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July 22, 2016, 09:46:39 PM
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Two things can happen: Ethereum survives and Ethereum dies:
1) Ethereum survives. By "survives" I mean survives for at least several months - a year and keeps it's current marketcap measured in BTC or gains even more marketcap. So the precedent is indeed set. It takes some time, but it will be realized, that all guarantees, such as: freedom from censorship, finite supply of tokens, prespecified emission rate, that people love so much about public blockchains can be modified, altered, canceled. Without those guarantees cryptocurrencies are useless. All cryptos die, including Ethereum and Bitcoin. Game over.

2) Ethereum dies. By "dies" I mean looses most of it's marketcap measured in BTC. Cryptocommunity learns another lesson: while it's possible to violate economically meaningful blockchain rules with a hardfork, it causes it's death. Cryptocurrencies continue to evolve. The game continues.
Are they too susceptible when Ethereum is being criticized?

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July 23, 2016, 03:58:45 AM
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people have reported before that Coindesk censors the comments on their site. so this is nothing strange in my opinion. they may be protecting some interest of their own by blocking anything remotely negative about anything they don't like!

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July 23, 2016, 07:09:20 AM
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They don't seem like a quality site to me.  They spam  you for months on end about some summit yet don't take Bitcoin for it? What the fuck? I'd also guess they do a lot of paid editorial stuff. At the very least they'd have relationships with people who expect certain points of view to be squashed.  They have a total blindspot about a lot of promising alts.
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July 23, 2016, 07:23:48 AM
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I've also heard that bitcointalk censors certain posts regarding ethereum & its devs, so I wouldn't be surprised if having a couple million dollars from a shady ICO allows you to control the presses (to appear less shady)!
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July 26, 2016, 09:58:59 AM
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Both comments appeared in discussions 2-4 days after I wrote them. Coindesk apparently changed it's stance towards the hard fork.

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July 26, 2016, 10:03:12 AM
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Coindesk comments are moderated, you need for moderator to check comments and approve, that may take some time.

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July 26, 2016, 10:13:43 AM
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In my opinion coindesk is hiding something for safe its importance, they make opinion without real riset and data. And it will become real story on their hands because there are many people who use their service.
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July 26, 2016, 10:56:31 AM
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Coindesk comments are moderated, you need for moderator to check comments and approve, that may take some time.
So basically that's like bitcointalk without the rules ? If mods agree with the post ,they can keep it otherwise,in case op the OP,they would delete the post since its offending their terms and regulations laid by the person who paid them to promote ETH on their website ? Someone earlier told me the same thing,seems legit.There is no harm in the post anyway,the only reason a mod can remove that post is when he doesn't agree with it or maybe personal grudges with the poster.
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July 26, 2016, 11:00:43 AM
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Coindesk comments are moderated, you need for moderator to check comments and approve, that may take some time.
So basically that's like bitcointalk without the rules ? If mods agree with the post ,they can keep it otherwise,in case op the OP,they would delete the post since its offending their terms and regulations laid by the person who paid them to promote ETH on their website ? Someone earlier told me the same thing,seems legit.There is no harm in the post anyway,the only reason a mod can remove that post is when he doesn't agree with it or maybe personal grudges with the poster.

sure, if you own a website you can do whatever you want, it's yours, you make the rules...

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July 26, 2016, 11:23:55 AM
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Coindesk comments are moderated, you need for moderator to check comments and approve, that may take some time.
So basically that's like bitcointalk without the rules ? If mods agree with the post ,they can keep it otherwise,in case op the OP,they would delete the post since its offending their terms and regulations laid by the person who paid them to promote ETH on their website ? Someone earlier told me the same thing,seems legit.There is no harm in the post anyway,the only reason a mod can remove that post is when he doesn't agree with it or maybe personal grudges with the poster.

sure, if you own a website you can do whatever you want, it's yours, you make the rules...
but if it was a news website they should atleast keep the reliability and writing down the fact,people's criticize doesn't matter because people have freedom of speech,but seems they just preventing any kind of threat that could potentially make them go to bad situation

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July 26, 2016, 11:56:16 AM
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people have reported before that Coindesk censors the comments on their site. so this is nothing strange in my opinion. they may be protecting some interest of their own by blocking anything remotely negative about anything they don't like!

One of the first giveaways of a scam or something being hidden is the lack of negative comments. Every company no matter how good has negative comments it is very suspicious when there are no complaints. I would never trust any company that has no complaints it just doesn't add up. A complaint is not going to make me less likely to follow buy or invest in something.

 
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July 26, 2016, 12:04:49 PM
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It is normal every moderator or operator have their own opinions even you! You can form your own opinions regarding any matters. The HF biased argument  is neutral nothing about right or wrong! Why wil it affect their reputation?

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July 26, 2016, 01:08:55 PM
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Coindesk comments are moderated, you need for moderator to check comments and approve, that may take some time.
So basically that's like bitcointalk without the rules ? If mods agree with the post ,they can keep it otherwise,in case op the OP,they would delete the post since its offending their terms and regulations laid by the person who paid them to promote ETH on their website ? Someone earlier told me the same thing,seems legit.There is no harm in the post anyway,the only reason a mod can remove that post is when he doesn't agree with it or maybe personal grudges with the poster.

sure, if you own a website you can do whatever you want, it's yours, you make the rules...
but if it was a news website they should atleast keep the reliability and writing down the fact,people's criticize doesn't matter because people have freedom of speech,but seems they just preventing any kind of threat that could potentially make them go to bad situation

Freedom of speech is the right to speak your opinion without persecution or censorship from the government, it is not the right to write whatever you want in other people's property.

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July 26, 2016, 02:44:36 PM
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people have reported before that Coindesk censors the comments on their site. so this is nothing strange in my opinion. they may be protecting some interest of their own by blocking anything remotely negative about anything they don't like!

One of the first giveaways of a scam or something being hidden is the lack of negative comments. Every company no matter how good has negative comments it is very suspicious when there are no complaints. I would never trust any company that has no complaints it just doesn't add up. A complaint is not going to make me less likely to follow buy or invest in something.

I guess no more coindesk then. What i truly dislike is media outlets thinking they can control their content.
They offer content for users, and these days it seems they want to publish positive of their advertisers, forgetting that their advertisers are there for their reach.


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July 26, 2016, 08:05:40 PM
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people have reported before that Coindesk censors the comments on their site. so this is nothing strange in my opinion. they may be protecting some interest of their own by blocking anything remotely negative about anything they don't like!

One of the first giveaways of a scam or something being hidden is the lack of negative comments. Every company no matter how good has negative comments it is very suspicious when there are no complaints. I would never trust any company that has no complaints it just doesn't add up. A complaint is not going to make me less likely to follow buy or invest in something.
The same goes for bitcointalk as well where they do allow criticism but not bashing. It's only third-party websites that allow you to post negative comments about a website/company/brand as they are neutral while coindesk moderates our comments and decides to approve/reject it.
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August 17, 2016, 01:53:26 PM
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This time they put on hold this comment:
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The question is not will ETC die or will it coexist with ETH. The question is will ETH die alone or will it die together with all other cryptos.

I beleive too many people didn't understand why we can be sure that there will never be more than 21M BTC. Thanks to this fork I hope some begin to realize that. Blockchains cannot be destroyed, ETC shows us that. If somebody forks Bitcoin to e.g increase coinsupply, because blah, blah... the economy needs that, I will stay on the old chain, and will see which BTC people prefer to accept. But there's no need to wait for that to happen. Something similar is happening right now. ETH suffered a "fiating" hardfork. If it succeeds, we can expect more such hardforks including those changing emission rate, all of them of course for the sake of public good. And If it can be done in #2 crypto, why couldn't it be done in Bitcoin as well? Bribe, threaten core devs, prominent public figures and their families and they will shape public opinion in favor of the fork. Only wider community can resist, and if the unforked chain survives it can be adopted again later as the main chain.
The only strong argument in this article is: what you would do if say 50% of all coinsupply is stolen. In that case your coin is dead anyway. And BTW for a hacker it's unwise to steal as much money as that, unless the purpose is to kill the coin, because if you own all the money, nobody will play with you, most people will refuse to accept your tokens as money.

If you are long-term ETH investor, you should be grateful to ETC - it gives your investments a chance to survive. ETH is doomed anyway, too many people understand what happened and won't touch anything running on the forked chain.
Let's see how long they will hold this comment on hold. I guess - several days, until the article goes down from the main page, so that as few people as possible can read it.

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August 17, 2016, 03:28:49 PM
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Some major crypto news sites - Coindesk included is pursue very pro ETH policy. Any comments that is overly critical and disruptive towards this "ETH is great coin" stance of Coindesk will be removed.
After all they have to keep high that overhyped herd mentality somehow. If you are wondering how ETH became so big in such short time then this is your answer - good marketing.


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August 20, 2016, 07:36:00 PM
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Someone or a group is paying for that marketing.
How long the hype will go on is another case entirely, but the more stories I hear of what's going on behind the scenes, the more I distrust eth.
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August 21, 2016, 03:01:08 PM
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It seems that you've been censored because they feel it will have some sort of negative impact on their business. It's a dirty move, don't get me wrong, but I think you would do the same if it were your business and some comment may have an impact on whether someone exchanges for that currency or not.
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Many sites and companies have/had they hand in ETH honeypot, some was given other bought, then they started to defend their investment/honey pot
Today is the year of scam ICO projects for a easy way to earn more cash, sure they will block and delete eth bashing

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