first video interview with lead shadow developer rhyno

[dadon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUuk3W4tSzo

https://decentralize.today/why-ryno-matthee-is-hotter-than-jennifer-lawrence-7fbce34a2048#.xn6tb5bp3

Enjoy  

https://shadowproject.io/en

[Hunyadi]

He is a likable guy!

[dadon]

No doubt bro, I have lots of faith in him.

[Zer0Sum]

He is a likable guy!

Ya man, but if your lead Dev is part-time, like he says "hobby"... it's not going anywhere...
Sorry, that's why I got out of Shadow.

[dadon]

I know it's crazy hey! To think there is actually a Developer out there who develop out of passion not money.
When satoshi made Bitcoin I'm fairly sure he built it out of passion not to line the pockets of speculators, he made BTC not to make money but because he believed the world needed it.
I apologize on behalf of rhyno for not shilling shadow too you and promising It will overtake BTC in 6 months 

[iamnotback]

Reading his expressions, he wishes he had been paid enough to develop full time ongoing, but donations dried up so now he tries to convince himself that working on as a hobby is better than getting paid. He obviously needs to be paid as he has taken another job for the past 7 months. He even mentions Bitcoin is much better funded.

I view this as the way coins die due to lack of sustained funding and focus.

[dadon]

Reading his expressions, he wishes he had been paid enough to develop full time ongoing, but donations dried up so now he tries to convince himself that working on as a hobby is better than getting paid. He obviously needs to be paid as he has taken another job for the past 7 months. He even mentions Bitcoin is much better funded.

I view this as the way coins die due to lack of sustained funding and focus.

Good observation very true thats why as of recently I give a large % of my weekly wage towards development also another member of community has started a company and part of that companies profit return will go towards paying our team to work full time, this guy is very business savvy   your points are very valid and true, but we have recently taken the steps to rectify these issues.
I will admit when I got into crypto I had $$$ signs in my eyes, but Shadow's vision has really inspired me to look at the bigger picture beyond profit, the satoshi vision is alive in project shadow we are not about money, the shadow project is more then a project it is a movement.

[Hueristic]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

[iamnotback]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well maybe we should say they should be capable of knowing what they can't safely design and steer clear of those parts. For example, I am afraid to release my Zero Knowledge Transactions until I can afford to have a real cryptographer review it.

[KiXiNiT]

So the shadowmarket is not going to allow illegal goods to be traded on there?

I thought that was the whole point of this project, to tap into the giant dark net market?

lol..

[rustynailer]

So the shadowmarket is not going to allow illegal goods to be traded on there?

I thought that was the whole point of this project, to tap into the giant dark net market?

lol..

Of course illegal goods will be traded, I am sure the vast majority of users would have no problem with drugs being traded.  I will have to clarify this with ryno, but from what I understand the keyword filtering is simply used to keep the default listings clean, so you wont see adverts for any illegal stuff when you start it up and unless you are searching for it, you wont see it. 

[rustynailer]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well maybe we should say they should be capable of knowing what they can't safely design and steer clear of those parts. For example, I am afraid to release my Zero Knowledge Transactions until I can afford to have a real cryptographer review it.

It's open source software "a real cryptographer" is welcome to review it any time they want and there is even a bounty program available.  

It's disgusting the way it is around here.  No credit for the work that he has pioneered in this space because he is not "a real cryptographer".  Maybe you will get to his level one day when you get off these forums and actually make something.

[dadon]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well...For your information until a few months ago we had a cryptographer as a core developer but unfortunately family problems that arose for him made it impossible for him to continue with the project..so we will get a new one, that's why a member of our community started a business to fund the project so we can hire more devs, so thanks for your opinion  take care

[iamnotback]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well maybe we should say they should be capable of knowing what they can't safely design and steer clear of those parts. For example, I am afraid to release my Zero Knowledge Transactions until I can afford to have a real cryptographer review it.

It's open source software "a real cryptographer" is welcome to review it any time they want and there is even a bounty program available.  

It's disgusting the way it is around here.  No credit for the work that he has pioneered in this space because he is not "a real cryptographer".  Maybe you will get to his level one day when you get off these forums and actually make something.

Dude I was defending his other work. And the reason Hueristic is making that point is because Monero's Shen-noether (who was very condescending to me also) had found a bug in the anonymity of ShadowCash.

Next time at least vent your anger at the guy who was actually criticizing. Sheesh.

Yeah it is disgusting around here. You can look in the mirror for another reason why.

[rustynailer]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well maybe we should say they should be capable of knowing what they can't safely design and steer clear of those parts. For example, I am afraid to release my Zero Knowledge Transactions until I can afford to have a real cryptographer review it.

It's open source software "a real cryptographer" is welcome to review it any time they want and there is even a bounty program available.  

It's disgusting the way it is around here.  No credit for the work that he has pioneered in this space because he is not "a real cryptographer".  Maybe you will get to his level one day when you get off these forums and actually make something.

Dude I was defending his other work. And the reason Hueristic is making that point is because Monero's Shen-noether (who was very condescending to me also) had found a bug in the anonymity of ShadowCash.

Next time at least vent your anger at the guy who was actually criticizing. Sheesh.

Yeah it is disgusting around here. You can look in the mirror for another reason why.

I'm not angry, but i am getting a bit tired of this forum.  I guess i replied to you because of the "real cryptographer" comment. 

From what i understand Shen found an exploit and then went looking for code bases that could be exploited.  This i think is how most bugs are found in software.  Getting a cryptographer to give the code a seal of approval is no guarantee of perfection and they are not silly enough to do that.

[Hueristic]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well...For your information until a few months ago we had a cryptographer as a core developer but unfortunately family problems that arose for him made it impossible for him to continue with the project..so we will get a new one, that's why a member of our community started a business to fund the project so we can hire more devs, so thanks for your opinion  take care

I was how you people treated Shen, you had a real chance to have the real deal help you out and your dev team was too uneducated to comprehend what he warned you about and you attacked him. So keep your winks to yourself.

If your community had been intelligent enough to listen to him then you would have had alot of people in your corner even with the shady (I'm not even going to say scam) start. I was in your thread from day one and have watched your coin so leave the bullshit for the n00bs.

The only reason for these Hype threads now it to try to divert ETH funds to your failed project. Do you think we cannot see that?

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well maybe we should say they should be capable of knowing what they can't safely design and steer clear of those parts. For example, I am afraid to release my Zero Knowledge Transactions until I can afford to have a real cryptographer review it.

And that is why when you do (if ever) release a project, I will trust it will be done on a correct foundation (framework) the first time. Even though you are out of your mind half the time you are a perfectionist and that my friend is something people take note of. Not to mention you have a better grasp of CC than 99.9999% of all the rest of the devs combined. If I ever see you launch a VC Token I'll probably never show up on this site again!

It's open source software "a real cryptographer" is welcome to review it any time they want and there is even a bounty program available. 

It's disgusting the way it is around here.  No credit for the work that he has pioneered in this space because he is not "a real cryptographer".  Maybe you will get to his level one day when you get off these forums and actually make something.

You apparently either do not know or are selectively remembering the gift Shen gave you guys. Do you guys need that info posted in these threads for your recollection to be corrected?

[Hueristic]

...From what i understand Shen found an exploit and then went looking for code bases that could be exploited.  This i think is how most bugs are found in software.  Getting a cryptographer to give the code a seal of approval is no guarantee of perfection and they are not silly enough to do that.

When you support a project you should do your diligence, apparently you haven't gone and researched the coin your supporting (or your spinning). Go research the exact circumstances and you will understand. Your "understanding" is incorrect. Shen did not find an exploit and then go looking for a coin to use it on as SHADOW is the ONLY coin it would work on!

Shadow was given a gift for a small bug bounty in private and you attacked one of the best cryptographers we have out of ignorance and hubris. And you want people to trust your project with their money?


AND Shen DE-Anonimized YOUR ENTIRE BLOCKCHAIN Losers.

[dadon]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well...For your information until a few months ago we had a cryptographer as a core developer but unfortunately family problems that arose for him made it impossible for him to continue with the project..so we will get a new one, that's why a member of our community started a business to fund the project so we can hire more devs, so thanks for your opinion   take care

I was how you people treated Shen, you had a real chance to have the real deal help you out and your dev team was too uneducated to comprehend what he warned you about and you attacked him. So keep your winks to yourself.

If your community had been intelligent enough to listen to him then you would have had alot of people in your corner even with the shady (I'm not even going to say scam) start. I was in your thread from day one and have watched your coin so leave the bullshit for the n00bs.

The only reason for these Hype threads now it to try to divert ETH funds to your failed project. Do you think we cannot see that?

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well maybe we should say they should be capable of knowing what they can't safely design and steer clear of those parts. For example, I am afraid to release my Zero Knowledge Transactions until I can afford to have a real cryptographer review it.

And that is why when you do (if ever) release a project, I will trust it will be done on a correct foundation (framework) the first time. Even though you are out of your mind half the time you are a perfectionist and that my friend is something people take note of. Not to mention you have a better grasp of CC than 99.9999% of all the rest of the devs combined. If I ever see you launch a VC Token I'll probably never show up on this site again!

It's open source software "a real cryptographer" is welcome to review it any time they want and there is even a bounty program available.  

It's disgusting the way it is around here.  No credit for the work that he has pioneered in this space because he is not "a real cryptographer".  Maybe you will get to his level one day when you get off these forums and actually make something.

You apparently either do not know or are selectively remembering the gift Shen gave you guys. Do you guys need that info posted in these threads for your recollection to be corrected?

I have no Idea who  shen is so i don't know how i treated him with disrespect, links please or your lying. YOU said I, And now I feel offended because YOU are throwing accusations around about ME so please provide links were I, not anybody else treated this 'Shen' with Disrespect.

Edit. I now have read Shen is the guy who found the bug that was fixed just like other coins bugs were fixed, ok cool show me those links now. regards.

[Hueristic]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well...For your information until a few months ago we had a cryptographer as a core developer but unfortunately family problems that arose for him made it impossible for him to continue with the project..so we will get a new one, that's why a member of our community started a business to fund the project so we can hire more devs, so thanks for your opinion   take care

I was how you people treated Shen, you had a real chance to have the real deal help you out and your dev team was too uneducated to comprehend what he warned you about and you attacked him. So keep your winks to yourself.

If your community had been intelligent enough to listen to him then you would have had alot of people in your corner even with the shady (I'm not even going to say scam) start. I was in your thread from day one and have watched your coin so leave the bullshit for the n00bs.

The only reason for these Hype threads now it to try to divert ETH funds to your failed project. Do you think we cannot see that?

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well maybe we should say they should be capable of knowing what they can't safely design and steer clear of those parts. For example, I am afraid to release my Zero Knowledge Transactions until I can afford to have a real cryptographer review it.

And that is why when you do (if ever) release a project, I will trust it will be done on a correct foundation (framework) the first time. Even though you are out of your mind half the time you are a perfectionist and that my friend is something people take note of. Not to mention you have a better grasp of CC than 99.9999% of all the rest of the devs combined. If I ever see you launch a VC Token I'll probably never show up on this site again!

It's open source software "a real cryptographer" is welcome to review it any time they want and there is even a bounty program available.  

It's disgusting the way it is around here.  No credit for the work that he has pioneered in this space because he is not "a real cryptographer".  Maybe you will get to his level one day when you get off these forums and actually make something.

You apparently either do not know or are selectively remembering the gift Shen gave you guys. Do you guys need that info posted in these threads for your recollection to be corrected?

I have no Idea who  shen is so i don't know how i treated him with disrespect, links please or your lying. YOU said I, And now I feel offended because YOU are throwing accusations around about ME so please provide links were I, not anybody else treated this 'Shen' with Disrespect.

Nice try, I did not specifically say you I said you guys as in SDC supporters. If you have no clue what I'm talking about then you are a fool for not researching a coin your trying to shill.

But here is some links for you because I know google is hard to use.

http://bfy.tw/6kpr

[dadon]

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well...For your information until a few months ago we had a cryptographer as a core developer but unfortunately family problems that arose for him made it impossible for him to continue with the project..so we will get a new one, that's why a member of our community started a business to fund the project so we can hire more devs, so thanks for your opinion   take care

I was how you people treated Shen, you had a real chance to have the real deal help you out and your dev team was too uneducated to comprehend what he warned you about and you attacked him. So keep your winks to yourself.

If your community had been intelligent enough to listen to him then you would have had alot of people in your corner even with the shady (I'm not even going to say scam) start. I was in your thread from day one and have watched your coin so leave the bullshit for the n00bs.

The only reason for these Hype threads now it to try to divert ETH funds to your failed project. Do you think we cannot see that?

Non cryptographers should not Develop CryptoCoins, all they end up with are broken virtual tokens ,alot of wasted time/effort and unfulfilled dreams.

Well maybe we should say they should be capable of knowing what they can't safely design and steer clear of those parts. For example, I am afraid to release my Zero Knowledge Transactions until I can afford to have a real cryptographer review it.

And that is why when you do (if ever) release a project, I will trust it will be done on a correct foundation (framework) the first time. Even though you are out of your mind half the time you are a perfectionist and that my friend is something people take note of. Not to mention you have a better grasp of CC than 99.9999% of all the rest of the devs combined. If I ever see you launch a VC Token I'll probably never show up on this site again!

It's open source software "a real cryptographer" is welcome to review it any time they want and there is even a bounty program available.  

It's disgusting the way it is around here.  No credit for the work that he has pioneered in this space because he is not "a real cryptographer".  Maybe you will get to his level one day when you get off these forums and actually make something.

You apparently either do not know or are selectively remembering the gift Shen gave you guys. Do you guys need that info posted in these threads for your recollection to be corrected?

I have no Idea who  shen is so i don't know how i treated him with disrespect, links please or your lying. YOU said I, And now I feel offended because YOU are throwing accusations around about ME so please provide links were I, not anybody else treated this 'Shen' with Disrespect.

Nice try, I did not specifically say you I said you guys as in SDC supporters. If you have no clue what I'm talking about then you are a fool for not researching a coin your trying to shill.

But here is some links for you because I know google is hard to use.

http://bfy.tw/6kpr

How am i trying to shill anything i made a thread about rhynos first interview and you come here trolling my thread...but it's okay im a fair person im not going to censor your comments or pretend like shadow is perfect and so is it's dev team.
I relise shadow project isn't perfect, and we made some errors in the past like the bug and yeah we have some hot heads among us, including myself at times, yeah we human, yeah we tired of getting attacked, yeah we over re-act quickly, yeah we hated here on this forum, yeah we wish we weren't.
But at least we tried to develop a fair and truly open source project, we can honestly say we never ripped anyone off, or scammed anyone, so im ok with that our dignity is intact, there are some really really great people in the shadow community including RHYNO!! who is a top bloke, i know him well and he is considered a friend... You should stop painting the whole community with same brush because of a few bad apples, who for your information, dumped shadow and left when they development wasn't going as quickly as they wanted to make money.