Some questions and discussions about spamming.

[expert4knowledge]

I was got banned for one week which I think it is unfair, however I opened this thread to ask your opinion. 1.  what action is spam and what is your definition is of spamming in your opinion and 2. do you know what is considered here spamming? 3. What strategy moderators, admins.. must consider   against spam to stop spamming?

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[xetsr]

Do you read other's replies before posting the same thing posted by 5 others before you? Have you actually contributed?

Are you here to "earn extra btc" or interested in BTC and not just posting to get paid?

These are the type of questions you should ask yourself.

[Ardenyham]

I was got banned for one week which I think it is unfair, however I opened this thread to ask your opinion. 1.  what action is spam and what is your definition is of spamming in your opinion and 2. do you know what is considered here spamming? 3. What strategy moderators, admins.. must consider   against spam to stop spamming?

1: Saying the same thing even someone already stated that is Spamming. Definition of spamming in my opinion is to don't do any thing else in the forum like trade and buy sell but just do post, post, post for get paid.

2: Low quality posts. similar posts to others, repeating same thing constantly. posting illegal and referral links.

3: moderators consider above things I've said.

[expert4knowledge]

Do you read other's replies before posting the same thing posted by 5 others before you? Have you actually contributed?

Are you here to "earn extra btc" or interested in BTC and not just posting to get paid?

These are the type of questions you should ask yourself.

I think number of people whose their intention is earning extra btc is very much here, but when a topic has 80 pages we can expect that most of people are spamming there so why moderators,admins,.. are responsible for closing a topic. Also I think the admins at least must warn once before banning an account and define some rules for those posts.

Also in response to ardenyham:
About your response to 1 and 2, I am not sure or I expect to see more responses to get better result but about your response to 3, they are not doing the same with all people which seems unfair or it is because of lack of unified standard.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

You opened one thread to complain about your ban for spamming and this one to ask what spamming is.  And you're not listening to any of the replies.

You're a hero member yet you seem like a total noob.  When did you buy this account?

The bottom line is this:  your post quality isn't acceptable.   Make it better or GTFO.  Your English is hard to understand as well and that makes it so much worse.

[expert4knowledge]

You opened one thread to complain about your ban for spamming and this one to ask what spamming is.  And you're not listening to any of the replies.

You're a hero member yet you seem like a total noob.  When did you buy this account?

The bottom line is this:  your post quality isn't acceptable.   Make it better or GTFO.  Your English is hard to understand as well and that makes it so much worse.

I think such comments which are full of scorn must be considered spam, how can you prove that I bought this account?

Edit: Your post is also off-topic and instead of answering to questions you are talking to me and providing comments similar to ones that you providing in other thread.

[hilariousandco]

I was got banned for one week which I think it is unfair, however I opened this thread to ask your opinion. 1.  what action is spam and what is your definition is of spamming in your opinion and 2. do you know what is considered here spamming? 3. What strategy moderators, admins.. must consider   against spam to stop spamming?

You might think it's unfair but notice how nobody else did in the other thread you created? Every single person so far has said your posts are poor one-liners. I'd just swallow your pride and learn from your mistakes, but there is no magic definition of what spam is, but when your entire posting history is one line of half-assed rubbish it's pretty clear what's going on and others as well as Staff are likely going to see you as a spammer. A good poster would have posts ranging from one word to one sentence to a paragraph and more. Why don't you have any posts other than a sentence? I'll tell you why: Your posts aren't one word because you wont get paid for those ones, so you make sure to write a 75+ character sentence to get paid by Bitmixer and to appear constructive, and why would you ever write more than a sentence or a paragraph when you're not going to get paid for the extra effort? You find a thread, write a hollow sentence with the bare amount of effort and that's it. If you want examples of what a good, constructive poster is compare your posts to Shorena or Quickseller's to name a couple. See the difference?

Also, another trait of lazy spammers is creating new threads to ask the same question that has been asked numerous times. You didn't even take the time to search or bother reading because there's already two threads on this very topic on the first page of Meta alone:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1560808.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559444.0

Also I think the admins at least must warn once before banning an account and define some rules for those posts.

The ban is your warning.

[Gahs]

You are lucky you didn't get a permanent ban. Lots of people in signature campaigns who are caught spamming get kicked out in no time, at least you have a second chance.

[expert4knowledge]

I was got banned for one week which I think it is unfair, however I opened this thread to ask your opinion. 1.  what action is spam and what is your definition is of spamming in your opinion and 2. do you know what is considered here spamming? 3. What strategy moderators, admins.. must consider   against spam to stop spamming?

You might think it's unfair but notice how nobody else did in the other thread you created? Every single person so far has said your posts are poor one-liners. I'd just swallow your pride and learn from your mistakes, but there is no magic definition of what spam is, but when your entire posting history is one line of half-assed rubbish it's pretty clear what's going on and others as well as Staff are likely going to see you as a spammer. A good poster would have posts ranging from one word to one sentence to a paragraph and more. Why don't you have any posts other than a sentence? I'll tell you why: Your posts aren't one word because you wont get paid for those ones, so you make sure to write a 75+ character sentence to get paid by Bitmixer and to appear constructive, and why would you ever write more than a sentence or a paragraph when you're not going to get paid for the extra effort? You find a thread, write a hollow sentence with the bare amount of effort and that's it. If you want examples of what a good, constructive poster is compare your posts to Shorena or Quickseller's to name a couple. See the difference?

Also, another trait of lazy spammers is creating new threads to ask the same question that has been asked numerous times. You didn't even take the time to search or bother reading because there's already two threads on this very topic on the first page of Meta alone:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1560808.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1559444.0

Also I think the admins at least must warn once before banning an account and define some rules for those posts.

The ban is your warning.

First of all I try for my posts to be more informative from now on and have more characters.
I saw some other threads which were about spamming, but from creating this forum, knowing the concept of spamming is one of my goals but I asked 3 questions. I wanted to know how many of users know about spamming and what do they think about how we should behave against spamming. For example now I know that if one-line posts increase or be a lot, they are considered spam, (nearly)regardless of contents. At the end thanks for your response and providing explanations to me from you and all other guys.
Another question that I have, why moderators,.. do not close the threads whose posts are spam, lets say after page  20-30? Is it not better to close such posts. Also really if I was aware my posts are spam I would change the way I was posting.


To Gahs: Maybe I am lucky and so thanks admins, moderators and yes, spamming can have very bad results here .

Edit: I created a poll about this.

[xetsr]

I don't think you're getting the point. Adding more "characters" won't really make a difference.

[Quickseller]

First of all, you don't even have your terminology right. SPAM is promoting your referral link, creating an off topic post promoting your business/thread, or something similar.  

What you were banned for is making insubstantial posts while wearing a paid signature. The key word being insubstantial. The issue is not length of post, nor even content, the issue is does your post reflect that you have at the very least read the OP, and the last page or two of the thread; are you familiar with the conversation? Although both the length of your posts and the content of your posts are an indication of the above, neither says definitively that your post is it is not substantial. As xetsr said above, if your posts reflect that you are posting just to get paid verses having an actual interest in the subject, then your posts are likely to be insubstantial.

You appear to at the very least not be a complete idiot, take your ban as a lesson and improve your posting habits.

Your personality also seems familiar to me. What is your "main" identity?

Also was the account you are using the one that was banned, or is another of your accounts currently banned? your post history reflects the answer to this.

[expert4knowledge]

I don't think you're getting the point. Adding more "characters" won't really make a difference.

Yes I know, I mean more informative and more length. Based on what I saw from comments many of guys told me that I am spam since I have many on-line posts, I know the poor content is the most important reason for considering a person spam but it is not the only reason and I think if you write only one-line post you will be considered spam although you are posting good comments. Also posting comments only (or most of the times) in threads which have many pages can be considered spams.

Also to Quickseller:

I heard your posts are good but I did not know a person who considers others idiot easily is an idiot but I am sure a person who considers others people who have some banned accounts without a proof is definitely an idiot. you judge about me and my personality very easily but you making conclusions only by nothing.
You told that spam is creating an off-topic post, so can you tell me how many of my posts were off-topic? Your definition of spamming is different not only with mine but also with others. I would be happy if you let me know about my banned accounts which I am not aware of them. (edit: many parts of your post is insubstantial and is not related to the topic, please read post of Relnarien in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1561594.0 which seems good for you too.)
Edit: I am locking this thread since I think posts here tend to spam. If others like to continue this please send a message to me.