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July 07, 2016, 10:54:37 AM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
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July 07, 2016, 11:02:33 AM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
And what's next? Banning the use of bitcoin because banks don't regulate it? I gamble sometimes for fun but I don't think government should ban gambling. They can implement a way to collect tax from it if that is what they want or put a surveilance if they want to moderate it but banning? I think that's ridiculous.
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July 07, 2016, 11:07:49 AM Last edit: July 07, 2016, 01:54:19 PM by harizen |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
The one that will only affected is those company na nakabased dito sa country. Iyong mismong nagooperate dito ng online gambling which is under licensed by PAGCOR Philippines. So nothing to worry about if we will take it sa mga usual gambling type na ginagawa natin dito especially using our bitcoin. If balak nila yan parang ang hirap isipin kung how they will do some moves para di natin mapasok ang mga bitcoin gambling sites. [EDIT] I thought Im on local section. Translation: The one that will only affected is those company which is based in our country (PH). Those who are operating online gambling that has licensed to operate by the PAGCOR Philippines. So nothing to worry about if we will take it to our usual gambling type especially using our bitcoin. If the government really wants to ban that , I can't think of a way they can stop us from visiting online gambling sites which are based outside of the country.
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July 07, 2016, 11:11:17 AM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
I think it is not a serious problem for real gamblers because there are many ways to access online gambling site even though your government ban it. So you do not need to worry about it imo, online gambling is also illegal in my country but in fact there are still many local online gambling sites exist and have many active players.
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Mark02 (OP)
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July 07, 2016, 11:19:38 AM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
The one that will only affected is those company na nakabased dito sa country. Iyong mismong nagooperate dito ng online gambling which is under licensed by PAGCOR Philippines. So nothing to worry about if we will take it sa mga usual gambling type na ginagawa natin dito especially using our bitcoin. If balak nila yan parang ang hirap isipin kung how they will do some moves para di natin mapasok ang mga bitcoin gambling sites. Actually you have a point, they cannot ban the gambling sites outside our country BUT. They can ban the bitcoin accounts that involves gambling. Example, here we are using coins.ph as bitcoin wallet. Once they traced that the transaction is from gambling. They are banning this account. And worst, the balance from that account is not refundable. Sad to those who lost their balance . That's how they control online gambling from other countries.
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July 07, 2016, 11:25:02 AM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
It is impossible to ban online gambling for any government when with help of modern technology players get access to there easily and there are so many alternate ways exist, I think people wouldn't care too much about this.
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July 07, 2016, 11:56:28 AM |
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Actually you have a point, they cannot ban the gambling sites outside our country BUT. They can ban the bitcoin accounts that involves gambling. Example, here we are using coins.ph as bitcoin wallet. Once they traced that the transaction is from gambling. They are banning this account. And worst, the balance from that account is not refundable. Sad to those who lost their balance . That's how they control online gambling from other countries.
FYI Mark, Gambling is already against coins.ph TOS. Before signing up for a wallet you should read their TOS first to avoid problem. They will surely ban you if they trace that you are getting money from a gambling source be it with the Presidents order or without. I've heard about Duterte guy, looks like he has lot of supporters in his fight against drug dealers in Philippines, but he also makes stupid decisions like this one, it will be impossible to ban online gambling since people will always find the way, I mean what he's gonna do, put giant firewall on Philippine internet like in China?
He's been hunting all the drug involved citizens right from his 1st day as a President. A lt of people has already dies and was put to jail, even police officials. I wouldn't be surprised if he will implement such big move on the internet if he wanted to. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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July 07, 2016, 12:28:18 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
It is impossible to ban online gambling for any government when with the help of modern technology players get access to there easily, and there are so many alternate ways exist, I think people wouldn't care too much about this. Yes, it is not that easy to Ban Online gambling. There are some online gambling sites are there how can they ban all sites. And if people play online gaming means how can they catch people, Crores of people will use do gambling so the government will not find all them right. So I think Online gambling will never ban in any country.
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July 07, 2016, 12:34:45 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
if gambling online really banned in your country philippines i think you should be follow the rules who available in your country because if your government want to stop gambling online then those activities will be prohibit and illegal also if you still start to gambling with casinos online and got caught you can be got in jail and this is bad for you
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July 07, 2016, 12:38:57 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
It is impossible to ban online gambling for any government when with the help of modern technology players get access to there easily, and there are so many alternate ways exist, I think people wouldn't care too much about this. Yes, it is not that easy to Ban Online gambling. There are some online gambling sites are there how can they ban all sites. And if people play online gaming means how can they catch people, Crores of people will use do gambling so the government will not find all them right. So I think Online gambling will never ban in any country. There are services like VPNs, Tor and tails. It's easy to get pass any restrictions and Philippines government should rather focus on catching criminals rather than online gamblers.
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July 07, 2016, 12:41:32 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
Well, i think so if addicted in gambling isn't good for someone (maybe he can lost all his money, and then searching for loan, after that he cant repay the loan, and finally hes ended in jail). but if you want still gambling, you still can change your IP by using VPN, right?
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July 07, 2016, 01:06:07 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
i don't think banning it would solve anything. first of all gambling has been very huge in Philippines as far as i know. and online gambling is only a new thing that came to exist recently. so their worrying about people getting addicted to it is nonsense. so if taxes is the only problem they have with gambling they can easily regulate online gambling sites and take taxes that way because banning it would only lead people to use VPNs and TOR more.
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July 07, 2016, 01:29:22 PM |
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It is always good to suppress gambling even in a small way, even if we think this will not solve anything, I think it will solve something, small by small pieces, will always turn big, and we will see its result, just support him.
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July 07, 2016, 01:41:40 PM |
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i think this only applies to those online casino that has a permit to operate issued by pagcor, not on those sites that we used to play. i only played one online casino which is playtongits i dont know if that one will be shutdown.
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July 07, 2016, 02:08:17 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
Banning online gambling wont change anything it will only affect the ones that has a permit or affiliated with PAGCOR, but the ones that is outside the country wont be affected even if they put a firewall people can still play using Virtual Private Network. why not just Pass a Bill. to allow government to collect taxes on online gambling just like they did to Tabbaco/Cigarette.
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July 07, 2016, 02:18:57 PM |
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I also think that is not a solution to make stop the people to do gamble, it is not a good decision as I think about this to ban the online gambling in any country because it demand very advanced technology to prohibit the access through internet there but I am not sure it will be helpful for them.
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July 07, 2016, 02:20:26 PM |
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its this all along? I had it in my mind that its for online gambling purposes that he wants the Internet service providers in the country to comply and provide better connection. Damn Digong you're making it hard for us, I just bought a lot BRK.
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July 07, 2016, 03:25:42 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
In think its because they can't collect tax from it. People are greedy and everyone wants a slice of the pie. I believe people should have the freedom to make their own mistakes and not be dictated over like some child.
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July 07, 2016, 03:41:45 PM |
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Actually my country also ban online gambling. It is one of the first few country to embrace on btc and even used to have atm for btc. However, if it is related to online gambling, the government is still against the idea. They have already ban those popular gambling sites and even gave us a year of time frame to withdraw everything from those websites.
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July 07, 2016, 03:43:45 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
In think its because they can't collect tax from it. People are greedy and everyone wants a slice of the pie. I believe people should have the freedom to make their own mistakes and not be dictated over like some child. People should have the freedom to make their own mistakes? wth? The president is a reasonable man and so he wants the Filipino people not to get into gambling for it ruins life that instead of buying food thru the hard earn money that they toil from their 9-5 day construction job, they lose these money in gambling. imagine what will happen if people lose their money everyday. They'll gonna lose their minds too while they turn to each other like bunch of animals.
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