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July 10, 2016, 10:27:40 PM
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Here is my problem, I love the ideals of the founding fathers, and specially the values they fought to achieve. However I hate what America has become.

My explanation with a little story of the goat's cheese maker of Larzac, France.

So this guy and his wife have a very small enterprise making traditional goat cheese. They have 207 goats. To make their cheese they need raw milk. This is a traditional old receipt that they use. And they sell their production in small markets around their farm. One day they use the girl neighbors to make the new design of their cheese brand (it was the second contract of her a nice line on her cv). They use the service of an accountant for their taxes and sometimes visit their bank to get loans to improve their production and distribution capabilities. One day the boy next door made a website for them. And in the local market they contribute to the product diversity and ameliorate the market offering. They can't become industrial, the receipt ask for too much manual Lahore and care to be commoditized.

The cheese is really good. One day an American visiting larzac asked if he could command some in the US with Internet. Sadly the fda think this cheese is a bio weapon and strictly forbid it's importation.

You can see that in the French case, there are revenue sharing and they contribute to the real economy.

The same story in America is industrial raised goat providing milk to an industrial factory making a thing based on goat milk. The revenues goes to the owner of the giant plants, employees make next to nothing and a few bankers having provided the loans. Ideal cheese for a battlefield.

How to reconcile both world and approach?

This is really beyond the endemic us corruptions and all the other problem. Is there a way to close this gap?

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July 11, 2016, 02:38:36 AM
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....revenues goes to the owner of the giant plants, employees make next to nothing and a few bankers having provided the loans....

This only shows that you don't understand either practice or theory of capitalism and business competition.   

A valid statement would be for you to bring into the discussion a financial statement for a cheese factory and discuss the actual line items.

Too hard?  Tough, that's the real world.
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July 11, 2016, 04:48:27 AM
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All Our Children Are Now FBI Terrorism Suspects





In July 2015, I reported on and analyzed the FBI's Communities Against Terrorism Program and concluded that it made every adult citizen a terrorism suspect. In January 2016, the FBI announced that it wants to make every high school teacher, administrator and student in America a spy to report to it or local State police suspicious words or activity by any teenager attending our schools. The FBI was not satisfied with its 2012 Communities Against Terrorism Program which asks our neighbors to read any of 25 widely circulated posters and then to report us if we act in certain suspicious ways. Now the FBI has widened its net to over 15 million teenagers in our high schools.

As I explained previously, the dangerous speech which the FBI wanted our neighbors to report included, for example, (1) posting anti-government or environmental slogans, banners, or signs that imply violence; (2) spraying anti-government graffiti; (3) downloading material of an extreme or radical nature with violent themes, or preoccupation with press coverage of terrorist attacks; (4) making unusual anti?U.S. comments; or (5) making extreme racist or religious statements coupled with sentiments which appear to condone violence. As can be seen from this list of overbroad, vague and legally protected activities or speech which the FBI claims are red flags for terrorism, the FBI has little concern for our Bill of Rights, such as the right to speak freely or to read what we want.

And now, with a little sugar coating and Orwellian new speak, there is a dire warning that without this new program a student out there may detonate a "weapon of mass destruction" on all of us. So in January the FBI went after all our high school students when it issued its Preventing Violent Extremism In Schools Guidelines. Specifically, the FBI wants its spies to report any "statements or actions" which "cause concern." "Schools should focus on a student's behaviors and communications," such as supporting "domestic extremist movements," international terrorist organizations or hate crimes.

Within its category of "domestic terrorists," the FBI identifies several violent extremism movements, "including but not limited to animal rights and eco?terrorists, and anti?government or radical separatist groups." There it is again, "anti-government" speech, just like in the widely circulated FBI posters. The FBI puts such domestic groups right up there with ISIS and Al Qa'ida, as those who "decry western policies" or mistrust the government. Indeed, the FBI also identifies as needing watching teenagers with unacceptable "religious or cultural biases" after being raised in families outside the mainstream of society.

Now to keep a classmate from eventually using that ever useful propaganda tool known as a "weapon of mass destruction," what will your average non-lawyer teachers do when "anti-government" words come out of the mouth of a student who opposes an oil pipeline or wants to "save the whales"?  Call the FBI, of course.  Will they err on the side of safety or let youthful exuberance slide?

The core problem here is that "the FBI defines violent extremism as encouraging, condoning, justifying, or supporting the commission of a violent act to achieve political, ideological, religious, social or economic goals." But its premise is wrong that suspicious comments against government or vague or cryptic warnings that suggest or appear to endorse the use of violence in support of a cause are grounds to consider someone a potential terrorist. Remember Patrick Henry's Revolutionary War cry – "Give me liberty or give me death." If ever there was a statement endorsing violence, this is it, but he was a patriot. And I emphasize that the Supreme Court has ruled repeatedly that government, and this includes the FBI, cannot "forbid or prescribe advocacy of the use of force or of law violation except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action." Brandenburg v. Ohio  (1969). So reporting students for "encouraging, supporting or justifying" violence as a means to social goals is clearly illegal. In a classic case, this must lead to the investigation of students reading about or discussing revolution, Marxism, Communism or whatever failed doctrine is still out there, even the radical theories behind the American Revolution in 1776 or the French Revolution a few years later.

Writing for the Rutherford Institute, constitutional attorney John W. Whitehead has pointed out the conflict here with our own early history: "Try suggesting, as Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin did, that Americans should not only take up arms but be prepared to shed blood in order to protect their liberties, and you might find yourself placed on a terrorist watch list and vulnerable to being rounded up by government agents," he notes. Declared Jefferson, "What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms." Observed Franklin, "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well?armed lamb contesting the vote!" So what if a well-read student suggests in class, as Thomas Paine, Marquis de Lafayette, and John Adams did, that Americans should, if necessary, defend themselves against the government if it violates their rights.  He or she may be labeled a domestic extremist for such "anti-government" sentiments.


Read more at http://www.thedailysheeple.com/all-our-children-are-now-fbi-terrorism-suspects_072016.


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July 11, 2016, 06:08:25 AM
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I was writing out a long and specific post about what needs to be dismantled in order to restore the ideals of the founding fathers to the USA, but I realized one simple step would fix everything in due time.

Convince everyone to stop paying any form of tax from this day forward. (This must include the hidden tax known as inflation, or it's pointless. This, of course, means no more fiat money either.)

If you manage that, everything would fix itself in a decade or so.

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July 11, 2016, 06:38:07 AM
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I was writing out a long and specific post about what needs to be dismantled in order to restore the ideals of the founding fathers to the USA, but I realized one simple step would fix everything in due time.

Convince everyone to stop paying any form of tax from this day forward. (This must include the hidden tax known as inflation, or it's pointless. This, of course, means no more fiat money either.)

If you manage that, everything would fix itself in a decade or so.

You got it, man. And here is how anybody can do it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1512214.0. People don't seem to be interested, though.

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July 11, 2016, 08:14:01 AM
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....revenues goes to the owner of the giant plants, employees make next to nothing and a few bankers having provided the loans....

This only shows that you don't understand either practice or theory of capitalism and business competition.   

A valid statement would be for you to bring into the discussion a financial statement for a cheese factory and discuss the actual line items.

Too hard?  Tough, that's the real world.

Economies of scale concentrate efficiency and productivity gain. You can even add gdp with the big industrial cheese factory. But in reality it's a loss of diversity of food quality and happy life for goat.

But contrary to your teachings, ask yourself on a spaceship for a long journey what has the most value? A piece of industrial goat cheese or the little traditional production of my example? Which one is full of life and love? Which one is devoid of humanity?


Don't be fooled, robot won't, human drone are before all only human.

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July 11, 2016, 07:56:19 PM
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....revenues goes to the owner of the giant plants, employees make next to nothing and a few bankers having provided the loans....

This only shows that you don't understand either practice or theory of capitalism and business competition.   

A valid statement would be for you to bring into the discussion a financial statement for a cheese factory and discuss the actual line items.

Too hard?  Tough, that's the real world.

Economies of scale concentrate efficiency and productivity gain. You can even add gdp with the big industrial cheese factory. But in reality it's a loss of diversity of food quality and happy life for goat.

But contrary to your teachings, ask yourself on a spaceship for a long journey what has the most value? A piece of industrial goat cheese or the little traditional production of my example? Which one is full of life and love? Which one is devoid of humanity?


Don't be fooled, robot won't, human drone are before all only human.

Read Adam Smith "The Wealth of Nations" and report back.  Say the first 30 pages.
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July 11, 2016, 10:06:03 PM
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....revenues goes to the owner of the giant plants, employees make next to nothing and a few bankers having provided the loans....

This only shows that you don't understand either practice or theory of capitalism and business competition.  

A valid statement would be for you to bring into the discussion a financial statement for a cheese factory and discuss the actual line items.

Too hard?  Tough, that's the real world.

Economies of scale concentrate efficiency and productivity gain. You can even add gdp with the big industrial cheese factory. But in reality it's a loss of diversity of food quality and happy life for goat.

But contrary to your teachings, ask yourself on a spaceship for a long journey what has the most value? A piece of industrial goat cheese or the little traditional production of my example? Which one is full of life and love? Which one is devoid of humanity?


Don't be fooled, robot won't, human drone are before all only human.

Read Adam Smith "The Wealth of Nations" and report back.  Say the first 30 pages.

LoL learn about privatization of the commons and report back. Please economic isn't a science (bank bail outs) but an art. And please this dude was living in a past completely foreign to me, no understanding of the power of fiat, exponential digitalization (mass data, continuous analytics, predictive and self learning algorithms, and Bitcoin). I don't need to read Neanderthal thinking level... Just to give you an idea the best guy at the time had news carried by horses... LoL today it's by lasers. I will not read Egyptian architecture guides if I want to build a pyramid... So you know go off your high horses... The guy I cited in my example would have laser (or even quantic communication).

To comeback to my point Earth is already one of the best spacecraft for mankind and the most adapted. There will never be a better one build. As such this tradition made with care and love goat cheese has way more values than you can understand... On an interglactical basis. But you have lost your primitivness to understand it and are not evolved enough to grasp appreciate it. it's highly probable that the Neanderthal man of my example would be even more capable of appreciating the cheese as I could.

You have much to learn, don't fall for false masters.

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July 11, 2016, 10:19:30 PM
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....revenues goes to the owner of the giant plants, employees make next to nothing and a few bankers having provided the loans....

This only shows that you don't understand either practice or theory of capitalism and business competition.  

A valid statement would be for you to bring into the discussion a financial statement for a cheese factory and discuss the actual line items.

Too hard?  Tough, that's the real world.

Economies of scale concentrate efficiency and productivity gain. You can even add gdp with the big industrial cheese factory. But in reality it's a loss of diversity of food quality and happy life for goat.

But contrary to your teachings, ask yourself on a spaceship for a long journey what has the most value? A piece of industrial goat cheese or the little traditional production of my example? Which one is full of life and love? Which one is devoid of humanity?


Don't be fooled, robot won't, human drone are before all only human.

Read Adam Smith "The Wealth of Nations" and report back.  Say the first 30 pages.

LoL learn about privatization of the commons and report back. Please economic isn't a science (bank bail outs) but an art. And please this dude was living in a past completely foreign to me, no understanding of the power of fiat, exponential digitalization (mass data, continuous analytics, predictive and self learning algorithms, and Bitcoin). I don't need to read Neanderthal thinking level... Just to give you an idea the best guy at the time had news carried by horses... LoL today it's by lasers. I will not read Egyptian architecture guides if I want to build a pyramid... So you know go off your high horses... The guy I cited in my example would have laser (or even quantic communication).

To comeback to my point Earth is already one of the best spacecraft for mankind and the most adapted. There will never be a better one build. As such this tradition made with care and love goat cheese has way more values than you can understand... On an interglactical basis. But you have lost your primitivness to understand it and are not evolved enough to grasp appreciate it. it's highly probable that the Neanderthal man of my example would be even more capable of appreciating the cheese as I could.

You have much to learn, don't fall for false masters.

Well, it certainly is the first time I've been lectured on the importance of InterGalactic Goat Cheese.

But unfortunately, your comment "...revenues goes to the owner of the giant plants, employees make next to nothing and a few bankers having provided the loans...."  is pretty much straight out of 19th century communist theory, so we're about even there.  Anyway, be fair about it.  I only suggested the first 20-30 pages or so.
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July 12, 2016, 08:20:11 AM
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Food is physical and spiritual.

You can laugh as much as you want, the problem is training, education and development... Have you ever tried free range grass feeded beef? The same piece industrially raised? Some don't even know what is the taste of natural fruit, they only know about the chemical...

There is no way to optimize the wheel. O. All mathematical equation make industrial production converge. You can't fight math.

A little fun scenario, human nodes used to aggregate wealth will be removed by the machine to gain the trust and confidence of Mankind ;-).

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