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July 15, 2016, 12:18:41 AM
Last edit: July 15, 2016, 02:43:00 AM by tokeweed
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Date: Saturday, July 23rd
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass): 1pm PST / 4pm EST
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1): 3pm PST / 6pm EST
Main Card (FOX): 5pm PST / 8pm EST
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Main Card (FOX)

Holly Holm (10-1) vs. Valentina Shevchenko (12-2) (Women's Bantamweight)
Edson Barboza (17-4) vs. Gilbert Melendez (22-5) (Lightweight)
Francis Ngannou (7-1) vs. Bojan Mihajlovic (10-3) (Heavyweight)
Felice Herrig (10-6) vs. Kailin Curran (4-2) (Women's Strawweight)

Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)

Frankie Saenz (11-3) vs. Eddie Wineland (21-11-1) (Bantamweight)
Alex Oliveira (13-4-1) vs. James Moontasri (9-3) (Welterweight)
Darren Elkins (20-5) vs. Godofredo Pepey (12-3) (Featherweight)
Kamaru Usman (7-1) vs. Alexander Yakovlev (23-6-1) (Welterweight)

Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)

Michel Prazeres (19-2) vs. J.C. Cottrell (17-3) (Lightweight)
Hector Urbina (17-9-1) vs. George Sullivan (17-5) (Welterweight)
Jim Alers (13-2) vs. Jason Knight (13-2) (Featherweight)
Luis Henrique (8-2) vs. Dmitry Smolyakov (8-0) (Heavyweight)

Other

- Ryan LaFlare was expected to face Alexander Yakovlev at the event. However, LaFlare was removed from the fight in early June after sustaining an undisclosed injury and replaced by The Ultimate Fighter: American Top Team vs. Blackzilians winner Kamaru Usman.

- Tony Martin was expected to face Michel Prazeres at the event. However, Martin pulled out on July 6 due to a neck injury and was replaced by promotional newcomer J.C. Cottrell.

Thanks to user PuertoRican for letting me use this content.

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July 15, 2016, 05:11:21 AM
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Interested to see Holm fight after the loss. She got caught late vs tate and I thought she was winning. Some in her camp said with all the
attention after the rousey fight she didnt train that great and her cardio was lacking. Which is why tate was able to get to her late. Hopefully
holm looks good so we get that rousey rematch.



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July 15, 2016, 05:20:39 AM
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Interested to see Holm fight after the loss. She got caught late vs tate and I thought she was winning. Some in her camp said with all the
attention after the rousey fight she didnt train that great and her cardio was lacking. Which is why tate was able to get to her late. Hopefully
holm looks good so we get that rousey rematch.

I'm sure Holm will win on that match versus Shevchenko. Her lose versus tate is very lucky imo, because Tate take down holm and as you can see, Tate lose her belt easily 3 days ago.
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how the hell is barboza and melendez not the main event
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July 15, 2016, 05:30:15 AM
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my friend told me that holm will gonna win. but the odds on betting her is too low. thats why i make gamble for her opponent. you will never know what is the result until the match end. haha

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July 15, 2016, 10:13:00 AM
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Interested to see Holm fight after the loss. She got caught late vs tate and I thought she was winning. Some in her camp said with all the
attention after the rousey fight she didnt train that great and her cardio was lacking. Which is why tate was able to get to her late. Hopefully
holm looks good so we get that rousey rematch.

Yeah, I think we'll see a uber motivated Holm coming out of this match.  After being beat by Tate like that in the last fight I'd imagine she's itching to get back in the octagon and take back what she lost asap.  Her opponent is also coming off from a loss vs Amanda Nunes of all people.

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July 15, 2016, 10:38:26 AM
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how the hell is barboza and melendez not the main event

barboza and melendez I believe was upgraded to a "co-main event"

melendez has lost a couple in a row and looks pretty crappy. He also
failed a drug text and sat out like a year. Could be why he took the drugs
was cause he was losing badly in the octagon, so he was trying to get
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July 16, 2016, 01:36:20 AM
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my friend told me that holm will gonna win. but the odds on betting her is too low. thats why i make gamble for her opponent. you will never know what is the result until the match end. haha
Well, anything could happen.
But Holm has one big advantage over Shevchenko (or over any right-handed fighter, to be honest) and it is her Southpaw stance.
Which can be problematic to deal with for fighters experienced in fights vs. primarily  right handed opponents.
Personally, I won't place a bet on this fight.
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yeah for the reasons you just named Its holm or nothing for me. Holm stylisticly is just a bad match up for shevchecnko. Of course anything can happen but its holm
or no bet for me.



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July 18, 2016, 09:53:44 AM
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This will be a good fight but Valentina Shevchenko is the real thing ! Can Holm manage her Muay Thai skill with his kickboxing? Hopefully she improved a lot from his lose to Ronda Rousey.

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July 18, 2016, 10:25:27 AM
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Just posting some videos.  Can't wait to watch the event.  Didn't realize it until now that this card is decent.

Fight Night Chicago Road to the Octagon: Holm vs Shevchenko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWQLIJjWsXk

Fight Night Chicago Road to the Octagon: Melendez vs Barboza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqx3elXpJo8

Fight Night Chicago Road to the Octagon: Curran vs Herrig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2YWpAa39t0

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July 18, 2016, 10:47:27 AM
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I know anything could happen. But I'll take Holm in this match. She's a beast in octagon.

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July 18, 2016, 10:54:32 AM
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I know anything could happen. But I'll take Holm in this match. She's a beast in octagon.

I probably say yes that Holm is a beast but it depends when both fighters in the octagon will clash with their own styles. I'm still thinking which side should I bet my on Valentina Shevchenko (Bullet) or Holly Holm(The Preacher's Daughter). 

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July 18, 2016, 11:05:24 AM
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Odds are not out yet for all the fights just the main event.
 Holly Holm (10-1) vs. Valentina Shevchenko (12-2) (Women's Bantamweight)
I will take Valentina here as the underdog. She has as good or better striking, she will have to get around Holms sidekick that she uses well to keep people at distance. Valentina also has an advantage in clinch and on the ground imo.

Edson Barboza (17-4) vs. Gilbert Melendez (22-5) (Lightweight)
Good matchup depending on the odds Ill take Barboza with + money or -100. I would think about Melendez if he is at good + money.

Felice Herrig (10-6) vs. Kailin Curran (4-2) (Women's Strawweight)
Going to rewatch some of Curran´s fights, and come up with a pick here. I dont have a lot of confidence in Herrig who has not looked great in the octagon. Ok striking and ok wresling, nothing amazing. Prob go with an underdog cards no bet option.

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July 19, 2016, 08:54:08 AM
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I'll go for Holly Holm on this fight. Holm is hungry for a win and needs to prove something to the UFC management that she is ready for another title fight. We might see a submission or a KO on the first 2 rounds but I guess a title fight for Holm is still far from reality because UFC management already have someone in mind regardless if Holm wins.
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July 19, 2016, 11:41:59 AM
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I really like holm here but the odds are to high to bet straight so
im going to go with a parlay

Seeing some big value on Matt brown against ellenberger , I think Browns
going to really take control in the middle of the fight and grind him out. Browns a
a beast in there and seems like ellenbergers a shell of his former self for sure.

I think parlaying Brown with Holm is a solid parlay

Pending 23 July 6:45pmMixed Martial Arts - UFCHolly Holm v Valentina ShevchenkoFight: Holly Holm ML-311
Pending 30 July 8:15pmMixed Martial Arts - UFCMatt Brown v Jake EllenbergerFight: Matt Brown ML-254
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July 19, 2016, 03:39:13 PM
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That looks good.  You just gave me an idea.  What do you think of parlaying Holm and Barboza @ 1.93?  Those are two solid favorites in this card.  

Holm, in my opinion, will be more motivated than ever coming in this fight especially after that bad beat vs Tate.  Shevchenko has nothing on Holm except for when she goes for the clinch.  But we saw what happened when Rousey tried that strategy.  

Barboza is looking good, still progressing fight after fight and going for that title challenge.  He has a future ahead of him.  Melendez, one of my favorite fighters, what can I say?  It's so sad to see him fighting to make himself still relevant in the sport.  Coming out with two back to back losses and one year suspension plus a sticter USADA, I just can't see him win vs Barboza.  The odds are stacked against him.

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Holly Holm  vs.  Valentina Shevchenko  => 1
Edson Barboza  vs.  Gilbert Melendez    => 2
Felice Herrig     vs.  Kailin Curran         => 1
Hector Urbina   vs.  George Sullivan      => 2
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