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June 12, 2011, 01:18:12 AM
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A somethingawful post is to blame for the influx of so so so so so so many troll topics. If we stop responding to them, we can stop clogging up this forum with BS.
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June 12, 2011, 01:20:20 AM
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June 12, 2011, 01:32:20 AM
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I say we go with our min 100 posts to start a thread. Or I may open another forum with an invite system or something. We need a place for the grown-ups to meet and get work done.

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June 12, 2011, 01:34:11 AM
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I say we go with our min 100 posts to start a thread. Or I may open another forum with an invite system or something. We need a place for the grown-ups to meet and get work done.

Please, please, please can we get a minimum post limit on thread starting.  Also, I do think it would be good for the grown-ups to have a private or perhaps moderated place to discuss.
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June 12, 2011, 01:34:22 AM
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I volunteer an article for topic of discussion to clear out the trolls.  Grin

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June 12, 2011, 01:54:12 AM
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Just stop responding to them.  Think of this as growing pains, it sucks now, but we're going to be stronger/faster.

I would be very interested in a more serious, invite only message board/system.  It seems that much of irc has also become polluted.
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June 12, 2011, 01:55:19 AM
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Just stop responding to them.  Think of this as growing pains, it sucks now, but we're going to be stronger/faster.

I would be very interested in a more serious, invite only message board/system.  It seems that much of irc has also become polluted.

This is like when the influx of people from AOL in 1993 ruined Usenet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September
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June 12, 2011, 02:06:18 AM
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Any system that gains sufficient social interest will also attract griefers. Griefing Bitcoin itself is too... well, impossible... so the griefers are targeting the community. Like Schumer's political attack, this too is part of growing and should be expected. It's up to the community members to remind each other never to feed a Mogwai after midnight... or well, feed trolls at all.
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June 12, 2011, 02:06:55 AM
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This is like when the influx of people from AOL in 1993 ruined Usenet. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

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June 12, 2011, 02:17:05 AM
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I made a graph of the problem.

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As you can see, it will only get worse. It's really hard for newcomers here because of all of the trolling. Something needs to be done. Maybe we need a karma system, like reddit, so that the higher-quality posts rise to the top.

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June 12, 2011, 02:20:51 AM
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I say we go with our min 100 posts to start a thread. Or I may open another forum with an invite system or something. We need a place for the grown-ups to meet and get work done.

Please, please, please can we get a minimum post limit on thread starting.  Also, I do think it would be good for the grown-ups to have a private or perhaps moderated place to discuss.

Won't help, they'll just piss allover existing threads until they get enough posts to start their own. The only solution is moderation, or if you find that unpalatable:

Just stop responding to them.  Think of this as growing pains, it sucks now, but we're going to be stronger/faster.

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June 12, 2011, 02:21:33 AM
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The better question is, has the bitcoin forum outgrown the capabilities of smf (http://www.simplemachines.org/)?

Offhand I don't have any good recommendations, but I know there things out there.  Is there a for pay service that hosts message boards with solid moderation and identity management (with reputation).

Maybe we should be creating some threads addressing how moderation could/should occur and see if there is some sort of community consensus.
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June 12, 2011, 02:24:18 AM
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The better question is, has the bitcoin forum outgrown the capabilities of smf (http://www.simplemachines.org/)?

Offhand I don't have any good recommendations, but I know there things out there.  Is there a for pay service that hosts message boards with solid moderation and identity management (with reputation).

Maybe we should be creating some threads addressing how moderation could/should occur and see if there is some sort of community consensus.

If it comes to a new system, I like Vanilla IMO.
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June 12, 2011, 02:25:14 AM
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I say we go with our min 100 posts to start a thread. Or I may open another forum with an invite system or something. We need a place for the grown-ups to meet and get work done.

I support this.

Also, move to VBulletin, hash IP addresses, and for the most part a more private PM system.

Time is money. This means that if you have spare time, you can use it to make money.

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June 12, 2011, 02:49:21 AM
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+1

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June 12, 2011, 02:53:44 AM
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Just stop responding to them.  Think of this as growing pains, it sucks now, but we're going to be stronger/faster.

I would be very interested in a more serious, invite only message board/system.  It seems that much of irc has also become polluted.

+1

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June 12, 2011, 02:54:40 AM
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why we should ?
who will entertain us, then ? for free !! even not for bitcions[for taxpayers money in worst case].
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June 12, 2011, 02:55:38 AM
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Could we just get their Bitcoin addresses (like PM trolls telling them you will donate), and then DDOS the hell out of them?? Then they will never receive money with the same wallet ever again, and hopefully leave here as well.
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June 12, 2011, 02:58:15 AM
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Could we just get their Bitcoin addresses (like PM trolls telling them you will donate), and then DDOS the hell out of them?? Then they will never receive money with the same wallet ever again, and hopefully leave here as well.
you're talk about serious criminal offense.
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June 12, 2011, 03:02:32 AM
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Could we just get their Bitcoin addresses (like PM trolls telling them you will donate), and then DDOS the hell out of them?? Then they will never receive money with the same wallet ever again, and hopefully leave here as well.
you're talk about serious criminal offense.

It is a global network, there is no way to know if they are US based from their wallet address. It's not a federal crime to DDOS foreigners, and also Bitcoin is legally gray anyways.
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