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July 05, 2016, 06:03:17 AM
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What do you think? And why? Please arguments ;-)

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July 05, 2016, 06:17:55 AM
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Yes. Russia is led by Putin, practically a dictatorship, he was open at the start and hardened in recent years. They specify organizations from outside of Russia as "foreign agents" to manipulate their own citizens. They cracked down on the LGBT community recently. Putin has picked Orthodox Christianity as his puppet religion of choice. They invaded and stole parts of Ukraine, because Ukraine didn't want to put up with corruption any longer. Just a few examples.


How about instead of posting such open end questions and chime in with your own opinions?

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July 05, 2016, 07:01:11 AM
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I'm not sure that there is anything to discuss. The EU is the least democratic organisation of any in the developed world.

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July 05, 2016, 07:28:22 AM
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I'm not sure that there is anything to discuss. The EU is the least democratic organisation of any in the developed world.

Come back when you enter the realm of reality and not whatever delusional world you think exists. The EU is not perfect but it is still a lot more transparent and fair compared to most of Asia, Africa and South America (aka the rest of the world)

Here is a tip: repeating the crazy rubbish a hundred times does not make it true.

Check out any corruption ranking index and you'll see most of Europe outperforms Russia.

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July 05, 2016, 07:30:21 AM
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Here is a tip: repeating the crazy rubbish a hundred times does not make it true.

Please read your tip, and follow the good advice. Smiley

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July 05, 2016, 07:34:21 AM
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Yes. Russia is led by Putin, practically a dictatorship, he was open at the start and hardened in recent years. They specify organizations from outside of Russia as "foreign agents" to manipulate their own citizens. They cracked down on the LGBT community recently. Putin has picked Orthodox Christianity as his puppet religion of choice. They invaded and stole parts of Ukraine, because Ukraine didn't want to put up with corruption any longer. Just a few examples.


How about instead of posting such open end questions and chime in with your own opinions?

Those were foreign agents... I don't understand your remarks. When a foreign group (western oligarchs) try to infiltrate Russia to enslave it. It's the JOB of Russian intelligence service to stop them... I know that for a westerner soon to be turned in The Brazilian way it's hard to understand... The ruins of communism, remember they are still stuff with cccp logo in the solar system...

Then 2 millions Muslims in Moscow.... Russia is a diverse country (6 time zones)... The problem you have with Putin and his goons is that they will not follow your handlers orders. Never have never will... And for them it's easier to kill your bosses ( and I mean outright execution, who ever) than argument or discuss about keeping their sovereignty. In Russia no one would suggest to wear an arm band like in Sweden with don't touch me written on it...

Do you understand that eastern Ukrainians are Russians and that they hesitate between independent states or joining the federation. Crimea since Russian inception Russian.

I give you a D-

I'm not sure that there is anything to discuss. The EU is the least democratic organisation of any in the developed world.

You know I wanted to provide a chance to the Europhile to defend their cult... But even then they can't find a good argument... Sad. I hope that since the English Trojan horse of America is out of the EU real reforms can be undertaken and make the EU something way greater than America, the land of the fools.

Ahh he made a post... Corruption index are made by the corrupt westerners... at least it's a progress;-)

I'm not sure that there is anything to discuss. The EU is the least democratic organisation of any in the developed world.

Come back when you enter the realm of reality and not whatever delusional world you think exists. The EU is not perfect but it is still a lot more transparent and fair compared to most of Asia, Africa and South America (aka the rest of the world)

Here is a tip: repeating the crazy rubbish a hundred times does not make it true.

Check out any corruption ranking index and you'll see most of Europe outperforms Russia.

European Union is better than USA... You know it... America is corrupt beyond salvation... Rich kids and favellas.. Ohh sorry prison complex, projects, ebt foods stamp and bailouts... It's advanced corruption, the American way, exceptional always!

Big teaching of America: make private debts public while keeping profits and loot as much as you can from public expenditures. Paying public servants is cost of business. Media works, repeat as much as needed to dumb them down and not seen the light.

In Russia when an oligarchs want to overthrow the Kremlin for the benefits of foreigners... His private jet get stopped. Imagine the pride of those soldiers... Something That this American generation will never know.

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July 05, 2016, 07:41:32 AM
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Ask anyone outside of Russia or Europe where they would prefer to live, the answer will almost always be Europe. Russia and Europe were very friendly ten years ago, Putin decided against it.

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July 05, 2016, 07:45:39 AM
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Ask anyone outside of Russia or Europe where they would prefer to live, the answer will almost always be Europe. Russia and Europe were very friendly ten years ago, Putin decided against it.

Americans need to break this. America is nothing, a corrupt island. Russia + Eu+ china biggest market ever. Agent nuland and project isreal know that Europe sino Russian will never be stupid enough to believe in the chosen people scam. S&P vs The euro indexes... Were will the volume go (we know btc Wink)

Btw add the sheiks and mullahs what ever they wear... And good bye islanders...

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July 05, 2016, 07:50:55 AM
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Look at all the conflicts they foment:

Japan / China
Iran / Sheiks
Russia / Eu

Only the land of the fools benefits (remember 99% are bufons, but a few are quite smart and ready to do berthing to keep their Lolita's jet and private island full of underage girls).

This is a war, and America must do everything to appear stupid (the stupid fools) to keep the rest of the world in conflict... Because if they got the scam perpetrated on them... They will be resentment... Worldwide and children and grand children of potuses will be first in line.

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July 05, 2016, 07:51:49 AM
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I'm not sure that there is anything to discuss. The EU is the least democratic organisation of any in the developed world.

What do you mean by "the developed world"? If it's not including: North Korea, China, Russia, most of the Asian countries and most of the South American countries then maybe you have a point.

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Why is this even a question LoL

Democratic russia.... please next you gonna open a thread about how good community policing in Somalia is.

Russia is a nation where for example the opposition gets executed by the KGB... aeh its called FSB now.

You need to be devoid from reality to think russia is even near ( like same dimension ) the EU regarding democracy.

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July 05, 2016, 06:30:08 PM
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Why is this even a question LoL

Democratic russia.... please next you gonna open a thread about how good community policing in Somalia is.

Russia is a nation where for example the opposition gets executed by the KGB... aeh its called FSB now.

You need to be devoid from reality to think russia is even near ( like same dimension ) the EU regarding democracy.

Question more, always! Approval rate of Putin? Approval of the Russia parliament? Let's compare with EU one? Maybe USA is higher? And finally who elected both in Russia vs EU?

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Why is this even a question LoL

Democratic russia.... please next you gonna open a thread about how good community policing in Somalia is.

Russia is a nation where for example the opposition gets executed by the KGB... aeh its called FSB now.

You need to be devoid from reality to think russia is even near ( like same dimension ) the EU regarding democracy.

Question more, always! Approval rate of Putin? Approval of the Russia parliament? Let's compare with EU one? Maybe USA is higher? And finally who elected both in Russia vs EU?

That now is a really good question (bolded above).
I wonder who can answer this Smiley

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I don't think that the EU is any better than Russia. Things are getting worse and Merkel is increasingly showing off her dictatorial behavior.

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July 06, 2016, 09:18:01 AM
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Ask anyone outside of Russia or Europe where they would prefer to live, the answer will almost always be Europe. Russia and Europe were very friendly ten years ago, Putin decided against it.
As Russian I can say that many people in Russia count United States the best place for living and growing children.
And about your question about level of democratic - I really can't compare Russia and European Union. I think it's on the same level approximately.
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Yes. Russia is led by Putin, practically a dictatorship, he was open at the start and hardened in recent years. They specify organizations from outside of Russia as "foreign agents" to manipulate their own citizens. They cracked down on the LGBT community recently. Putin has picked Orthodox Christianity as his puppet religion of choice. They invaded and stole parts of Ukraine, because Ukraine didn't want to put up with corruption any longer. Just a few examples.


How about instead of posting such open end questions and chime in with your own opinions?
I agree with Fortify,you can't say that European Union is not democratic.
Personally i hate it,but well there are politics from all across the countries in europe,what makes it a democratic structure.
Russian Federation is democratic,but the real truth is that Putin is a dictator,and reign's the Russia.
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 Smiley
Title of article yesterday in an EU country

"A draft law restricts civil rights in connection with terrorism."

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This is happening in a country that is known that even migrants surround it.


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They invaded and stole parts of Ukraine, because Ukraine didn't want to put up with corruption any longer.

Oh, i will masturbate now.
Put me please the info about Ukraine invasion by Russian Federation and the place of Ucraine in world rank of Corruption.

Explain me, who is Valentin Liholit "Batya", superior of war crime N. Savchenko and why "Batya" is arrested now.

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July 06, 2016, 02:36:43 PM
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Check out any corruption ranking index and you'll see most of Europe outperforms Russia.

LOL
Ask "european" businessmans about what they thinking about corruption in EU and talk only after that.

http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affairs/e-library/documents/policies/organized-crime-and-human-trafficking/corruption/docs/acr_2014_en.pdf

Listen pls. this ufficial document.
The extent of corruption in Europe is "breathtaking" and it costs the EU economy at least 120bn euros annually

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July 06, 2016, 02:40:18 PM
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Russia and Europe were very friendly ten years ago, Putin decided against it.

Really?
Who put sanctions for first?
And check how much millions have chose Russian Federation as a new country for living in last 20 years.

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