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July 06, 2014, 06:53:21 PM |
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1.You don't want a treaty that is unfair for Israel, but is this fair to the Palestinians?
2.Also, it should be stated that the wall is illegal under international law, especially considering Israel is the occupying power.
It's a good question, but i think the only way to have peace is to be comprehensive with Israel cause now near of everybody is against them. Israel was attacked by his neighbor many time, fortunately they lose (or all the jews would be killed, for example Nasser in Egypt said "we will cut jews throat !"...). I think they deserve what they have now and we should make a two state solution with the border reality on the ground. And don't forget the Palestinian in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria who have their life there now and still second class citizen... |
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u9y42
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July 06, 2014, 07:03:20 PM |
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It's a good question, but i think the only way to have peace is to be comprehensive with Israel cause now near of everybody is against them. Israel was attacked by his neighbor many time, fortunately they lose (or all the jews would be killed, for example Nasser in Egypt said "we will cut jews throat !"...). I think they deserve what they have now and we should make a two state solution with the border reality on the ground.
And don't forget the Palestinian in Jordan, Lebanon, Syria who have their life there now and still second class citizen...
There you go again... there is no one now that doesn't want peace, except Israel and the US. We can go back in history and we will certainly find plenty of flaws on every side, but that won't help solve the conflict at the moment. And saying that a two state solution should be implemented with the current territory is completely ignoring what I just said about Palestinians being cut off from farmland, water, from access to education and health facilities, places of work, and even each other in some places. Do you even care about them at all? |
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July 06, 2014, 07:09:55 PM |
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1.There you go again... there is no one now that doesn't want peace, except Israel and the US.
2.We can go back in history and we will certainly find plenty of flaws on every side, but that won't help solve the conflict at the moment. And saying that a two state solution should be implemented with the current territory is completely ignoring what I just said about Palestinians being cut off from farmland, water, from access to education and health facilities, places of work, and even each other in some places. Do you even care about them at all?
1.Many Israeli are tired of war and want peace, but they want a fair peace. 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_motive |
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u9y42
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July 06, 2014, 07:25:49 PM |
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1. That's great, but I would suggest securing peace first and foremost, and only then looking to whether or not you're happy with the spoils. The longer that takes, the more people will die for no good reason. 2. Sorry that I had to ask, but you kind of deserved it after your answer; and you are just deflecting the argument with this answer, instead of explaining how you expect Palestinians to survive if your suggestion was implemented. |
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August 05, 2014, 07:55:13 PM |
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On Monday Obama approved to send 225 million dollars in emergency aid to Israel.
This money is to help replenish the rockets they used in their "Iron Dome" defense system.
Do you guys think they will also use some of the money to replace rockets that they shot into Gaza to murder people?
Are you happy to see your tax dollars being spent in appropriate ways?
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August 05, 2014, 07:56:50 PM |
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On Monday Obama approved to send 225 million dollars in emergency aid to Israel.
This money is to help replenish the rockets they used in their "Iron Dome" defense system.
Do you guys think they will also use some of the money to replace rockets that they shot into Gaza to murder people?
Are you happy to see your tax dollars being spent in appropriate ways?
there was an episode on the daily show last week talking about how john kerry was urging a ceasfire (on both sides).. yet we are stocking israel with the weapons they are using to kill palestinians. that's why the U.S. has no right in policing other countries, because we enable them after all. |
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August 05, 2014, 08:16:39 PM |
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On Monday Obama approved to send 225 million dollars in emergency aid to Israel.
This money is to help replenish the rockets they used in their "Iron Dome" defense system.
Do you guys think they will also use some of the money to replace rockets that they shot into Gaza to murder people?
Are you happy to see your tax dollars being spent in appropriate ways?
there was an episode on the daily show last week talking about how john kerry was urging a ceasfire (on both sides).. yet we are stocking israel with the weapons they are using to kill palestinians. that's why the U.S. has no right in policing other countries, because we enable them after all. Its mind blowing how the idiot public in the US allow this to happen. Its too bad that there isnt a law stating that: Every politician has to have an immediate family member in active combat on the ground, if said politician votes on supportive war initiatives. Lets see how fast the chicken hawks in Washington would vote for war then. Its easy to gamble with someone elses money... |
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August 05, 2014, 08:23:58 PM |
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On Monday Obama approved to send 225 million dollars in emergency aid to Israel.
This money is to help replenish the rockets they used in their "Iron Dome" defense system.
Do you guys think they will also use some of the money to replace rockets that they shot into Gaza to murder people?
Are you happy to see your tax dollars being spent in appropriate ways?
there was an episode on the daily show last week talking about how john kerry was urging a ceasfire (on both sides).. yet we are stocking israel with the weapons they are using to kill palestinians. that's why the U.S. has no right in policing other countries, because we enable them after all. Its mind blowing how the idiot public in the US allow this to happen. Its too bad that there isnt a law stating that: Every politician has to have an immediate family member in active combat on the ground, if said politician votes on supportive war initiatives. Lets see how fast the chicken hawks in Washington would vote for war then. Its easy to gamble with someone elses money... i don't think politics is as simple as that. it's not just because the american public is stupid; it's because politics has obfuscated information, making the public less informed because shit is confusing. on top of that, there's so much entertainment/information being spread around that it's hard to keep abreast on all the topics, especially when you are working full time. |
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August 05, 2014, 11:49:43 PM |
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On Monday Obama approved to send 225 million dollars in emergency aid to Israel.
This money is to help replenish the rockets they used in their "Iron Dome" defense system.
Do you guys think they will also use some of the money to replace rockets that they shot into Gaza to murder people?
Are you happy to see your tax dollars being spent in appropriate ways?
there was an episode on the daily show last week talking about how john kerry was urging a ceasfire (on both sides).. yet we are stocking israel with the weapons they are using to kill palestinians. that's why the U.S. has no right in policing other countries, because we enable them after all. The Obama administration also banned flights to Israel as an attempt to strong-arm Israel into agreeing to a cease fire. |
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August 05, 2014, 11:53:56 PM |
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On Monday Obama approved to send 225 million dollars in emergency aid to Israel.
This money is to help replenish the rockets they used in their "Iron Dome" defense system.
Do you guys think they will also use some of the money to replace rockets that they shot into Gaza to murder people?
Are you happy to see your tax dollars being spent in appropriate ways?
there was an episode on the daily show last week talking about how john kerry was urging a ceasfire (on both sides).. yet we are stocking israel with the weapons they are using to kill palestinians. that's why the U.S. has no right in policing other countries, because we enable them after all. The Obama administration also banned flights to Israel as an attempt to strong-arm Israel into agreeing to a cease fire. They can ban flights just like that?  |
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I would only add that supporting the crimes against humanity that Israel commits on a daily and global regularity is unacceptable to most thinking people everywhere.
Of course this would necessitate being aware of what is going on..... many are unaware of reality there, and basing their opinions on misinformation and a lack of accurate information.
Ha! "many are unaware of reality there, and basing their opinions on misinformation and a lack of accurate information." This accurately depicts you, clearly. Israel is is a beacon of light in a dark part of the world and helps the Palestinians more than anyone else, the cause of the Palestinian suffering is Hamas and their own hatred |
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