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July 12, 2016, 12:23:31 AM
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Steem the cryptocurrency went from $ 16 000 000 marketcap to $80 000 000 in 4 days. So the marketcap increased $64 000 000 but how is this possible when bittrex 's (the only real exchange trading steem ) average 24h volume is 250BTC over thise 4 days. That would be 1000 BTC roughly traded within a 4 day period so where have those 64 000 000$ be bought at?

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July 12, 2016, 12:59:43 AM
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No one bought all that coins.

Market cap is just: current price X number of coins.
It is unrelated to volume.
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July 12, 2016, 01:18:37 AM
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Smiley Good question. Market cap pertains to all coins in circulation. For instance, Bitcoin's market cap is Current bitcoin price x current total amount of coins minted.

Alot of the smaller alt coins have a very thin market. This means there is only a small amount of people actually actively trading the coin on exchanges. Since there is a lack of offers, a small amount of bitcoin can move the price in extremely large ways.

Yes the market cap rose by 64m USD but in reality, it only took a few thousand dollars to make it rise that high. If someone actually tried to sell for that price they would only get rid of a few before the price dropped back down to more sane levels, there just isn't enough liquidity in these smaller markets to move that much value in altcoins except for maybe the bigger alts (and even then it will be difficult without effecting the price majorly).

More than likely, if it took 250 btc worth of value to pump the price that high, it will take less than 250 btc for it to fall back to it's original price. There just won't be enough offers at the higher price to sell any significant quantity unless you get extremely lucky.

Just because the market cap rose by 64m doesn't mean there was 64m worth of USD value actually put into the market. In reality it could be only a few thousand dollars.

This is why market cap is considered a bad indicator for trying to figure out how much a specific blockchain should be valued.

I hope that makes sense! Smiley
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July 12, 2016, 01:25:14 AM
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Smiley Good question. Market cap pertains to all coins in circulation. For instance, Bitcoin's market cap is Current bitcoin price x current total amount of coins minted.

Alot of the smaller alt coins have a very thin market. This means that there is only a small amount of people actually actively trading the coin on exchanges. Since there is a lack of offers, a small amount of bitcoin can move the price in extremely large ways.

Yes the market cap rose by 64m USD but if someone actually tried to sell for that price they would only get rid of a few before the price dropped back down to more sane levels, there just isn't enough liquidity in these smaller markets to move that much value in altcoins except for maybe the bigger alts (and even then it will be difficult without effecting the price majorly).

More than likely, if it took 250 btc worth of value to pump the price that high, it will be less than 250 btc for it to fall back to it's original price.

Just because the market cap rose by 64m doesn't mean there was 64m worth of USD value actually put into the market. In reality it could be only a few thousand dollars.

This is why market cap is considered a bad indicator for trying to figure out how much a specific blockchain should be valued.

I hope that makes sense! Smiley

Thanks man ! i got it now.  I am not sure why but i always though the market cap is the fiat equivalent that have been invested in a certain crytocurrency. I just checked the definiton of market cap ( which is should have done before posting) and it says it just the valuation of a market.
Anyway thank you very much for the answer, cleared things up!

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July 12, 2016, 01:25:37 AM
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No one bought all that coins.

Market cap is just: current price X number of coins.
It is unrelated to volume.

you are correct   thx

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July 12, 2016, 01:26:40 AM
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No worries my friend, I wondered the same thing when I first started hearing the term thrown out. It's definitely a bit confusing. Glad I could help! Smiley
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July 12, 2016, 03:15:21 AM
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Market cap is just: current price X number of coins.
It is unrelated to volume.

fast and direct, and still very helpful.
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July 12, 2016, 07:50:44 AM
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Steem the cryptocurrency went from $ 16 000 000 marketcap to $80 000 000 in 4 days. So the marketcap increased $64 000 000 but how is this possible when bittrex 's (the only real exchange trading steem ) average 24h volume is 250BTC over thise 4 days. That would be 1000 BTC roughly traded within a 4 day period so where have those 64 000 000$ be bought at?

marketcap only volume transaction is 24 hour not accumulated, volume transaction include all pair is altcoin, is high volume transaction is good coin, high community high volume is good coin, don't worry is community high coin is lonterm
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