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August 29, 2016, 07:31:01 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
If they are going to ban it because of tax then it is sad to see that, because their government is going to intervene in online businesses and ar unable to device a system with which they can collect tax from them. They should have to try to device a system with which they should able to collect the taxes.
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August 29, 2016, 10:05:57 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
If they are going to ban it because of tax then it is sad to see that, because their government is going to intervene in online businesses and ar unable to device a system with which they can collect tax from them. They should have to try to device a system with which they should able to collect the taxes. Yeah they should have to be advanced and have a control on them with that they will spend only a smaller amount to make that technology but they will get a higher profit in the form of taxes from that gambling sites.
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August 30, 2016, 12:25:50 AM |
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They already started this by closing e-games. But they will not be able to stop us people who are gambling using Bitcoin. We are anonymous that they will going to find it hard before they trace or stop our actions in online gambling.
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August 30, 2016, 12:56:00 AM |
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Is the online gambling include gambling with bitcoin ? If not, then you are still okay because you can still gambling with bitcoins. In my country also banned gambling but i still can do it by gambling with bitcoin.
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August 30, 2016, 02:43:09 AM |
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Is the online gambling include gambling with bitcoin ? If not, then you are still okay because you can still gambling with bitcoins. In my country also banned gambling but i still can do it by gambling with bitcoin.
Yes even in bitcoin gambling that includes the total ban because at wherever angle you are going to look at it. Online gambling is gambling and the most used exchange site in Philippines is that they can detect where you are getting your bitcoins at all. But the only solution that is by using bitcoin mixer, they won't trace it even it came from gambling.
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August 30, 2016, 03:33:51 AM |
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Is the online gambling include gambling with bitcoin ? If not, then you are still okay because you can still gambling with bitcoins. In my country also banned gambling but i still can do it by gambling with bitcoin.
Yes even in bitcoin gambling that includes the total ban because at wherever angle you are going to look at it. Online gambling is gambling and the most used exchange site in Philippines is that they can detect where you are getting your bitcoins at all. But the only solution that is by using bitcoin mixer, they won't trace it even it came from gambling. Even if you wont use a mixer they wont trace you. Total ban would be implemented but it would took a long time since as we all know that bitcoin transactions are anonymous and very hard to trace where those money came from each transaction you made. If total ban would be implemented.
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August 30, 2016, 04:22:32 AM |
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Is the online gambling include gambling with bitcoin ? If not, then you are still okay because you can still gambling with bitcoins. In my country also banned gambling but i still can do it by gambling with bitcoin.
Yes even in bitcoin gambling that includes the total ban because at wherever angle you are going to look at it. Online gambling is gambling and the most used exchange site in Philippines is that they can detect where you are getting your bitcoins at all. But the only solution that is by using bitcoin mixer, they won't trace it even it came from gambling. Even if you wont use a mixer they wont trace you. Total ban would be implemented but it would took a long time since as we all know that bitcoin transactions are anonymous and very hard to trace where those money came from each transaction you made. If total ban would be implemented. Yes that's the good thing about bitcoin because of its security and anonymity. I guess that online gambling will be applied to the e-games that are now a good industry in the country. That is what the government wants to stop. Because I have a friend that is an addicted e-gamer and now he stopped because of that total ban.
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August 30, 2016, 05:08:04 AM |
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Is the online gambling include gambling with bitcoin ? If not, then you are still okay because you can still gambling with bitcoins. In my country also banned gambling but i still can do it by gambling with bitcoin.
Yes even in bitcoin gambling that includes the total ban because at wherever angle you are going to look at it. Online gambling is gambling and the most used exchange site in Philippines is that they can detect where you are getting your bitcoins at all. But the only solution that is by using bitcoin mixer, they won't trace it even it came from gambling. Even if you wont use a mixer they wont trace you. Total ban would be implemented but it would took a long time since as we all know that bitcoin transactions are anonymous and very hard to trace where those money came from each transaction you made. If total ban would be implemented. I agree, bitcoin is hard to trace, and there's no way they'd trace you that hard and waste so many resources, unless the government has something against you or you are a shady person. If those don't apply to you, I doubt you will be caught. Honestly, I think if you deposit bitcoin to gamble and don't change your bitcoins to real money, I don't think you will have any problem at all. The government wants to ban online gambling mainly because they can't collect tax, but they can't collect tax on bitcoins anyways. I think that you would only have a problem if you played at an online casino with fiat.
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August 30, 2016, 05:23:12 AM |
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Thers still no way they can track whether your bitcoin comes from gambling sites. The coins.ph don't track any of us as far as i know even when they specifically meant they bann users who are indulge with gambling sites.
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August 30, 2016, 05:33:39 AM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
Goverment decision will be the best to follow and I think your goverment are wise enough As I know eventhough gambling being banned, you still can try to access via VPN , right
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August 30, 2016, 01:02:42 PM |
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With the use of BTC everything is possible, we can still do gambling anytime we want, that is why bitcoin is widely use for gamblers because of the convenience it can give to us and no country ever can ban gambling when we are using bitcoin, there are many ways to gamble in the internet so we will not be affected.
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August 30, 2016, 01:10:04 PM |
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Some of the replies is off topic. The online gambling that Pres Duterte is talking about is those online gambling operator in the Philippines under PAGCOR-related online gambling.
Those online gambling site including bitcoin gambling site outside of the operation here in the Phillipines can still freely visited by people in here. Just use other bitcoin web wallet based outside on the PH and use only local exchanger when withdrawing the funds (bitcoin) to avoid some problems in local exchangers term.
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August 30, 2016, 01:13:14 PM |
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Some of the replies is off topic. The online gambling that Pres Duterte is talking about is those online gambling operator in the Philippines under PAGCOR-related online gambling.
Those online gambling site including bitcoin gambling site outside of the operation here in the Phillipines can still freely visited by people in here. Just use other bitcoin web wallet based outside on the PH and use only local exchanger when withdrawing the funds (bitcoin) to avoid some problems in local exchangers term.
Exactly, that is why my friend who is always playing e-games stopped already because that is considered as online gambling here in country. Because that is making the big casino's that are paying big taxes a competition and getting their customers instead that those people are going to play to their establishment. But still Duterte is allowing gambling in the Philippines, only physical.
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August 30, 2016, 01:36:12 PM |
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Some of the replies is off topic. The online gambling that Pres Duterte is talking about is those online gambling operator in the Philippines under PAGCOR-related online gambling.
Those online gambling site including bitcoin gambling site outside of the operation here in the Phillipines can still freely visited by people in here. Just use other bitcoin web wallet based outside on the PH and use only local exchanger when withdrawing the funds (bitcoin) to avoid some problems in local exchangers term.
Exactly, that is why my friend who is always playing e-games stopped already because that is considered as online gambling here in country. Because that is making the big casino's that are paying big taxes a competition and getting their customers instead that those people are going to play to their establishment. But still Duterte is allowing gambling in the Philippines, only physical. It was already admitted by the new PAGCOR chairman that they cannot stop online gambling especially those like sports betting because they know that it is rampant in the country and they have an idea they cannot stop since the gambling site is not operating in the Philippines.
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It was the Egames that is going to be ban in your country people but the online gambling where we are using bitcoin will never be ban. Bitcoin is anonymous so how can they do that.
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August 30, 2016, 03:59:15 PM |
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Some of the replies is off topic. The online gambling that Pres Duterte is talking about is those online gambling operator in the Philippines under PAGCOR-related online gambling.
Those online gambling site including bitcoin gambling site outside of the operation here in the Phillipines can still freely visited by people in here. Just use other bitcoin web wallet based outside on the PH and use only local exchanger when withdrawing the funds (bitcoin) to avoid some problems in local exchangers term.
Exactly, that is why my friend who is always playing e-games stopped already because that is considered as online gambling here in country. Because that is making the big casino's that are paying big taxes a competition and getting their customers instead that those people are going to play to their establishment. But still Duterte is allowing gambling in the Philippines, only physical. That's really unfortunate. Well, the way they reasoned out is somewhat valid in their perspective because indeed they really can't simply put tax on them if they don't know where to find them. Well, with that said, I guess bitcoin users can still gamble on bitcoin-related sites that aren't based in the philippines so I don't think it's that much of a problem because I know most of the big bitcoin gambling sites are based either in America or Europe.
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You're freaking spreading a misinformation, dude. The "online gambling" that he's talking about is the "E-BINGO" and other "LINKED" games like that, not necessarily "online gambling" that we know which involves bitcoin and other altcoins (which, the Philippines clearly has nothing to say when it comes to written laws). The government can tax those, but in bitcoins and other cryptocurrency? We don't have written laws in regards to that.
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August 30, 2016, 05:19:32 PM |
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Is there any source where the proof is given that your government is going to ban gambling because of unable to collect tax? I think it is not the reason and the only reason is that the government do not want their citizens to become addicts of gambling and as it is a poor country so they do not want that their money go to outside of the country because of the lose from their citizens at online gambling sites.
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Is this move even possible ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) unless the government says they will ban the use of the Internet.....then the might get the ban in full effect
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August 30, 2016, 06:55:20 PM |
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The newly elected President Rodrigo Duterte wants to stop the online gambling here in the Philippines. Its because they cannot collect tax from it and they don't want people to become addicted to it. What is your side ?
Goverment decision will be the best to follow and I think your goverment are wise enough As I know eventhough gambling being banned, you still can try to access via VPN , right Yeah, they can access to gambling sites via VPN etc and can do the payment with bitcoin, so one will know that it the the people of Philippine who are playing, but they will find their success only if they follow the rules by their leaders, with that none of the nation get the success.
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