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July 22, 2016, 01:32:20 PM
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Hello everyone, I am coming back from a one week ban! For some reasons I was banned for one week as topic is saying, but I am really thinking it is not a fair movement! Without any notification, alert and reason, the posts that I provided were replied with many users suggesting that I am not spam, how can I uproot the reasons they made me like this, I hope the admins who made this be responsible, bitcointalk is a forum and the most important asset is the users, so I hope tell us why we are banned!

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July 22, 2016, 01:35:06 PM
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Your current post history seems to consist of many one-liners, which often occur in the spam megathreads of recycled content. If you think that is acceptable behavior, then why didn't you follow the same format in this thread? It seems like this thread is the only one longer than one line in over 6 pages!

But: what were you banned for?

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Last edit: July 22, 2016, 01:48:53 PM by expert4knowledge
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Your current post history seems to consist of many one-liners, which often occur in the spam megathreads of recycled content. If you think that is acceptable behavior, then why didn't you follow the same format in this thread? It seems like this thread is the only one longer than one line in over 6 pages!
Thanks from your response, first in this thread I have to provide enough information so it took me more than one line, second how can we conclude that one line post is spam? Third if you look many similar posts are one line in those threads but we know they are not all spams, you can check my post and if they are spam so how some other users provide responses to them?

Also they told me posting spam  was the reason, I really like to follow up it exactly and I appreciate if one can help me on it.

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July 22, 2016, 01:38:30 PM
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[...]I hope the admins who made this be responsible [...]!
It's not the admins being responsible for you getting banned, it's not even the mods, and certainly not the mod who bans you.
Wanna know who is responsible? You are. It's entirely your fault, if you're banned for a reason. In case you don't like it, change your posting habits.
Crap all over the forum and the forum craps back at you...

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July 22, 2016, 01:41:33 PM
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[...]I hope the admins who made this be responsible [...]!
It's not the admins being responsible for you getting banned, it's not even the mods, and certainly not the mod who bans you.
Wanna know who is responsible? You are. It's entirely your fault, if you're banned for a reason. In case you don't like it, change your posting habits.
Crap all over the forum and the forum craps back at you...
I obey the rules of the forum, but the people who banned me are capable to make a mistake like any other human, specially when there is not an exact algorithm for being spam quantitatively and without pre-notification.

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July 22, 2016, 01:56:18 PM
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second how can we conclude that one line post is spam?



Do you think that people increase their buying? I was expecting they buy during halving.
This is constructive? I understand you're asking a probing question but what substance does it have?

No I do not believe that the Bitcoin is ever going to replace money because there are to many currencies for that to happen maybe Bitcoin will take over one currency from a certain country.
Even that is hard to believe that it will happen, Bitcoin has to just stay a crypto currency.
I think bitcoin neither becomes a currency and can replace money nor it can be used in a country as a currency sine it is very unstable and has n supporter.
First point of your sentence is recycled content, and the second point of your sentence has already been stated dozens of times in the thread before. Why is that valuable to the discussion now?

I am thinking it will be a continuous rise, can't see a drop. It has been way too quiet lately and we are approaching the halving.
The halving is going to come pretty soon now and I believe that the price is going to rise after the halving but I am not sure about that.
If the price is going to drop that is also good because then I can buy again.
The Bitcoin is always going to rise again that is just how it goes but right now the price is a bit stable because the halving is coming.
I think that the price is going to rise again after the halving but I am not sure so do not quote me on it.
Did you searched about bitcoin? I think you came after a longer period as the halving has already taken place but no we are waiting for the effects of halving and we sure that sooner the effects will start and the price of bitcoin will increase to higher value.

yeah, the effects are coming and will come sooner and at that time we believe that the price of bitcoin will increase as the time is not long away when the supply will be slower and the demand will be constant or will increase and we will taste the increased price of bitcoin.
But I strongly hoping that bitcoin price can increase in next months since I was thinking that it decreases after halving but it did not decrease.
Next few months will be really interesting to see what will happen to the price of bitcoin, every one is hoping for price increase, lest hope bitcoin moves in a positive direction.
Yes, you quoted the quotes. But... where's your reply?

Gold is more only investment meaning that you cannot do deals the way we do with bitcoin such as buy from online shops but gold is more stable and riskless.
Again, megathread. Replies have already been stated scores and scores of times.

Yes, for current state of bitcoin it is good to be unstable but maybe after more popularity stability helps it more.
Same as above.

Maybe for many of users if we want to rank factors that they like about bitcoin, freedom and convenience ranked first.
Same as above.

i think at least 80 per cent of people will be using bitcoins by 2020 because it will surely be much more popular then
I think you are super optimistic about bitcoin and such events may not happen easily even in 2025 or 2030.
Need I say more?




Third if you look many similar posts are one line in those threads but we know they are not all spams, you can check my post and if they are spam so how some other users provide responses to them?



People can reply with quotes, but they too are spammers. Is getting a reply from someone who only uses your content as a base really leading a discussion? No. In reality, it's just an aimless cesspool of repeated, mindless and insignificant replies.



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You continue?

The current price of Bitcoin this pass few weeks until now is currently almost stable . But i think after a few more weeks or few months price of  Bitcoin will start increasing again. This is a good time for the traders.
I agree that bitcoin price was stable for some weeks after halving but since the sellers increased we can expect another increasing of price.

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second how can we conclude that one line post is spam?



Do you think that people increase their buying? I was expecting they buy during halving.
This is constructive? I understand you're asking a probing question but what substance does it have?

No I do not believe that the Bitcoin is ever going to replace money because there are to many currencies for that to happen maybe Bitcoin will take over one currency from a certain country.
Even that is hard to believe that it will happen, Bitcoin has to just stay a crypto currency.
I think bitcoin neither becomes a currency and can replace money nor it can be used in a country as a currency sine it is very unstable and has n supporter.
First point of your sentence is recycled content, and the second point of your sentence has already been stated dozens of times in the thread before. Why is that valuable to the discussion now?

I am thinking it will be a continuous rise, can't see a drop. It has been way too quiet lately and we are approaching the halving.
The halving is going to come pretty soon now and I believe that the price is going to rise after the halving but I am not sure about that.
If the price is going to drop that is also good because then I can buy again.
The Bitcoin is always going to rise again that is just how it goes but right now the price is a bit stable because the halving is coming.
I think that the price is going to rise again after the halving but I am not sure so do not quote me on it.
Did you searched about bitcoin? I think you came after a longer period as the halving has already taken place but no we are waiting for the effects of halving and we sure that sooner the effects will start and the price of bitcoin will increase to higher value.

yeah, the effects are coming and will come sooner and at that time we believe that the price of bitcoin will increase as the time is not long away when the supply will be slower and the demand will be constant or will increase and we will taste the increased price of bitcoin.
But I strongly hoping that bitcoin price can increase in next months since I was thinking that it decreases after halving but it did not decrease.
Next few months will be really interesting to see what will happen to the price of bitcoin, every one is hoping for price increase, lest hope bitcoin moves in a positive direction.
Yes, you quoted the quotes. But... where's your reply?

Gold is more only investment meaning that you cannot do deals the way we do with bitcoin such as buy from online shops but gold is more stable and riskless.
Again, megathread. Replies have already been stated scores and scores of times.

Yes, for current state of bitcoin it is good to be unstable but maybe after more popularity stability helps it more.
Same as above.

Maybe for many of users if we want to rank factors that they like about bitcoin, freedom and convenience ranked first.
Same as above.

i think at least 80 per cent of people will be using bitcoins by 2020 because it will surely be much more popular then
I think you are super optimistic about bitcoin and such events may not happen easily even in 2025 or 2030.
Need I say more?




Third if you look many similar posts are one line in those threads but we know they are not all spams, you can check my post and if they are spam so how some other users provide responses to them?



People can reply with quotes, but they too are spammers. Is getting a reply from someone who only uses your content as a base really leading a discussion? No. In reality, it's just an aimless cesspool of repeated, mindless and insignificant replies.



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You continue?

The current price of Bitcoin this pass few weeks until now is currently almost stable . But i think after a few more weeks or few months price of  Bitcoin will start increasing again. This is a good time for the traders.
I agree that bitcoin price was stable for some weeks after halving but since the sellers increased we can expect another increasing of price.
First and again, thanks for your time. But two things, I provided answers to people who asked a question that was answered in previous pages but they did not read it, so if I am spam they are super spam. About the one that I quoted a quote it was my mistake since it does not have any advantage for me but it happened once and I such posts have any type of advantage for me.Second if you look at many threads that have 100 pages,  how can you expect that all of those posts have information on them, there is one informative post and some questions answers about it.
Bitcointalk is not a dictatorship and so everyone must take care to keep here good place but people who makes others spam are responsible for their tasks. If the criteria is what you have mentioned much  more people must be banned and we expect a fair behaviour, specially when the rules does not seem clear.

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July 22, 2016, 02:33:06 PM
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The ban is your warning. You're lucky it was only a week. You just real off a constant stream of hollow one liners as quickly as possible and move on to the next thread because that's the minimum amount of effort you need to put in to get paid. Others posting one line of shit doesn't make it ok for you to do so either and many others are banned for such behaviour, though most don't have the audacity to publicly complain about being banned for shitposting and just learn from their mistakes.

It seems like this thread is the only one longer than one line in over 6 pages!


Ironic, isn't it? I've lost count of how many times I've only seen spammers write more than a sentence or two when they're complaning and arguing about their bans.

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July 22, 2016, 02:41:39 PM
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Spam is like pornography.  It's hard to define exactly what it is, but you know it when you see it. 

You started this thread wondering why you got banned, right?  I realize you don't like the answers you're being given, but maybe you should just shut up and listen to those answers.  They're on the money.

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July 22, 2016, 02:48:36 PM
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Your current post history seems to consist of many one-liners, which often occur in the spam megathreads of recycled content. If you think that is acceptable behavior, then why didn't you follow the same format in this thread? It seems like this thread is the only one longer than one line in over 6 pages!

But: what were you banned for?


Bro. One liner post is not a spam if it is related to the topic. Spam post means your post is not relevant to the topic.even if you post a long paragraph but it is no sense. Thats spam. I think maybe the admin should make a rules about spamming. Because many is misunderstanding it. All the post in this forum is very long and it sucks because it can be answerable by short sentence. Yobit sig campaign is the root of these. Hahahha
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July 22, 2016, 02:59:29 PM
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The ban is your warning. You're lucky it was only a week. You just real off a constant stream of hollow one liners as quickly as possible and move on to the next thread because that's the minimum amount of effort you need to put in to get paid. Others posting one line of shit doesn't make it ok for you to do so either and many others are banned for such behaviour, though most don't have the audacity to publicly complain about being banned for shitposting and just learn from their mistakes.

It seems like this thread is the only one longer than one line in over 6 pages!


Ironic, isn't it? I've lost count of how many times I've only seen spammers write more than a sentence or two when they're complaning and arguing about their bans.
Is one-line post a real spam? Is int it better that the moderators... define it? I have never saw that the spam is one line post. However I try to increase number of characters while posting although I did not see any place in terms and conditions that we should not post on-line posts continuously.

To pharmacist: I do not like non-logical responses. So please shut up.
Edit: Just for your information, I appreciate responses of actmyname which were more informative, more acceptable with more proof and more organized compared to your response.

grim007: I agree with you.

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July 22, 2016, 03:08:38 PM
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The ban is your warning. You're lucky it was only a week. You just real off a constant stream of hollow one liners as quickly as possible and move on to the next thread because that's the minimum amount of effort you need to put in to get paid. Others posting one line of shit doesn't make it ok for you to do so either and many others are banned for such behaviour, though most don't have the audacity to publicly complain about being banned for shitposting and just learn from their mistakes.

It seems like this thread is the only one longer than one line in over 6 pages!


Ironic, isn't it? I've lost count of how many times I've only seen spammers write more than a sentence or two when they're complaning and arguing about their bans.
Is one-line post a real spam? Is int it better that the moderators... define it? I have never saw that the spam is one line post.

To pharmacist: I do not like non-logical responses. So please shut up.

grim007: I agree with you.
You're in no position to tell anyone to shut up, bro.  This is part of your problem.  You're looking for answers you want to hear instead of taking suggestions that might make it easier on you.  You don't like or are not good at reading or writing,  so maybe a discussion forum isn't the best place for you to earn money.  If you find that illogical, I can't help you.

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July 22, 2016, 03:11:05 PM
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The ban is your warning. You're lucky it was only a week. You just real off a constant stream of hollow one liners as quickly as possible and move on to the next thread because that's the minimum amount of effort you need to put in to get paid. Others posting one line of shit doesn't make it ok for you to do so either and many others are banned for such behaviour, though most don't have the audacity to publicly complain about being banned for shitposting and just learn from their mistakes.

It seems like this thread is the only one longer than one line in over 6 pages!


Ironic, isn't it? I've lost count of how many times I've only seen spammers write more than a sentence or two when they're complaning and arguing about their bans.
Is one-line post a real spam? Is int it better that the moderators... define it? I have never saw that the spam is one line post.

To pharmacist: I do not like non-logical responses. So please shut up.

grim007: I agree with you.
You're in no position to tell anyone to shut up, bro.  This is part of your problem.  You're looking for answers you want to hear instead of taking suggestions that might make it easier on you.  You don't like or are not good at reading or writing,  so maybe a discussion forum isn't the best place for you to earn money.  If you find that illogical, I can't help you.
But you first used the word shut-up here, I never like to tell this to you and/or any other person. Just wanted to post similar what you used.

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July 22, 2016, 03:54:38 PM
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Is one-line post a real spam? Is int it better that the moderators... define it? I have never saw that the spam is one line post. However I try to increase number of characters while posting although I did not see any place in terms and conditions that we should not post on-line posts continuously.

The mods cannot define spam, unfortunately. By its very nature, spam is anything meaningless, irrelevant and/or unsolicited. Since those are, to an extent, subjective, then determining what is spam is itself a subjective endeavor. That is the current system in enforcement -- subjective moderation of spam -- and it really is the only real way to handle it. I think it's enough though, especially in your case. You were really spamming it up.

Here's a good way to determine if you're spamming: if you're only posting for the sake of posting, then you're already spamming. (Someone also already said that before, I think.)

You don't always have to post. Do you know how many times I've wanted to post on one of those superspam threads just to tell all those spammers what massive douchebags they are? Tons. But I don't. I hold my tongue and refuse the urge to post, because that in itself would be spam, in addition to being a hypocritical post. There are also times when I just wanted to "lol" at a post for being witty or likeable, but I can't spam the thread just to do that either. So what I do instead is quote the post and PM the poster. See what happened there? No spam, but I still got to express myself.

One-liners aren't necessarily spam. If someone created a thread to ask for something simple (yet still worth starting a thread for), then you might have to reply with a one-liner for that. In fact, rarely, even a couple of words might suffice. In that case, your post wouldn't be spam. But if someone has already posted the necessary reply before you and you just post it again because you didn't read the whole thread, well, guess what -- you just spammed. And that goes for multiliners as well. And of course, if your post doesn't help benefit (EDIT: 'benefit' has more practical connotations than 'help') anyone who reads it, regardless of how lengthy it is, then you're obviously spamming.

It's all subjective, really. I guess it's like American Idol -- oftentimes, one or two judges might not vote for you to go to Hollywood because of personal preferences, but they are not to blame if you're naturally tone-deaf. Just exercise your common sense.
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July 22, 2016, 04:52:32 PM
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Is one-line post a real spam? Is int it better that the moderators... define it? I have never saw that the spam is one line post. However I try to increase number of characters while posting although I did not see any place in terms and conditions that we should not post on-line posts continuously.

The mods cannot define spam, unfortunately. By its very nature, spam is anything meaningless, irrelevant and/or unsolicited. Since those are, to an extent, subjective, then determining what is spam is itself a subjective endeavor. That is the current system in enforcement -- subjective moderation of spam -- and it really is the only real way to handle it. I think it's enough though, especially in your case. You were really spamming it up.

Here's a good way to determine if you're spamming: if you're only posting for the sake of posting, then you're already spamming. (Someone also already said that before, I think.)

You don't always have to post. Do you know how many times I've wanted to post on one of those superspam threads just to tell all those spammers what massive douchebags they are? Tons. But I don't. I hold my tongue and refuse the urge to post, because that in itself would be spam, in addition to being a hypocritical post. There are also times when I just wanted to "lol" at a post for being witty or likeable, but I can't spam the thread just to do that either. So what I do instead is quote the post and PM the poster. See what happened there? No spam, but I still got to express myself.

One-liners aren't necessarily spam. If someone created a thread to ask for something simple (yet still worth starting a thread for), then you might have to reply with a one-liner for that. In fact, rarely, even a couple of words might suffice. In that case, your post wouldn't be spam. But if someone has already posted the necessary reply before you and you just post it again because you didn't read the whole thread, well, guess what -- you just spammed. And that goes for multiliners as well. And of course, if your post doesn't help benefit (EDIT: 'benefit' has more practical connotations than 'help') anyone who reads it, regardless of how lengthy it is, then you're obviously spamming.

It's all subjective, really. I guess it's like American Idol -- oftentimes, one or two judges might not vote for you to go to Hollywood because of personal preferences, but they are not to blame if you're naturally tone-deaf. Just exercise your common sense.
Thanks a lot for your very good response. I like the word subjective that you used, since I agree and think it is correct since there is not a quantitative criteria and really respect for your comment. I wish all other respondents would be a bit more polite and were like you. I asked two questions but many of people attacked my personality, considered my account as bought account instead of providing a reasonable response.
Edit: I am locking this thread since I think posts here tend to spam. If others like to continue this please send a message to me.

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