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July 07, 2016, 07:17:03 PM
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Hm...
i wonder when the time's when people will send some unmanned ship,deep into the universe with really big speed.
I mean that we can finally check if these planet's where life can possibly exist,are OK to live on,and is  there some kind of live.
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July 08, 2016, 12:12:06 AM
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Hm...
i wonder when the time's when people will send some unmanned ship,deep into the universe with really big speed.
I mean that we can finally check if these planet's where life can possibly exist,are OK to live on,and is  there some kind of live.
Probably never Sad

this may be of interest to you. http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/100-million-for-probes-to-alpha-centauri-yes-really/

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July 08, 2016, 02:18:24 AM
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Hoax.
Sounds to me like you believe that the moon landing was faked lol. Do you have any videos or documentaries about the moon landing that you could recommend me? I've seen a few from here and there but they all sound like bs, hardly no prove.. There's also this movie on Netflix called Moonwalkers, it's pretty interested and I think you might like it.

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July 08, 2016, 03:23:58 AM
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Hey, we are in Mars man...... Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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July 08, 2016, 10:11:43 PM
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Very good to see when people becoming more and more powerful every day!

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July 09, 2016, 02:08:00 AM
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Very good to see when people becoming more and more powerful every day!

 Yes and soon we will be powerful enough to destroy Jupiter and all it's many moons just as we are doing to the earth today  Cry
We already dumped Galileo into Jupiter.  It's like we already ran out of places for our trash.


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July 09, 2016, 02:38:17 AM
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Very good to see when people becoming more and more powerful every day!

 Yes and soon we will be powerful enough to destroy Jupiter and all it's many moons just as we are doing to the earth today  Cry
We already dumped Galileo into Jupiter.  It's like we already ran out of places for our trash.




they are gonna crash juno into the planet too so they dont risk it contaminating europa due to the fact there could be life there. any probe sent into its atmosphere would burn to less then ash before it touched anything solid(if there even is a solid core which we will learn through juno) anyway so i dont think Jupiter has anything to worry about. also probes are hardly trash its not like we are launching empty beer bottles into space.

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July 09, 2016, 05:17:12 AM
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Very good to see when people becoming more and more powerful every day!

 Yes and soon we will be powerful enough to destroy Jupiter and all it's many moons just as we are doing to the earth today  Cry
We already dumped Galileo into Jupiter.  It's like we already ran out of places for our trash.




they are gonna crash juno into the planet too so they dont risk it contaminating europa due to the fact there could be life there. any probe sent into its atmosphere would burn to less then ash before it touched anything solid(if there even is a solid core which we will learn through juno) anyway so i dont think Jupiter has anything to worry about. also probes are hardly trash its not like we are launching empty beer bottles into space.

   Firstly, we don't know if life exists on Jupiter or Europa.  Why choose to contaminate one over the other? Because we know for sure that human life on Jupiter is impractical which makes it okay to pollute it? 
 Secondly, why would we launch empty beer bottles into space?  They can be cleaned and refilled or recycled unlike the 750 lbs of titanium space junk that was no longer useful and needed to be dumped somewhere as rubbish.  Mankind is looking for alternative locations for their survival and old habits die hard.  We are genetically predisposed to using whatever bounty nature provides for us with impunity (or so we think).  We haven't been able to control ourselves here on earth and now there are over 1 million pieces of space junk in orbit around earth.  Man hasn't yet set foot on anything beyond our moon and it's getting very dangerous to venture out because of all the high speed trash.  We should expend more effort on examining our relationship with the earth and less on space exploration.

 

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July 09, 2016, 07:24:06 AM
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Very good to see when people becoming more and more powerful every day!

 Yes and soon we will be powerful enough to destroy Jupiter and all it's many moons just as we are doing to the earth today  Cry
We already dumped Galileo into Jupiter.  It's like we already ran out of places for our trash.




they are gonna crash juno into the planet too so they dont risk it contaminating europa due to the fact there could be life there. any probe sent into its atmosphere would burn to less then ash before it touched anything solid(if there even is a solid core which we will learn through juno) anyway so i dont think Jupiter has anything to worry about. also probes are hardly trash its not like we are launching empty beer bottles into space.

   Firstly, we don't know if life exists on Jupiter or Europa.  Why choose to contaminate one over the other? Because we know for sure that human life on Jupiter is impractical which makes it okay to pollute it? 
 Secondly, why would we launch empty beer bottles into space?  They can be cleaned and refilled or recycled unlike the 750 lbs of titanium space junk that was no longer useful and needed to be dumped somewhere as rubbish.  Mankind is looking for alternative locations for their survival and old habits die hard.  We are genetically predisposed to using whatever bounty nature provides for us with impunity (or so we think).  We haven't been able to control ourselves here on earth and now there are over 1 million pieces of space junk in orbit around earth.  Man hasn't yet set foot on anything beyond our moon and it's getting very dangerous to venture out because of all the high speed trash.  We should expend more effort on examining our relationship with the earth and less on space exploration.

 




Not polluting  Jupiter as the probe will burn up like i said. Im aware of the space junk  that orbits the earth and the only reason i care is because its going to make it harder to send more probes. Also i notice you have the internet and probbably a cell phone... assume you watch tv from time to time? All of this brought to you by shit we launched into space. Personally i wanna know as much about the universe as i can amd we wont do that by not going to space.  And really the amount of stuff we put into space vs how much space there is.... cmon man.

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July 09, 2016, 02:53:57 PM
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Very good to see when people becoming more and more powerful every day!

 Yes and soon we will be powerful enough to destroy Jupiter and all it's many moons just as we are doing to the earth today  Cry
We already dumped Galileo into Jupiter.  It's like we already ran out of places for our trash.




they are gonna crash juno into the planet too so they dont risk it contaminating europa due to the fact there could be life there. any probe sent into its atmosphere would burn to less then ash before it touched anything solid(if there even is a solid core which we will learn through juno) anyway so i dont think Jupiter has anything to worry about. also probes are hardly trash its not like we are launching empty beer bottles into space.

   Firstly, we don't know if life exists on Jupiter or Europa.  Why choose to contaminate one over the other? Because we know for sure that human life on Jupiter is impractical which makes it okay to pollute it? 
 Secondly, why would we launch empty beer bottles into space?  They can be cleaned and refilled or recycled unlike the 750 lbs of titanium space junk that was no longer useful and needed to be dumped somewhere as rubbish.  Mankind is looking for alternative locations for their survival and old habits die hard.  We are genetically predisposed to using whatever bounty nature provides for us with impunity (or so we think).  We haven't been able to control ourselves here on earth and now there are over 1 million pieces of space junk in orbit around earth.  Man hasn't yet set foot on anything beyond our moon and it's getting very dangerous to venture out because of all the high speed trash.  We should expend more effort on examining our relationship with the earth and less on space exploration.

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Not polluting  Jupiter as the probe will burn up like i said. Im aware of the space junk  that orbits the earth and the only reason i care is because its going to make it harder to send more probes. Also i notice you have the internet and probbably a cell phone... assume you watch tv from time to time? All of this brought to you by shit we launched into space. Personally i wanna know as much about the universe as i can amd we wont do that by not going to space.  And really the amount of stuff we put into space vs how much space there is.... cmon man.

 That's exactly the attitude I was speaking to in my first post.  That attitude of man is so prevalent in everything we do.  Whether it's only a little bit or it's in the interest of science/cost/expediency, it's still garbage and we're still discarding more and more waste.  No, I don't have satellite TV (or cableTV); I have an antenna and capture OTA channels (I don't watch TV) but I understand your point.  In saying that, I would like to add that America did not begin its space program with the altruistic idea of collateral benefits for mankind but certainly, we have seen some benefits.
 
 I don't understand what you mean it will burn up?  Titanium is an element.  It will remain as titanium - something that probably didn't exist on Jupiter before we dumped it there.  The other issue is the plutonium onboard that will remain as plutonium (at least until it decays to Uranium) and will continue to be radioactive whether in elemental form or as a hydride.  Again, neither are naturally occurring elements on Jupiter.  I'm pretty sure Plutonium doesn't naturally exist anywhere and yet, it is the mainstay of space exploration.

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July 09, 2016, 04:10:44 PM
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Very good to see when people becoming more and more powerful every day!

 Yes and soon we will be powerful enough to destroy Jupiter and all it's many moons just as we are doing to the earth today  Cry
We already dumped Galileo into Jupiter.  It's like we already ran out of places for our trash.




they are gonna crash juno into the planet too so they dont risk it contaminating europa due to the fact there could be life there. any probe sent into its atmosphere would burn to less then ash before it touched anything solid(if there even is a solid core which we will learn through juno) anyway so i dont think Jupiter has anything to worry about. also probes are hardly trash its not like we are launching empty beer bottles into space.

   Firstly, we don't know if life exists on Jupiter or Europa.  Why choose to contaminate one over the other? Because we know for sure that human life on Jupiter is impractical which makes it okay to pollute it? 
 Secondly, why would we launch empty beer bottles into space?  They can be cleaned and refilled or recycled unlike the 750 lbs of titanium space junk that was no longer useful and needed to be dumped somewhere as rubbish.  Mankind is looking for alternative locations for their survival and old habits die hard.  We are genetically predisposed to using whatever bounty nature provides for us with impunity (or so we think).  We haven't been able to control ourselves here on earth and now there are over 1 million pieces of space junk in orbit around earth.  Man hasn't yet set foot on anything beyond our moon and it's getting very dangerous to venture out because of all the high speed trash.  We should expend more effort on examining our relationship with the earth and less on space exploration.

 image redacted for brevity



Not polluting  Jupiter as the probe will burn up like i said. Im aware of the space junk  that orbits the earth and the only reason i care is because its going to make it harder to send more probes. Also i notice you have the internet and probbably a cell phone... assume you watch tv from time to time? All of this brought to you by shit we launched into space. Personally i wanna know as much about the universe as i can amd we wont do that by not going to space.  And really the amount of stuff we put into space vs how much space there is.... cmon man.

 That's exactly the attitude I was speaking to in my first post.  That attitude of man is so prevalent in everything we do.  Whether it's only a little bit or it's in the interest of science/cost/expediency, it's still garbage and we're still discarding more and more waste.  No, I don't have satellite TV (or cableTV); I have an antenna and capture OTA channels (I don't watch TV) but I understand your point.  In saying that, I would like to add that America did not begin its space program with the altruistic idea of collateral benefits for mankind but certainly, we have seen some benefits.
 
 I don't understand what you mean it will burn up?  Titanium is an element.  It will remain as titanium - something that probably didn't exist on Jupiter before we dumped it there.  The other issue is the plutonium onboard that will remain as plutonium (at least until it decays to Uranium) and will continue to be radioactive whether in elemental form or as a hydride.  Again, neither are naturally occurring elements on Jupiter.  I'm pretty sure Plutonium doesn't naturally exist anywhere and yet, it is the mainstay of space exploration.



i see what you are saying i really do.. i just think that the good that comes out of space exploration all the new science that we get beats the small amount of bad. its a pretty safe bet that there is no life on Jupiter can i say that for sure? no. but give me a few weeks and i may be able to. titanium is already on Jupiter and everywhere else because its in asteroids so is uranium and pretty much any other metal you can think of. everything that everything is made of was forged in a star including you and i.

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July 09, 2016, 06:14:29 PM
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July 11, 2016, 07:36:35 PM
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I'm a bit OT here, but did you see this image of a Jupiter's aurora captured some days ago with the Hubble telescope?

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Poor photoshop fakery.

I can do literally in 15 minutes, a more convincing aurora on Jupiter in Photoshop. And I'm rank amateur!  Grin

However, this jupiter/moon hoaxes can be found out in photoshop. They always use an eliptical marquee to make it a perfect circle. Fake CGI spheres are also perfect.

Bonus material:

NASA Jupiter Hoax - NASA Caught&exposed Faking Space Again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1xAxog2OM

Educate yourself: Nasa Fraud JUNO FAKE MISSION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5NjN2wt6nI
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July 11, 2016, 07:50:11 PM
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I'm a bit OT here, but did you see this image of a Jupiter's aurora captured some days ago with the Hubble telescope?

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Poor photoshop fakery.

I can do literally in 15 minutes, a more convincing aurora on Jupiter in Photoshop. And I'm rank amateur!  Grin

However, this jupiter/moon hoaxes can be found out in photoshop. They always use an eliptical marquee to make it a perfect circle. Fake CGI spheres are also perfect.

Bonus material:

NASA Jupiter Hoax - NASA Caught&exposed Faking Space Again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK1xAxog2OM

Educate yourself: Nasa Fraud JUNO FAKE MISSION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5NjN2wt6nI

sigh... your brain is a hoax.

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July 11, 2016, 08:39:29 PM
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This is interesting, I would like to ask this question to NASA themselves.

Why is this photograph of Jupiter http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap140517.html taken in 2014 the EXACT same as this photograph allegedly taken in 2016? http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/hubble-captures-vivid-auroras-in-jupiter-s-atmosphere

If you look closely you'll notice that the only difference is the aurora and one of them is adjusted for contrast. Looks like NASA took a 2014 image and are trying to pass it as a 2016 image. Why is what I would like to know.

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