[ANN] Cryptocracy Physical Bitcoins - Limited Run - 100 Of Each Type

[Lutpin]

While we're at it, how are hologram numbers determined?
Obviously set XX got the holograms #XX, but how are the first numbers determined?
I've seen 0,1,2,3 on different finishes, is it random?

[coin@coin]

Oh yes you are right, they are different numbers per different colors.

It should be something like

Ideally 3 set x 100 coins each should be numbered as set #1:

001-100 (Gold)
101-200 (Silver)
201-300 (Black)

Set #1 is: 001-201-301
Set #27 is: 027-227-327

But different colors have different first numbers.

One reason for the funny numbering could be some of the holograms were not perfect or wrongly applied (had to be removed) so there were no matching numbers for the whole series.

Set #27 is numbered as the series finishes with number 400 (327).
Set #1 is numbered as the series finishes with number #300 (201)

[Lutpin]

Set #1 is: 001-201-301
Set #27 is: 027-227-327

Set #01 is 001-101-201
Set #27 is 227-027-327
(That is according to the pictures above, as you can see, the order is kinda mixed up)

[coin@coin]

Set #1 is: 001-201-301
Set #27 is: 027-227-327

Set #01 is 001-101-201
Set #27 is 227-027-327
(That is according to the pictures above, as you can see, the order is kinda mixed up)

Yup had a second look, well spotted.

[bitenvy]

The numbering is very confusing...     Doesn't make sense.

[Rmcdermott927]

While we're at it, how are hologram numbers determined?
Obviously set XX got the holograms #XX, but how are the first numbers determined?
I've seen 0,1,2,3 on different finishes, is it random?

That's an easy one.  

Unless there is an error in hologram application, for example, I mess up the hologram peeling it off of the roll, or it falls on the ground before I apply it, they will go like this:

001-100 gold
101-200 silver
201-300 black nickel


However I ordered 2 extra sets of holograms so they are numbered 1-500.  In all cases the last 2 of the hologram will match the last 2 digits of the serial of the coin.  The only current set that is not in the above sequence is #27.  I intend on keeping #27 for myself so it was essentially hologram application practice.  

[Rmcdermott927]

Also, I imagine most will want to keep the sets they ordered, but if the matched addresses bothers anyone, just let me know and we will work something out.  I am pretty reasonable. 

[bitenvy]

So, 3 coins, but they all share the same private/public key?  So, you fund one, you're not funding the coin, but the "set of coins".    Please explain why you did this.  I will definitely not be funding them now.  What are my options for 3 different private addresses (not just public)?

[Rmcdermott927]

So, 3 coins, but they all share the same private/public key?  So, you fund one, you're not funding the coin, but the "set of coins".    Please explain why you did this.  I will definitely not be funding them now.  What are my options for 3 different private addresses (not just public)?

As I said, it was most certainly not intentional.  Which is why if anyone is unhappy about the 1 address per set, I can work something out with them.   The coins were supposed to have 1 address for EACH coin, not each set.   I obviously can not sell them individually now which hugely stinks for me.   But, I guess its not the end of the world.   

[defcon23]

i would like to ask a security question .. ( apart the fact the same public & private keys are engraved on each same coins of a  set..)

-do you engrave public and private keys by yourself on the coins ?    
( cause if not, it could be a serious security issue to give a key list for engraving , to any mint...)
( wich is certainly not a real issue if coins are bought  only as collectors coins , and not used as a cold storage.. )

[smoothie]

So, 3 coins, but they all share the same private/public key?  So, you fund one, you're not funding the coin, but the "set of coins".    Please explain why you did this.  I will definitely not be funding them now.  What are my options for 3 different private addresses (not just public)?

As I said, it was most certainly not intentional.  Which is why if anyone is unhappy about the 1 address per set, I can work something out with them.   The coins were supposed to have 1 address for EACH coin, not each set.   I obviously can not sell them individually now which hugely stinks for me.   But, I guess its not the end of the world.   

Yeah the other issue is if the set is sold and say the owner wants to auction off two out of the three coins, they could potentially steal the Bitcoin loaded on the set after selling them as "loaded".

Indeed a very weird predicament.

[Rmcdermott927]

i would like to ask a security question .. ( apart the fact the same public & private keys are engraved on each same coins of a  set..)

-do you engrave public and private keys by yourself on the coins ?    
( cause if not, it could be a serious security issue to give a key list for engraving , to any mint...)
( wich is certainly not a real issue if coins are bought  only as collectors coins , and not used as a cold storage.. )

The coins were engraved by the company who struck the coin. 

[Zepher]

I mentioned this in your auction thread, I noticed all sets have identical BTC addresses.
Now it doesn't mean that everyone will fund the coins however even if sold empty someone may want to do that at a later date by themselves, as a present or something.

The problem I can see is that you also sell them as singles not only sets. So potentially someone may be sharing private keys with someone else.
I got sets anyway, just in case


Set #1



Set #27

Well, this is certainly an interesting situation, and one that has not come up before.
Good job spotting this before any individual coins were sold, coin@coin.

So, 3 coins, but they all share the same private/public key?  So, you fund one, you're not funding the coin, but the "set of coins".    Please explain why you did this.  I will definitely not be funding them now.  What are my options for 3 different private addresses (not just public)?

As I said, it was most certainly not intentional.  Which is why if anyone is unhappy about the 1 address per set, I can work something out with them.   The coins were supposed to have 1 address for EACH coin, not each set.   I obviously can not sell them individually now which hugely stinks for me.   But, I guess its not the end of the world.  

I was actually planning on getting Set 100 Funded with something like 0.05BTC each, and keeping it for myself.
Knowing now that the same addresses and private keys are engraved on all 3 coins in the set, I will not be doing this. Anything loaded on them will be on all 3 coins anyway.

I am glad you didn't sell any individual coins yet, that could have been disastrous..

i would like to ask a security question .. ( apart the fact the same public & private keys are engraved on each same coins of a  set..)

-do you engrave public and private keys by yourself on the coins ?    
( cause if not, it could be a serious security issue to give a key list for engraving , to any mint...)
( wich is certainly not a real issue if coins are bought  only as collectors coins , and not used as a cold storage.. )

The coins were engraved by the company who struck the coin.  

I presume that because of this, no one would recommend funding these anyway, as the keys could be compromised? ( this is just a question )

I will have a think on what to do Rmcdermott927. I won't be asking for a refund as I personally like the coins, and feel they are worth the $60 I have paid for each set.
The public addresses being the same on all 3 coins in the set is a bit of an issue though.

[Rmcdermott927]

There's not much I can do.   I think many will opt to keep the sets.   If anyone doesn't want it, that's ok too.  I can't change anything now, other than learn my lessons for series 2.    I will only sell the coins as sets so no one has the same address as anyone else.  

If anyone is upset, I apologize for the issue as I truly didn't realize.  

[CanaryInTheMine]

i would like to ask a security question .. ( apart the fact the same public & private keys are engraved on each same coins of a  set..)

-do you engrave public and private keys by yourself on the coins ?    
( cause if not, it could be a serious security issue to give a key list for engraving , to any mint...)
( wich is certainly not a real issue if coins are bought  only as collectors coins , and not used as a cold storage.. )

The coins were engraved by the company who struck the coin. 

This is terrible... I'm out.  Sorry, this isn't something I'm interested in since there's absolutely no security and it's a triple copy.

[Rmcdermott927]

i would like to ask a security question .. ( apart the fact the same public & private keys are engraved on each same coins of a  set..)

-do you engrave public and private keys by yourself on the coins ?    
( cause if not, it could be a serious security issue to give a key list for engraving , to any mint...)
( wich is certainly not a real issue if coins are bought  only as collectors coins , and not used as a cold storage.. )

The coins were engraved by the company who struck the coin. 

This is terrible... I'm out.  Sorry, this isn't something I'm interested in since there's absolutely no security and it's a triple copy.

No problem.  I will do the next series myself. 

[wiked1]

I dont see any issue.My wife and I use the same credit card and joint bank account.I will be keeping all 3 for myself though so she wont be getting her greasy hands on these anyway.

[egghead123]

I was going to buy one individually but now that we are buying sets maybe small discount or even on the postage etc   makes no diff bud just pick me out the lowest numbered ones left if possible.Cheers

[CanaryInTheMine]

I dont see any issue.My wife and I use the same credit card and joint bank account.I will be keeping all 3 for myself though so she wont be getting her greasy hands on these anyway.

If anyone gets a hold of your credit card and places unauthorized charges, the credit card will reverse those.  Not so with Bitcoin.

[Zepher]

I was going to buy one individually but now that we are buying sets maybe small discount or even on the postage etc   makes no diff bud just pick me out the lowest numbered ones left if possible.Cheers

Giving discount now is not fair to those of us who have already paid for our sets...

thanks