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July 24, 2016, 10:53:52 PM
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Shevchenko looked great


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July 25, 2016, 12:33:01 AM
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Holly Holm  vs  Valentina Shevchenko => bet for Holly Holm
Edson Barboza  vs.  Gilbert Melendez => bet for Edson Barboza
Hector Urbina  vs.  George Sullivan   => bet for George Sullivan
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July 25, 2016, 03:36:07 AM
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WOW I'm shocked Holm had zero heart

she was clearly losing and her corner even was telling her she had to
make something happen and she continued to do nothing. The worst part
is Shevchenko didn't look good either so UFC loses big time. If holm wins they
get rousey holm 2 and now they get nothing cause why would you pay big money
to see rousey vs a fluke winner like holm who has lost 2 in a row. Sad outcome for
my wallet and for the ufc.

It was as if she was scared to get to boxing range and do her stuff, hiding the kick behind the punches.  I think she was cautious of getting too close because Shev is just too dangerous in the clinch.

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July 25, 2016, 05:32:54 AM
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WOW I'm shocked Holm had zero heart

she was clearly losing and her corner even was telling her she had to
make something happen and she continued to do nothing. The worst part
is Shevchenko didn't look good either so UFC loses big time. If holm wins they
get rousey holm 2 and now they get nothing cause why would you pay big money
to see rousey vs a fluke winner like holm who has lost 2 in a row. Sad outcome for
my wallet and for the ufc.

Yeah, it's like Holm not even try on this match. Since i saw her face before fight, i already know Holm will be lose, luckly i'm skip on this match.
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July 25, 2016, 06:00:35 AM
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WOW I'm shocked Holm had zero heart

she was clearly losing and her corner even was telling her she had to
make something happen and she continued to do nothing. The worst part
is Shevchenko didn't look good either so UFC loses big time. If holm wins they
get rousey holm 2 and now they get nothing cause why would you pay big money
to see rousey vs a fluke winner like holm who has lost 2 in a row. Sad outcome for
my wallet and for the ufc.

It was as if she was scared to get to boxing range and do her stuff, hiding the kick behind the punches.  I think she was cautious of getting too close because Shev is just too dangerous in the clinch.
I agree that she doesnt want to get close or engage in a close fight as it may end up submission like what happened with her fight with Tate. Looks like she doesn't want to get close, doesn't want to box but wanted a good opening opportunity to knock Shevchenko out cold but it didn't happen.
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July 25, 2016, 07:06:01 AM
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Yes! I knew Valentina would win. She is really the better fighter compared to Holm. Valentina is a little smaller but is thicker compared to her. Now it would be nice to follow her future fights because she will be on the road to a rematch versus Amanda Nunez for the championship belt.

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July 25, 2016, 07:47:43 AM
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Holly Holms is my favorite. Hopefully she won that fight so she and Ronda Rousey have a rematch. I have never watch any Schevchenko fights but she seems very strong. Holms should be careful defending herself. Holms is good at range fight, just like she did from Rousey. She made that fight easy. She must be careful on takedown cause she has no advatange on that.
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July 25, 2016, 07:56:23 AM
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Holly Holms is my favorite. Hopefully she won that fight so she and Ronda Rousey have a rematch. I have never watch any Schevchenko fights but she seems very strong. Holms should be careful defending herself. Holms is good at range fight, just like she did from Rousey. She made that fight easy. She must be careful on takedown cause she has no advatange on that.
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Both fighter looks good prior to the match but after the match Schevchenko look very confident that her name will be called out.
Having lost twice in a row Holly Holms admitted that she is not in the position to call out Rousey but watching the fight for the 2nd time on TV Holly Holms looks like she is tired and not ready for a stand up fight with Schevchenko. is this another one of those who will complain about to much promotional tour?

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July 25, 2016, 10:36:25 AM
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Of course the ufc is going to have her win, the way the ufc is going with the past ppv's and free shows they have it to where she will win. She's a one hit wonder, i truly believe ufc had it to where Ronda was to lose due to out of the octagon commitments. I will not watch it or any other ppv's or free ones.
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July 25, 2016, 01:00:04 PM
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Holly Holms is my favorite. Hopefully she won that fight so she and Ronda Rousey have a rematch. I have never watch any Schevchenko fights but she seems very strong. Holms should be careful defending herself. Holms is good at range fight, just like she did from Rousey. She made that fight easy. She must be careful on takedown cause she has no advatange on that.

With how things went out in her career, it would be near impossible for that rematch to happen and at the same time draw a lot of people as it did in their first fight.  I'm really disappointed in how Holm's decisions on who and when to fight.  It could be both her and her manager's fault.  But more fault on her manager.  He should be advicing her on what fights are good and what to avoid.  Her last two fights wasn't worth the reward in the risk:reward ratio.

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July 25, 2016, 01:51:05 PM
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It's unfortunate that Holm lost, I think she is the better fight but she had a bad night. She gave Rousey a good beating so we can't underrate her. Of course if she fails a third time then it's time to start doubting fo real.
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July 26, 2016, 05:24:30 AM
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Good fight. I thought Holm may have pulled it off 3-2. I know Holm coaches will correct you for the next fight. Holm usually double jab (or multi-punch) way in before kicking to get close. Holm knocked the wind out of her in the last round I thought Holm was going to jump on her. When Holm had her up against the cage, more knees to the stomach and elbows.
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It's unfortunate that Holm lost, I think she is the better fight but she had a bad night. She gave Rousey a good beating so we can't underrate her. Of course if she fails a third time then it's time to start doubting fo real.

Yes. For Holm it would be better for her to have 1 or 2 easy fights before she continues for the quest for the belt. She is already drained mentally having lost two tough match ups in a row. Those were fights she could have won. The first one she made a mistake and got submitted the second one is another mistake for her lack of aggression. Very sad to see.

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July 27, 2016, 03:27:54 AM
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Looks like Ronda Rousey won't ever have to fight Holly again if she ever comes back. The fight showed how good Valentina Shevchenko has become and maybe a future champ.  Shocking the world was probably a bad thing for Holly she is still inexperienced in MMA and had to fight title contenders, hope for the best for her if she comes back again.
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July 27, 2016, 03:46:39 AM
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Looks like Ronda Rousey won't ever have to fight Holly again if she ever comes back. The fight showed how good Valentina Shevchenko has become and maybe a future champ.  Shocking the world was probably a bad thing for Holly she is still inexperienced in MMA and had to fight title contenders, hope for the best for her if she comes back again.

Yes. That rematch will not sell anymore. I think a fight between Shevchenko and Rousey would be better for both fighters if Rousey comes back. With the winner of that fight getting a title fight versus Nunes.

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July 28, 2016, 06:22:22 AM
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Looks like Ronda Rousey won't ever have to fight Holly again if she ever comes back. The fight showed how good Valentina Shevchenko has become and maybe a future champ.  Shocking the world was probably a bad thing for Holly she is still inexperienced in MMA and had to fight title contenders, hope for the best for her if she comes back again.

Yes. That rematch will not sell anymore. I think a fight between Shevchenko and Rousey would be better for both fighters if Rousey comes back. With the winner of that fight getting a title fight versus Nunes.

Well i observed a stereotyped holly. Learn something new cause it ain't working anymore. shenchenko saw it coming! Mma is striking and grappling!!!. i guess her win over rousey made her opponents more observant about her games.
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July 28, 2016, 06:50:14 AM
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Holly Holms is my favorite. Hopefully she won that fight so she and Ronda Rousey have a rematch. I have never watch any Schevchenko fights but she seems very strong. Holms should be careful defending herself. Holms is good at range fight, just like she did from Rousey. She made that fight easy. She must be careful on takedown cause she has no advatange on that.
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The fight is done and Schevchenko won against Holly Holms. Have you been fishing for the past few days?  Grin

Both fighter looks good prior to the match but after the match Schevchenko look very confident that her name will be called out.
Having lost twice in a row Holly Holms admitted that she is not in the position to call out Rousey but watching the fight for the 2nd time on TV Holly Holms looks like she is tired and not ready for a stand up fight with Schevchenko. is this another one of those who will complain about to much promotional tour?


Yep, i have been fishing on that day hahaha. I dont have a time to watch the fight. But Holly Holms is still my favorite. I dont know whats gonna happen on her future coz she lose two consecutive fights. Hope her next fight will be succesful. I want her to have rematch with Ronda Rousey.
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July 28, 2016, 03:27:51 PM
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With how things went out in her career, it would be near impossible for that rematch to happen and at the same time draw a lot of people as it did in their first fight.  I'm really disappointed in how Holm's decisions on who and when to fight.  It could be both her and her manager's fault.  But more fault on her manager.  He should be advicing her on what fights are good and what to avoid.  Her last two fights wasn't worth the reward in the risk:reward ratio.
Having 2 straight loses in your fight career in a game played by only a few is bad and will not give the UFC owners a reason to give her another shot at the title. UFC womens division is very much open to almost everybody now after that loss of huge upset of Rousey. In UFC lately you notice a trend, in the Mens division theres "doping" in the womens division theres an "upset"
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July 28, 2016, 04:14:13 PM
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I think that if none of the girls start a big reign of win streaks the UFC will have a hard time creating an unbeatable type of girl like when Rousey was undefeated. They had this in the HW division with Bones Jon Jones and now that he has tested positive again his legacy is already dead, he will never be that unbeatable guy because he has that aura of a cheater.
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July 28, 2016, 04:19:51 PM
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I think that if none of the girls start a big reign of win streaks the UFC will have a hard time creating an unbeatable type of girl like when Rousey was undefeated. They had this in the HW division with Bones Jon Jones and now that he has tested positive again his legacy is already dead, he will never be that unbeatable guy because he has that aura of a cheater.
I'm beginning to think that when Rousey is on her winning streak the opponents are filtered or selected so that they will gain attention. Rousey is a good choice to promote womens UFC because she has a nice looking face but scary when she looks serious.
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