamble the more money you lose, house rules and they have the edge.
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November 09, 2016, 02:24:07 PM |
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house edge is never gone
Still, if you are able to control your bankroll well, you would be on the winning site
That is important and needed by the house so that they will able to completely support the operation of the website. And because of making the players lose, they will get profit so the favor is always with the house. And if you believe that the house always win, then why not be with the house and try to invest some of your bitcoins with them. Not much sites accepts investment on bankroll but there are reputable sites like bitvest , cryptogames , and etc . Needs huge money to get the profit from invest in bankroll when you can control yourself you will be safe on long run and get profit Very true. It just really takes some time and a huge number of capital to feel it. This is not advisable for those who are just starting, I prefer you go through some thread here about investing in gambling sites before taking that leap. Investing on the house itself would be really a good idea if you wish to have a good investment rather than playing on the site itself because as everyone claiming here house would really win on the long run and left those gamblers broke and lose up all their money. House does have the edge on beating you all the way thats why when we play gambling , we must be already aware on the risk. of course, nothing can be more profitable than investing in the bankroll of the casino. The more investment you put the more income you will generate, but when you are a gamble the more money you gamble the more money you lose, house rules and they have the edge. But still investing on casino or house itself is not safe at all and you cant be sure to gain profits on monthly basis because there are some times that you wont gain nothing at all . If a certain gambling site could able to generate good profits then expect good returns too in your investments.
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electronicfactura
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November 09, 2016, 02:41:27 PM |
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House doesn't always win but overall wins more often than any individual gambler. There are still people who wins and remain with profit but fact is large majority of gamblers loose against house. I have to see this as I said house wins overall but not always if this was correct then no one was never winning.
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ikydesu
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November 09, 2016, 06:32:23 PM |
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But still investing on casino or house itself is not safe at all and you cant be sure to gain profits on monthly basis because there are some times that you wont gain nothing at all . If a certain gambling site could able to generate good profits then expect good returns too in your investments.
This is right, need to research to casino if you want to invest, trusted casino is safe to investing, but its does not rule out the possibility if the site turn into scam, the security system site should be considered too. and don't easy to believe if the house give you % more profit for your investment than other site. House doesn't always win but overall wins more often than any individual gambler. There are still people who wins and remain with profit but fact is large majority of gamblers loose against house. I have to see this as I said house wins overall but not always if this was correct then no one was never winning.
That's why build a casino is worth(if you not considering where the money come from), and their building is very pretentious. According to some article over 85% gambler have lost their game and house earn more profit.
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November 11, 2016, 04:14:56 PM |
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If you guys can't beat the house then at least join them. There are some few good sites that accept investors with their house edge. I can say I am earning decently on Betking and Crypto-Games. Soon I am considering vDice.io and see if I can get some good return on investments.
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chixka000
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November 11, 2016, 04:24:46 PM |
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House may not win 100% of the time because there is at time someone can win jackpot or super lucky on that day. However, even if you manage to win a huge amount, you will still end up coming back to bet more and eventually lose in the long run.
Well, If you would refer to that scenario then you can really say that the house does not win all the time. But the question there was before the lucky jackpot by a player did the casino already got their profit too? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If so then 100% win-win situation is real. The jackpot is money lost from gamblers, isnt money from the house is the money that the gamblers has lost that went into the jackpot, atleast i do see those jackpots like those, otherwise house would be at risk, and they arent at all. That is exactly the point, Of course, defeating the odds doesn't really mean that you defeat it but instead you got it from other gamblers that lose their bets. So in the end house does always wins and there is no point for this to argue.
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upsidedown75
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November 13, 2016, 06:55:58 PM |
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If you guys can't beat the house then at least join them. There are some few good sites that accept investors with their house edge. I can say I am earning decently on Betking and Crypto-Games. Soon I am considering vDice.io and see if I can get some good return on investments.
Yours must be a right suggestion in order to have profits. Still, a gambler will not do what he actually prefers. Joining a gambling house must be an investing way definitely not gambling. Usually gamblers do prefer take risk in entertainment way which must be definitely missing if we are looking only profits by investing into gambling bankrolls.
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Doamader
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November 13, 2016, 10:20:53 PM |
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If you guys can't beat the house then at least join them. There are some few good sites that accept investors with their house edge. I can say I am earning decently on Betking and Crypto-Games. Soon I am considering vDice.io and see if I can get some good return on investments.
Yours must be a right suggestion in order to have profits. Still, a gambler will not do what he actually prefers. Joining a gambling house must be an investing way definitely not gambling. Usually gamblers do prefer take risk in entertainment way which must be definitely missing if we are looking only profits by investing into gambling bankrolls. Sure it should be saw as investing, but we do know that sometimes you may loose a bit on the bankrolls, soo its a gamble because you cant predict the house result, even knowing the house always wins. Soo investing into bankrolls for me looks like gamble as you are putting your coins into risk.
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RealPhotoshoper
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November 13, 2016, 11:01:16 PM |
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House may not win 100% of the time because there is at time someone can win jackpot or super lucky on that day. However, even if you manage to win a huge amount, you will still end up coming back to bet more and eventually lose in the long run.
Well, If you would refer to that scenario then you can really say that the house does not win all the time. But the question there was before the lucky jackpot by a player did the casino already got their profit too? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) If so then 100% win-win situation is real. The jackpot is money lost from gamblers, isnt money from the house is the money that the gamblers has lost that went into the jackpot, atleast i do see those jackpots like those, otherwise house would be at risk, and they arent at all. That is exactly the point, Of course, defeating the odds doesn't really mean that you defeat it but instead you got it from other gamblers that lose their bets. So in the end house does always wins and there is no point for this to argue. yeaaa this is pretty obvious that most casino will always in profit. while most gambler will always ended up in losing instead to get profit as it is has been a law of gambling. people knew aleady about this but the addiction erase it all.
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error08
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November 13, 2016, 11:20:34 PM |
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You made 0.046 before you lost. If you had just done a 50/50 you would have had a better chance and you would have won 0.056. Because you lost you may as well had done a 50/50 then at least you have half a chance and you save 12 hours .....
AFAIK dice games never be on 50/50 because there is still.house edge which mean you will not have 50% chance on 2x odds, moreover OP play on that freebitco.in, what I do know that their site have higher odds so that means you eill have higher chance to lose rather than winning there Gambling maybe give you 50/50 chance to win but in Dice, hmm I don't think it goes that way. Every sites have their own script and like OP said, if they decide to screw you it's game over. No one could always win, moreover in the long run against the house, it had been created like that.
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November 14, 2016, 02:01:32 AM |
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House doesn't always win but overall wins more often than any individual gambler. There are still people who wins and remain with profit but fact is large majority of gamblers loose against house. I have to see this as I said house wins overall but not always if this was correct then no one was never winning.
As long as gambler player for a longer period on any gambling site then mostly gambling house will win at the end. People who win one or two times on vocationally surely they will come back to the site thinking that they may win again from that site and end up lose back their winnings to the site. So it is most of the time house is going to win money in gambling.
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November 14, 2016, 02:05:19 AM |
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You made 0.046 before you lost. If you had just done a 50/50 you would have had a better chance and you would have won 0.056. Because you lost you may as well had done a 50/50 then at least you have half a chance and you save 12 hours .....
AFAIK dice games never be on 50/50 because there is still.house edge which mean you will not have 50% chance on 2x odds, moreover OP play on that freebitco.in, what I do know that their site have higher odds so that means you eill have higher chance to lose rather than winning there Gambling maybe give you 50/50 chance to win but in Dice, hmm I don't think it goes that way. Every sites have their own script and like OP said, if they decide to screw you it's game over. No one could always win, moreover in the long run against the house, it had been created like that. It was never a 50/50 chance of winning as the house edge is the difference, most gamblers think that dice gives them equal chances but they failed to check on their long term chances. They will only feel it when they experience gambling and I have not known any person who are successful in dice gambling for the long run.
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November 14, 2016, 02:20:50 AM |
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You made 0.046 before you lost. If you had just done a 50/50 you would have had a better chance and you would have won 0.056. Because you lost you may as well had done a 50/50 then at least you have half a chance and you save 12 hours .....
AFAIK dice games never be on 50/50 because there is still.house edge which mean you will not have 50% chance on 2x odds, moreover OP play on that freebitco.in, what I do know that their site have higher odds so that means you eill have higher chance to lose rather than winning there Gambling maybe give you 50/50 chance to win but in Dice, hmm I don't think it goes that way. Every sites have their own script and like OP said, if they decide to screw you it's game over. No one could always win, moreover in the long run against the house, it had been created like that. It was never a 50/50 chance of winning as the house edge is the difference, most gamblers think that dice gives them equal chances but they failed to check on their long term chances. They will only feel it when they experience gambling and I have not known any person who are successful in dice gambling for the long run. if you know how to control your emotion and you have good decision making for sure you will change the game because you can make good assessment and you know when to stop when you are in a good edge and when you are really not being lucky you can avoid big loses too, try to make good research.
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November 14, 2016, 04:19:16 AM |
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Gambling maybe give you 50/50 chance to win but in Dice, hmm I don't think it goes that way. Every sites have their own script and like OP said, if they decide to screw you it's game over. No one could always win, moreover in the long run against the house, it had been created like that.
No there is no 50/50 win chance for both sides if you calculate the bet result in long term than you will see that bigger difference there it maybe like 40/60 in dice game, some players got more than 22 red when they got losing streak so that kind of losing streak give clear advantage to the house.
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November 14, 2016, 04:58:03 AM |
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You made 0.046 before you lost. If you had just done a 50/50 you would have had a better chance and you would have won 0.056. Because you lost you may as well had done a 50/50 then at least you have half a chance and you save 12 hours .....
AFAIK dice games never be on 50/50 because there is still.house edge which mean you will not have 50% chance on 2x odds, moreover OP play on that freebitco.in, what I do know that their site have higher odds so that means you eill have higher chance to lose rather than winning there Gambling maybe give you 50/50 chance to win but in Dice, hmm I don't think it goes that way. Every sites have their own script and like OP said, if they decide to screw you it's game over. No one could always win, moreover in the long run against the house, it had been created like that. if what you said is true that means their system is not "provably fair" and that also means that you can easily prove it if you look at your bets and check their hash in the provably fair formula. and be sure that if something like that was going down on what of these sites, they would have gotten caught already and were exposed because it is easily detectable and proven with easy facts.
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November 14, 2016, 05:31:52 AM |
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There is some experiment here about investing in different casino houses. Among the five 2 of them gives a negative return. An indication that the house does not win all the time. The negative RoI on this two casino houses forces the one who is conducting an investment experiment to drop the two casino sites and replaced by other Casino houses.
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November 14, 2016, 05:40:39 AM |
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There is some experiment here about investing in different casino houses. Among the five 2 of them gives a negative return. An indication that the house does not win all the time. The negative RoI on this two casino houses forces the one who is conducting an investment experiment to drop the two casino sites and replaced by other Casino houses.
I don't know, maybe it's result of bad management or lack of visitors. But in most cases "The House always wins." statement is true.
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November 14, 2016, 05:48:57 AM |
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Gambling maybe give you 50/50 chance to win but in Dice, hmm I don't think it goes that way. Every sites have their own script and like OP said, if they decide to screw you it's game over. No one could always win, moreover in the long run against the house, it had been created like that.
No there is no 50/50 win chance for both sides if you calculate the bet result in long term than you will see that bigger difference there it maybe like 40/60 in dice game, some players got more than 22 red when they got losing streak so that kind of losing streak give clear advantage to the house. Yup, the house will not win always. But the house edge profit is high in gambling. There are many gamblers made a huge profit in gambling. And at the present, many sites are running with the loss. If house always wins means how this is possible right. In slot games, the result is controlled by house edge, but in sports betting they don't have any control it's all depend on our luck.
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November 14, 2016, 09:48:48 AM |
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There is some experiment here about investing in different casino houses. Among the five 2 of them gives a negative return. An indication that the house does not win all the time. The negative RoI on this two casino houses forces the one who is conducting an investment experiment to drop the two casino sites and replaced by other Casino houses.
Those two sites what you're comparing is just for last few months results. Did you compare their profit and loss from the launch date of those two sites? Overall they in profits but only in last few months someone might have own big amount, so they are under loss for this short period. But surely they come back to profit soon or later.
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November 14, 2016, 11:41:04 AM |
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This is other unseen aspect what is not taken with attention just like loosing players fact. Not every online gambling site always wins there have been many new sites which just entered in bankruptcy as they were having limited resources and lot of people succeed to make money there. There are many thing to be taken in consideration but overall house wins in most cases.
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