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September 17, 2018, 11:14:03 PM
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If you are talking about https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1543343.msg45595151#msg45595151...

But at her trial, if the police union stood up for her, 99+% of cops would stand up for her, no matter how guilty she was.

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Stood up for her? Why would anyone do that without evidence? That's how you think trials and judges work? Both parties need to provide the necessary evidence and the judge or judges will provide a sentence. If someone is accused of rape I guess you consider him guilty just because he is accused and everyone should support the other party even though you don't know if it really happened. Again, stop with the idiotic arguments mate, you are not getting anywhere.

Again, the point isn't why anyone would or wouldn't stand up for her. It's what the cops would do. They might not be happy with whatever the police union said and did. But they would follow the police union almost 100%. ISIS follows THEIR union almost 100%, as well. Way more cops. Cops way worse.

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''But they would follow the police union almost 100%'' What does this mean? Follow what exactly? This was a particular cop that is accused of doing something bad. What are you talking about?

This means that cops would formally agree with the police union almost 100%, even if they personally and informally did not agree.

ISIS doesn't have a police union, because they are all their own union. So, they are good by agreeing with themselves.

Cops aren't so good in agreeing with themselves. They are duplicitously bad at the same time:
1. Agreeing with their own police union;
2. Disagreeing with their own police union.

You can trust ISIS to do exactly what they are there for.

You never can tell about cops.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

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This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.
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September 18, 2018, 01:58:41 PM
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This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

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September 18, 2018, 02:46:38 PM
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This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

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''kill and beat innocent people against their laws'' A small percentage <0.09% of them do that.

''Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.''

Again badecker's logic. Let's say you have 50.000 ISIS members, we don't know the exact number.

Then you have around 765.000 cops in the US. 0.09% of those are involved in police shootings which most of them are justified, so it's probably around 0.001% unjustified shootings but let's use 0.09% That's around 680 cops involved in shootings. Again not counting how many were justified.

You basically believe that all cops are worse than isis because 0.09% of them do bad things (again not counting justified cases) when 100% of ISIS does bad things. Badecker's logic is 0.09% > 100%

A 10 year old would have better logic than you.
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September 18, 2018, 06:31:50 PM
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This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

Cool

''kill and beat innocent people against their laws'' A small percentage <0.09% of them do that.
Even if you had proof for your statistics, standard statistics say that only 10% of crimes are ever caught. But these statistics would be lying, because cops will stalk and persecute anybody who would show that 10% is way under what it really is with cops... who get away with all kinds of crap, because they can.



''Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.''

Again badecker's logic. Let's say you have 50.000 ISIS members, we don't know the exact number.

Then you have around 765.000 cops in the US. 0.09% of those are involved in police shootings which most of them are justified, so it's probably around 0.001% unjustified shootings but let's use 0.09% That's around 680 cops involved in shootings. Again not counting how many were justified.

You basically believe that all cops are worse than isis because 0.09% of them do bad things (again not counting justified cases) when 100% of ISIS does bad things. Badecker's logic is 0.09% > 100%

A 10 year old would have better logic than you.

You still don't get it, do you. When ISIS does things that we call bad, they are doing what is good in their religion. Our 1st Amendment protects freedom of religion. How much more when it is in their own country(s)!

Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad. But I have just shown you above, how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

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September 18, 2018, 07:17:36 PM
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EVEN, even, if you look for a rotten apple in a police dept., you must be insane to compare them to ISIS. I won't be telling about all those "wonderful" things they do to people they consider infidels, or gays, or, god forbid, jews (or other nation they deem not worthy living); I just tell you that in their own territory they are pretty much the same thing you loathe in this thread, they too police people, and making them live by their rules, so, in a sense, they are an establishment you hate so much.
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September 18, 2018, 07:43:24 PM
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EVEN, even, if you look for a rotten apple in a police dept., you must be insane to compare them to ISIS. I won't be telling about all those "wonderful" things they do to people they consider infidels, or gays, or, god forbid, jews (or other nation they deem not worthy living); I just tell you that in their own territory they are pretty much the same thing you loathe in this thread, they too police people, and making them live by their rules, so, in a sense, they are an establishment you hate so much.

What are you even talking about? ISIS people do all those good things for their people, too. That is totally not the point.

You can trust ISIS. How can you trust them? You can trust them to kill you if you are NOT one of them, but to love you if you ARE one of them.

You can't trust cops. They're supposed to love you, but they might kill you.

They might kill you because you look at them the wrong way. They don't even care enough to make sure they have the right apartment when they do a drug raid, to take away a person's free rights. They often overly beat people... hit him in the face, and when he raises his arms to protect himself, then say he is resisting, and hit him some more.

And as I have been saying directly above, who cares what the police union attorneys say in court - if it is right or wrong... who cares - just agree with them.

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September 18, 2018, 07:46:41 PM
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This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

Cool

''kill and beat innocent people against their laws'' A small percentage <0.09% of them do that.
Even if you had proof for your statistics, standard statistics say that only 10% of crimes are ever caught. But these statistics would be lying, because cops will stalk and persecute anybody who would show that 10% is way under what it really is with cops... who get away with all kinds of crap, because they can.



''Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.''

Again badecker's logic. Let's say you have 50.000 ISIS members, we don't know the exact number.

Then you have around 765.000 cops in the US. 0.09% of those are involved in police shootings which most of them are justified, so it's probably around 0.001% unjustified shootings but let's use 0.09% That's around 680 cops involved in shootings. Again not counting how many were justified.

You basically believe that all cops are worse than isis because 0.09% of them do bad things (again not counting justified cases) when 100% of ISIS does bad things. Badecker's logic is 0.09% > 100%

A 10 year old would have better logic than you.

You still don't get it, do you. When ISIS does things that we call bad, they are doing what is good in their religion. Our 1st Amendment protects freedom of religion. How much more when it is in their own country(s)!

Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad. But I have just shown you above, how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

Cool

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.
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September 18, 2018, 08:08:39 PM
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''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

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September 18, 2018, 08:29:56 PM
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''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

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Again, if it's way larger you wouldn't have any problem in showing the statistics and evidence. Yet you keep refusing to provide any statistics.
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