ISIS is nothing compared to U.S. cops.

[BADecker]

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

''kill and beat innocent people against their laws'' A small percentage <0.09% of them do that.

Even if you had proof for your statistics, standard statistics say that only 10% of crimes are ever caught. But these statistics would be lying, because cops will stalk and persecute anybody who would show that 10% is way under what it really is with cops... who get away with all kinds of crap, because they can.

''Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.''

Again badecker's logic. Let's say you have 50.000 ISIS members, we don't know the exact number.

Then you have around 765.000 cops in the US. 0.09% of those are involved in police shootings which most of them are justified, so it's probably around 0.001% unjustified shootings but let's use 0.09% That's around 680 cops involved in shootings. Again not counting how many were justified.

You basically believe that all cops are worse than isis because 0.09% of them do bad things (again not counting justified cases) when 100% of ISIS does bad things. Badecker's logic is 0.09% > 100%

A 10 year old would have better logic than you.

You still don't get it, do you. When ISIS does things that we call bad, they are doing what is good in their religion. Our 1st Amendment protects freedom of religion. How much more when it is in their own country(s)!

Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad. But I have just shown you above, how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

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[Jimbable]

EVEN, even, if you look for a rotten apple in a police dept., you must be insane to compare them to ISIS. I won't be telling about all those "wonderful" things they do to people they consider infidels, or gays, or, god forbid, jews (or other nation they deem not worthy living); I just tell you that in their own territory they are pretty much the same thing you loathe in this thread, they too police people, and making them live by their rules, so, in a sense, they are an establishment you hate so much.

[BADecker]

EVEN, even, if you look for a rotten apple in a police dept., you must be insane to compare them to ISIS. I won't be telling about all those "wonderful" things they do to people they consider infidels, or gays, or, god forbid, jews (or other nation they deem not worthy living); I just tell you that in their own territory they are pretty much the same thing you loathe in this thread, they too police people, and making them live by their rules, so, in a sense, they are an establishment you hate so much.

What are you even talking about? ISIS people do all those good things for their people, too. That is totally not the point.

You can trust ISIS. How can you trust them? You can trust them to kill you if you are NOT one of them, but to love you if you ARE one of them.

You can't trust cops. They're supposed to love you, but they might kill you.

They might kill you because you look at them the wrong way. They don't even care enough to make sure they have the right apartment when they do a drug raid, to take away a person's free rights. They often overly beat people... hit him in the face, and when he raises his arms to protect himself, then say he is resisting, and hit him some more.

And as I have been saying directly above, who cares what the police union attorneys say in court - if it is right or wrong... who cares - just agree with them.

[Astargath]

This is badecker's logic:

Let's say you have a group of 2000 people tell you that they are going to murder people.

Then you have a group of 2000 people that do not tell you that but 2 of them go and murder people.

From badeckers logic, the first group is better because they tell you, the second group is worse than the first because they werent supposed to murder anyone.

Crazy.

Since Astargath won't tell us what groups he is talking about, what he says is irrelevant for this topic.

ISIS follow their Islam government/religion better than all the major Islamic groups. They obey their religious laws even to the point of executing religious heretics within their own group, as their religion tells them.

Cops obey much of the law of their land, get away with lots of crap because of the position they are in, kill and beat innocent people against their laws, and side with the police union no matter what the police union does, rescue cats out of trees.

ISIS is honest and upright according to their Islamic religion/government. Cops are all over the place with regard to theirs.

Nobody ever knows about cops. Everybody can tell about ISIS.

Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.

''kill and beat innocent people against their laws'' A small percentage <0.09% of them do that.

Even if you had proof for your statistics, standard statistics say that only 10% of crimes are ever caught. But these statistics would be lying, because cops will stalk and persecute anybody who would show that 10% is way under what it really is with cops... who get away with all kinds of crap, because they can.

''Cops are way worse than ISIS, because you can never tell about cops, but you always know about ISIS.''

Again badecker's logic. Let's say you have 50.000 ISIS members, we don't know the exact number.

Then you have around 765.000 cops in the US. 0.09% of those are involved in police shootings which most of them are justified, so it's probably around 0.001% unjustified shootings but let's use 0.09% That's around 680 cops involved in shootings. Again not counting how many were justified.

You basically believe that all cops are worse than isis because 0.09% of them do bad things (again not counting justified cases) when 100% of ISIS does bad things. Badecker's logic is 0.09% > 100%

A 10 year old would have better logic than you.

You still don't get it, do you. When ISIS does things that we call bad, they are doing what is good in their religion. Our 1st Amendment protects freedom of religion. How much more when it is in their own country(s)!

Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad. But I have just shown you above, how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%.

Cops are way worse than ISIS.

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

[BADecker]

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

[Astargath]

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

Again, if it's way larger you wouldn't have any problem in showing the statistics and evidence. Yet you keep refusing to provide any statistics.

[nactivate]

Which might not raise any red flags. Because who wasn't reading those stories? Who wasn't clicking those links? But my son's reading habits combined with my search for a pressure cooker and my husband's search for a backpack set off an alarm of sorts at the joint terrorism task force headquarters.

[coins4commies]

ISIS doesn't murder people by their standards because they are only executing people who have committed crimes.  Its kind of like how you guys say most police shootings are "justified".  In my eyes, killing someone is never justified but ISIS and police kill people who they think there is justification to kill.

You also have to realize ISIS soldiers were police and military at the same time.  The US military kills far more innocent people but are still celebrated at home because they are "fighting for us".  Well ISIS could be viewed the same way.  ISIS is the most similar entity to the US, but its much more like the US at an earlier time. Its 19th century US.  The difference is that today's US military and police have the best technology that has ever existed.  This allows them to carry out their atrocities in a much cleaner, hands off way and appear to be morally superior to a group like ISIS.

All police and soldiers are the ultimate class traitors because they take an oath to enforce all laws (even the unjust ones) and follow all orders (even the unjust ones).  That makes all of them bad. Maybe there are some exceptions of cops who lied on the oath and secretly would not enforce laws they see as unjust, but that would be a fake cop.   I'm sure some of them are great people at home with their family and friends but you can't be a good person while you are on duty in that job.  Sorry.

[joebrook]

ISIS doesn't murder people by their standards because they are only executing people who have committed crimes.  Its kind of like how you guys say most police shootings are "justified".  In my eyes, killing someone is never justified but ISIS and police kill people who they think there is justification to kill.

You also have to realize ISIS soldiers were police and military at the same time.  The US military kills far more innocent people but are still celebrated at home because they are "fighting for us".  Well ISIS could be viewed the same way.  ISIS is the most similar entity to the US, but its much more like the US at an earlier time. Its 19th century US.  The difference is that today's US military and police have the best technology that has ever existed.  This allows them to carry out their atrocities in a much cleaner, hands off way and appear to be morally superior to a group like ISIS.

All police and soldiers are the ultimate class traitors because they take an oath to enforce all laws (even the unjust ones) and follow all orders (even the unjust ones).  That makes all of them bad. Maybe there are some exceptions of cops who lied on the oath and secretly would not enforce laws they see as unjust, but that would be a fake cop.   I'm sure some of them are great people at home with their family and friends but you can't be a good person while you are on duty in that job.  Sorry.

BS what about the Christians who were beheaded for not renouncing their faith, what crime did they commit for ISIS to condemn them to death. Regardless of all that deaths by police in the USA is rising with an alarming trend and there have been more death of US citizens than deaths when compared terrorism.

[coins4commies]

Freedom of religion is law in the US.  It is not in the caliphate.  Perhaps you should research the history of government lynchings and scalping in the US.  There were several massacres of native men women and children for simply being different. The US has been much more vicious.  At least with ISIS, you know that your religion is illegal and are given the option to renounce it.  

[yoseph]

Freedom of religion is law in the US.  It is not in the caliphate.  Perhaps you should research the history of government lynchings and scalping in the US.  There were several massacres of native men women and children for simply being different. The US has been much more vicious.  At least with ISIS, you know that your religion is illegal and are given the option to renounce it.  

The Police have been given so much power and it’s not good at all and most of the times when they kill innocent and unarmed civilians they go scout free. Am beginning to suspect that white supremacist are being hired in the police force for this reason.

[BADecker]

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

Again, if it's way larger you wouldn't have any problem in showing the statistics and evidence. Yet you keep refusing to provide any statistics.

How can one provide statistics when the statistic makers are instructed to hide bad-cop statistics? And, if they show the statistics, the cops gang up on them and terrorize them in subtle ways, right in their own neighborhood.

However, Google "bad cops" or "police brutality" to see what is going on behind the scenes. And check out Why All Police Are Bad — for Society.

[tiptravel]

Not afraid, why do they fear me?
They always act according to the law, if you do not break the law of the country - they will not touch you.
What is the problem at all?

[coins4commies]

Not afraid, why do they fear me?
They always act according to the law, if you do not break the law of the country - they will not touch you.
What is the problem at all?

You are probably white and have never heard of "stop and frisk" or "your car matches the description of a car involved in an earlier crime"

[BADecker]

Not afraid, why do they fear me?
They always act according to the law, if you do not break the law of the country - they will not touch you.
What is the problem at all?

You are probably white and have never heard of "stop and frisk" or "your car matches the description of a car involved in an earlier crime"

Right! Youtube search on "black guy shot by cop in car."   

[Astargath]

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

Again, if it's way larger you wouldn't have any problem in showing the statistics and evidence. Yet you keep refusing to provide any statistics.

How can one provide statistics when the statistic makers are instructed to hide bad-cop statistics? And, if they show the statistics, the cops gang up on them and terrorize them in subtle ways, right in their own neighborhood.

However, Google "bad cops" or "police brutality" to see what is going on behind the scenes. And check out Why All Police Are Bad — for Society.

Checking a few videos of ''bad cops'' doesn't show how all cops are bad, it shows specific cops breaking the law or abusing it, if you want to claim all police is worse than ISIS then you have to prove that a big part of them are indeed bad not just a few. I can certainly find thousands of videos of cops doing good things, would that convince you they are good?

[BADecker]

''Cops, on the other hand, aren't supposed to do anything bad.'' And again, a 10 year old would have better logic than your peanut brain. It doesn't matter what they are supposed to do or not, if a group of 100 people are doing bad things, all of them, it doesn't matter if that's what they think it's good because what they are doing is factually and morally wrong. A group of 100 murderers is worse than a group of 100 people who has 1 murderer, it's simple fucking logic man, if you can't even understand that then I don't understand how you can function in real life. - Your problem is that in your analysis, you are among the 100 doing bad things by not analyzing correctly, and by painting a picture that is way different than reality.

''how that 0.09% is extremely faulty. It's probably more like a full 20%. '' Go ahead and prove it, I already gave you the statistics and evidence, you never bring any statistics at all and yet you keep claiming stupid shit. - To use your terminology, prove your statistics are accurate, and are not simply something somebody made up. I explained how your statistic is wrong. click back through a couple of posts to see.

If you want to call that extremely small percentage of cops/humans that murder people worse than ISIS, go ahead although even then it wouldn't be true since ISIS intention is to kill everyone that doesn't believe. All the murderers in USA most likely don't want to kill everyone else. So you are wrong 100% of the times basically.

That "small percent" is way larger than you state. Your willingness to condone it by not recognizing what is happening around you, is starting to make you way worse than ISIS right along with the cops.

Again, if it's way larger you wouldn't have any problem in showing the statistics and evidence. Yet you keep refusing to provide any statistics.

How can one provide statistics when the statistic makers are instructed to hide bad-cop statistics? And, if they show the statistics, the cops gang up on them and terrorize them in subtle ways, right in their own neighborhood.

However, Google "bad cops" or "police brutality" to see what is going on behind the scenes. And check out Why All Police Are Bad — for Society.

Checking a few videos of ''bad cops'' doesn't show how all cops are bad, it shows specific cops breaking the law or abusing it, if you want to claim all police is worse than ISIS then you have to prove that a big part of them are indeed bad not just a few. I can certainly find thousands of videos of cops doing good things, would that convince you they are good?

Hey, don't you realize that ISIS are good to their own people?

[coins4commies]

I'm sure there are American cops and ISIS soldiers who go home to their families and are otherwise great people, but the problem is they took an oath to uphold the laws, all of the laws, even the cruel, unjust laws.  They took an oath to disregard their own moral judgement to enforce immoral laws.  That is what makes them all bad.   The ones who aren't bad will be out of a job for speaking out against their coworkers or breaking the oath.

[afluence]

What happened was this: At about 9am, my husband, who happened to be home yesterday, was sitting in the living room with our two dogs when he heard a couple of cars pull up outside. He looked out the window and saw three black SUVs in front of our house; two at the curb in front and one pulled up behind my husband's Jeep in the driveway, as if to block him from leaving.

[BADecker]

Look at what happened Sunday.

Hero Security Guard Stops Mass Shooting and is Killed by Cops Who Showed Up After it Was Over

A hero security guard stopped a mass shooting with his legal gun, saving an untold number of lives and was holding the suspect at gunpoint when police showed up and killed him.

Robbins, IL — Early Sunday morning, a tragedy took place in Illinois after a hero security guard stopped what was quickly becoming a deadly mass shooting, only to be shot by police moments later. Jemel Roberson, 26, was working security at Manny's Blue Room Sunday morning when his heroism got him killed.

The incident began after multiple individuals were asked to leave the bar for being unruly. Witnesses say all the men left and then returned and one came back in with a gun opening fire into the bar. As everyone else ran for cover, Roberson according to witnesses, engaged the shooter with his own gun.

Roberson then apprehended one of the men involved in the shooting and held him at gunpoint as the police showed up. Four people had been shot, but thanks to Roberson, no one else was hit, and those four people were transported to a local hospital and treated for their injuries. Sadly, Roberson would not be so lucky.

At around 4 a.m., police officers from multiple suburban departments responded to the call of shots fired. When they arrived, Roberson was holding one of the men on the ground so he could be apprehended by police.

"He had somebody on the ground with his knee in back, with his gun in his back like, 'Don't move,'" witness Adam Harris said.

"Everybody was screaming out, 'he was a security guard,' and they basically saw a black man with a gun and killed him," witness Harris tells WGN TV.

Roberson—who was licensed to carry a firearm—and is a father of a 9-month-old boy, saved an untold number of lives that night only to be gunned down shortly after.

"A Midlothian officer encountered a subject with a gun and was involved in an officer-involved shooting. The subject the officer shot was later pronounced deceased at an area hospital," Chief Daniel Delaney of the Midlothian Police Department said in a statement.

Adding to the irresponsible nature of the shooting is the fact that an attorney for the family noted that Roberson was actually wearing security attire and had a hat on with "security" emblazoned across the front.

According to the AP, charges were pending against the man who investigators believe fired the initial shots during a dispute. His name has yet to be released, and he remained hospitalized Monday, Cook County sheriff's spokeswoman Sophia Ansari said.

As the AP reports:

Attorney Gregory Kulis filed a civil rights lawsuit seeking more than $1 million on behalf of Roberson's mother, Beatrice Roberson. He said Jemel Roberson was dressed in black but wearing a hat with the word "security" when he was shot.

Kulis also echoed witness reports that Roberson was holding down another man outside the bar when the officer arrived and shot him.

I have an old, local newspaper that has an article about the stress that cops are under. We need to get rid of cops. They have a "shoot first, ask questions later" attitude. They are more dangerous than the bad guys on the street.