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June 12, 2011, 03:05:05 AM
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You can't DDOS a wallet address.  It's not an address on a network, it's simply a private key.  I can create an address with some pen and paper calculations (would be rather hard, since I'm not a computer, but possible), and you could send money to it.  I could, at a later date, inject that private/public key pair into my wallet and voila, I have ze monies.  An address is just the "rights" to spend the money, not some kind of identifying IP address or somesuch.

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June 12, 2011, 03:07:07 AM
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Could we just get their Bitcoin addresses (like PM trolls telling them you will donate), and then DDOS the hell out of them?? Then they will never receive money with the same wallet ever again, and hopefully leave here as well.
you're talk about serious criminal offense.

It is a global network, there is no way to know if they are US based from their wallet address.
its not SO global network. not yet. even not 100x from required size/flow. feds still can use data mining forensinc[statistica/activity analysis, mostly], for notable cost Tongue
let alone activity status relevance to investigation initiation/success.
point is, you never endager someone life, if he just make minor mistake, probably unintentional, right ?
same with IT warfare - responding violently for bitching is almost same as hurting kids.
of course, if trolls, does measurable damage, including society and/or health/lifes, its completely different business.
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June 12, 2011, 03:09:13 AM
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Could we just get their Bitcoin addresses (like PM trolls telling them you will donate), and then DDOS the hell out of them?? Then they will never receive money with the same wallet ever again, and hopefully leave here as well.
you're talk about serious criminal offense.

It is a global network, there is no way to know if they are US based from their wallet address.
its not SO global network. not yet. even not 100x from required size/flow.
let alone activity status relevance to investigation initiation/success.
point is, you never endager someone life, if he just make minor mistake, probably unintentional, right ?
same with IT warfare - responding violently for bitching is almost same as hurting kids.
of course, if trolls, does measurable damage, including society and/or health/lifes, its completely different business.

1) It's a moot point, see my above post.
2) A DDOS can't endanger someones life... Seriously, where did you go to tech school, because they should lose their accreditation.

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June 12, 2011, 03:14:38 AM
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Could we just get their Bitcoin addresses (like PM trolls telling them you will donate), and then DDOS the hell out of them?? Then they will never receive money with the same wallet ever again, and hopefully leave here as well.
you're talk about serious criminal offense.

It is a global network, there is no way to know if they are US based from their wallet address.
its not SO global network. not yet. even not 100x from required size/flow.
let alone activity status relevance to investigation initiation/success.
point is, you never endager someone life, if he just make minor mistake, probably unintentional, right ?
same with IT warfare - responding violently for bitching is almost same as hurting kids.
of course, if trolls, does measurable damage, including society and/or health/lifes, its completely different business.

1) It's a moot point, see my above post.
2) A DDOS can't endanger someones life... Seriously, where did you go to tech school, because they should lose their accreditation.
1. its written BEFORE you post and unrelated to it. basicly you're right, but particular wallet-holding node is still trace-able. and thus - vulnerable.
2. if you reading something, please read. if someone provide you tactical/strategy example, take it as t/s example, not course of action/advice, if doctor say you "jump from WTC!", you should turn on brain AND memory, probably Wink and etc and etc.
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June 12, 2011, 03:20:22 AM
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1. its written BEFORE you post and unrelated to it. basicly you're right, but particular wallet-holding node is still trace-able. and thus - vulnerable.
2. if you reading something, please read. if someone provide you tactical/strategy example, take it as t/s example, not course of action/advice, if doctor say you "jump from WTC!", you should turn on brain AND memory, probably Wink and etc and etc.
1) Fair enough.
2) I... could not understand a single word of that.

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June 12, 2011, 03:43:31 AM
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Good idea, this forum can be great again.

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June 12, 2011, 03:44:35 AM
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i mean thats you take my [intentionally-sarcastic and off-course]examples of "why you should respond at corresponding level" too seriously.
and yes, DDoS sometime can cost lives, manly unintended[i hope].
aside notable example with targeting hospitals, airlines/airliners, powerstation, rest critical infrastructure, impact and its scale hardly [fully]predictible :/
we're not wave knives or shot bulelts to someone, who 'look" dangerous, or even [just]theaten[by words] us, usually.

p.s.
actually in trolls context, intel gatering is WAY more interesting, IMO.
and very-very-very curious about recent trolls assault on forum and already do some OSI on-topic.
and my [unbaked by forensinc]assumption thats is both mixed corporate[mostly financial]zealots/trolls and newspapers trolls.
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