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July 24, 2016, 05:55:59 AM
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So what did Edward Snowden do knowing his life would be at risk? Trust Apple and Microsoft products or head straight for the GNU?
He spent months teaching Glen Greenwald how to use GNU Privacy Guard.  Why did he not instead teach Glen Greenwald how to use for example:
1) An Apple iPad?
2) A Microsoft Windows Computer?
The choice of a man who has both the technical knowledge and the insider knowledge, and whose life is at risk depending on the choice of software speaks volumes to me.  

I am not worried.

Edit: The whole idea of torrenting pirated proprietary software, and then facing the legal consequences of such action becomes completely  irrelevant when one can obtain vastly superior Free Libre Open Source Software at no charge that is perfectly legal to use and distribute.  
 

LOL,   Cheesy
I can see why you are not worried, you did not even bother to read the details
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndil/file/877591/download  .

They Cross Referenced IP address information from Apple, Facebook, & Godaddy.
Also Cross Referenced his email information which help lead to his capture.
It makes no difference what OS his local PC was running , IP info would have been recorded no matter the OS.  Tongue
Email Info, he gave to an undercovered agent which was then cross referenced.

The Gov went after the guy because of the Movies Torrents not because of MS Office downloads.

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19.
Between  on  or  about  June  24,  2016,  and  on  or  about  June  30,  2016,  
HSI Special Agents downloaded from the Northern District of Illinois the following
prerelease movies from KAT (at
Subject Domain 4
): Batman V Superman: Dawn
of  Justice,  Captain  America:  Civil  War,  Central  Intelligence,  Deadpool,  Finding  
Dory,  Independence  Day:  Resurgence,  Teenage  Mutant  Ninja  Turtles:  Out  of  the  
Shadows, X-Men Apocalypse, and Now You See Me 2. KAT’s website indicated that
many  of  these  movies  had  been  downloaded  hundreds  of  thousands  of  times.  For  
example,  in  just  a  few  days,  Batman  V  Superman:  Dawn  of  Justice  had  been  
downloaded   over   532,000   times   and   Captain   America:   Civil   War   had   been  
downloaded  over  470,000  times.  The  file  name  for  Captain  America:  Civil  War  
included  the  description  “TC,”  which  according  to  KAT’s  FAQ  page  refers  to  a  
version  that  is  copied  “digitally  from  the  reels,”  i.e.,  the  film  stock  delivered  to  
movie theaters for projection

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FYI:
I guess ignoring the Blazing Facts, helps to make your monero anon religion more believable.
Like ignoring the following tidbit. It always makes me laugh.  Cheesy
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/are-any-altcoins-currenty-useful-no-says-monero-developer-riccardo-spagni-1458743546
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Spagni holds a relatively pragmatic view on altcoins.
The Monero developer has told individuals with limited funds to not buy the altcoin.
In fact, he has stated, “The most likely scenario is that Monero fails entirely.”

FYI2:
Last time, I posted that quote the whole Topic was deleted, let see if the censorship rears its head in BTCtalk again.
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July 24, 2016, 06:12:12 AM
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LMAO Spoetnik, keep on keeping on you cuntrag  Grin Grin. One day (Im guessing within the next 2 years) they will dox the fuck outta you and guess what, the bounty will be in Monero. I cannot predict prices of Bitcoin, shitcoins and scamcoins but that is pretty much a guaranteed thingy. Just like I was right about scumbags like Reptilia, that French fag Latapie and other pricks trying to be a face of Monero hurting its image.

Out of all the faggotry in the alt scene, your constant Monero horseshit is annoying. Go save the noobs from Ethereum and other frauds happening on a daily basis. I was thinking I will be out of Monero forever, but seeing trolls infatuated with it & the minds accumulating it, discussing it without making a big fuss etc, I am starting to have second thoughts. I just wish it was led by anon devs like Shen Noether and the real cryptographers behind CryptoNote. I think the current crop's ego is still ruining the show and we can just hope they will learn not to be cunts to everyone.

My my aren't we smart..

Hey sweet-heart i doxed myself .... years ago... many times.

As the announcer says on Price is Right.. cooooooome on dooooown  Cool

PS:
My "ego" is backed up by decades of REAL life experience that is tangible and provable.
Jealous ?
Mad bro ?
Feel free to tell me YOUR resume.. *if* you even have one kid.

I also don't give two fucks what you find annoying Noob.
Who are you and what have you done in crypto mouthy punk ?
You are nobody and have done nothing and your opinion does not mean fuck all.
But hey.. jiggle your tiny little Dick-Holster at me trying to sound all big & shit.. i just laugh  Cheesy

PS:
My resume IS the topic !
My cracking experience matters.
And knowing people for over a decade who were arrested by the FBI gives me more insight then most of you will ever have.

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July 24, 2016, 06:28:17 AM
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@kiklo
You get where i am coming from Wink
I wanted to add to your solid reply that they nabbed that guy with all of that plus one more tidbit..
They acquired server access in Canada on the guy and got his password from a linux machine
which they admitted help identify him (probably blatantly and with cross-referencing)
The cops info on that password bit was a little vague yet telling..

And of course i share my view for ANY "anon" coin but you notice the only coin shills that were quick to comment here was a brigade of Monero guys.. even the guy lipping me off just now.. his main remark towards me was he was tired of me bashing Monero.
So..
The only thing this topic did is get Kiklo talking and a bunch of Monero fanboys LOL

But i linked to a topic on post 1 where i said i do not support ANY anon coins.
Problem is the loudest most full of shit Shills of all.. ARE the Monero guys.
Hell they had Hoodies printed up then did photo shoots with them saying "Secure + Untraceable"
A mighty bold claim  Cheesy

They have Monero on Coinbase ?
Isn't Poloniex US based ?
Github ?
This very forum ?

And don't get me wrong people..
When i say this forum or some place like Github or Azure or Cryptsy will hand over your info..
I mean they HAVE to do it and we can not reasonably expect them to deny these Police requests.
I do not view ANY of these places in a bad light for doing these things.
Aside from maybe making a poor decision to setup shop in American jurisdiction.

I also warned users about VPN's on TorrentFreak because of this crap for close to a decade.
And once again i got the same mouthy defiant replies back ..jokes about paranoia & conspiracy etc
But, I was right !
Last several years there has been a growing number of VPN's that were compromised by the Police etc.
and they SAID THEY ARE BULLET PROOF !
They said they can't be touched and are 100% secure !

They were wrong and i was right as always and i say I TOLD YOU SO ..again.

Yeah my comments are still on TorrentFreak showing it, going back 10 fucking years
..warning cocky idiot blow hard's  Cheesy

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July 24, 2016, 07:29:02 AM
Last edit: July 24, 2016, 09:00:12 AM by spartak_t
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Spoetnik,

What are you trying to accomplish with this thread? It should be obvious that there is no such thing as anonymity. Handing over personal information from exchanges and such to the authorities, should be also a well known fact. And you know what? I see nothing wrong with that! People must be responsible for their actions and exchanges/forums/etc., are not the ones who should protect their privacy. If John (for example) decides to run a child porn website and receive payments in some "anonymous" cryptocurrency (or whatever), then he must face the consequences. I am quite sure that some services and the authorities as a whole are sometimes abusing with personal information, but this is not the case here. Your privacy should be kept between you and the average Joe (no need for conspiracy theories here).

I have 2 favourite sayings about stupid people and will try to translate them:
One of them says (you can use it in situation were a person shows stupidity in some form): "Your IQ is equal to a room temperature."
The other one says: "You are so stupid that if you put a seashell (rapaninae) closer to your ear, the seashell will hear the ocean." (means you have no brain (and you all know that you "hear the ocean", when you put a seashell near your ear)).

I don't want to insult anybody, but if you truly believe in the 100% anonymity/privacy, then you can use these 2 sayings for yourself. I am quite sure that there are people here in the forum, which know how to protect their anonymity/privacy, but remember - you can always find someone smarter than you. It is like a pyramid of minds, but you nobody knows where is the top. Just look back at the history and see how many hackers were caught. For me there are two reasons not being caught (if you/somebody do something):
1. Some "people" are not interested in you.
2. These "people" are the ones doing it.

Plain and simple.  

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July 24, 2016, 08:33:05 AM
Last edit: July 25, 2016, 04:21:58 AM by Spoetnik
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Spartak you said you never bothered to even read my first post.
Then you just asked what do you hope to accomplish then mentioned Anonymity.

The issue is SECURITY
Which is compromised by request of the US govt at will.. when ever they want.

What do i hope to accomplish ? Read the first post.
.. Coinbase handed over a guys info that got him arrested in a foreign country.

Same bloody thing i told you all Cryptsy was doing.
And i can assure you all that any other type of Crypto related thing is working the same.
Whether you are connected to Azure or Github or Outlook.com or Gmail or what ever.
ALL OF IT is connected to the USA and they are simply an arrest warrant away from taking what they want
or.. simply hacking / stealing it (see Snowden's past comments online)

And people really feel mighty safe & secure doing all this crypto stuff
but occasionally there is arrests & drama or fines etc.
You all simply assume all of this stuff is legal and your are not being tracked & watched by US Fed's
When we have proof that says otherwise..
As i said starting 3 years ago and was laughed at.

So what is the point here.. partly to say I TOLD YOU SO !
Some of you deserve it for mocking me and laughing in my face.
NOW.. i can quote that TorrentFreak story and then shout in your faces I TOLD YOU SO !!!!!  Cheesy  Grin

I said for years around the scene that the Fed's are here among us.
..there could be a sweep of arrests for many of these Pyramid schemes.

Don't forget about the Ransomware connections to Crypto too guys.
We are filled up to our eyes in criminals in this crypto scene !

I know from my many years being a self-proclaimed Piracy Activist Wink
That i heard many stories about the FBI and other US govt agencies running investigations.
..point being is for how long they would run them.
From my perspective watching all these years the longer they run them the more effective they are.
The longer you run a honey pot and lure in victims the more cocky and secure they feel.
And i watched the Fed's do investigations in P2P that would run up to 3 or 4 or even 5 years.
Think about it.. imagine you stole a chocolate bar from a store.
And the cops deliberately waited for you to steal more for 5 years.. to build a large case on you.
That is what they are notorious for and what i think they have been doing in Crypto all this time.

My point here ?
Everyone feels mighty cocky & bullet proof and they have ANON coins etc etc
Maybe when a Cryptsy staffer says we handed over your info or Coinbase admits it
..maybe it's time to think hmm maybe we are not as secure as we THINK we are ?

Think of this..
Monero is on Poloniex right ?
Poloniex collects your Identification right ?
They HAVE to !
Why ? Laws..
If you moved over 30k worth of Monero on Poloniex i would be surprised if Fed's did not know about it already.
They do not collect your private info for no reason people.

Be aware of the risks and the BOLD CLAIMS made by Anon coins salesmen.
Don't assume because you are getting away with profiting from ponzi coins now it will last forever either.
There could be any time a huge crack down with wide sweeping arrests in the Altcoin scene
for all these scammy ass ICO's and misc Pyramid scheme tokens.
Don't think this stuff is legal people.. There is no laws saying you are allowed to do this type of stuff.

I am saying broaden your vision..

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July 24, 2016, 08:55:25 AM
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I am saying broaden your vision..



Just so you know... if you and I were on the same side but were prisoners of war, I'd put a bullet in your head before even planning my escape.

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July 24, 2016, 08:57:13 AM
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Spartak you said you never bothered to even read my first post.

No, my exact words were:

Don't have the time to read, but will do it tomorrow.

I made my last post after I readed everything in the thread.

Then you just asked what do you hope to accomplish then mentioned Anonymity.

The issue is SECURITY
Which is compromised by request of the US govt at will.. when ever they want.

No, it's not like they are giving your personal info to Richard Kuklinski. There are laws about that. In my previous post I implied that there is no way to refuse to cooperate with the authorities, because it would be stupid. People (arguably) have their freedom, privacy or whatever when they are on a vacation (for example) to some remote location. When it comes to a certain laws (no matter how twisted and abusive they may are), exchanges (or whatever - you are right with your Conbase/Gmail/etc examples) must comply, or they will face unnecessary troubles.  

Posts in this direction (anonymity/privacy/security), which takes you hours of reading/writing are pointless, unless you are writing a book or something similar. They bring nothing positive to you. Humanity is controlled by a handful of people and you can't do anything about it. The best thing you can do is to "change the world" which surrounds you (friends, neighbours, planting trees, protect the environment etc.).

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This is a very good original post and damn it has some truth in it.  The US gov is not to be ignored.  They r here and much deeper than most would believe.   Spoetnikz input on this forum is of huge importance.  Thank u once again!

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Thanks !

I hope to get people thinking.. it's sort of what this (forum section) about right ?

Mostly what we see is a herd blind folded pushing forward with profits.. ICO's these days mostly.
It's food for thought.. stuff no one ever talks about and hides from or mocks you for daring to to bring it up.

Like come on guys.. the exchanges hand over your info BEHIND YOUR BACK..
And i tell you they are doing it because they admit it and the response i get it ?
..one guy wants to beat me up or shoot me or some shit and trying to scare me with DOX threats.

Wanna play the game fine but i am all for honesty in the scene.
Know the risks and get all the info you can and then make your decision on what to do next.
Seems fair & reasonable to me.
And this all seems like a far more interesting conversation than Big Banks using Ethereum.. LOL

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Of course they will hand over your info to the authorities behind your back. The policy is the same for you, me and a serial killer.

I've said many times that I am not all against ICO's (well, crowdfunding to be precise), because not all people have the money to spread out their (good) ideas/tech. A number of projects died, because of lack of funding and a few more are struggling for the same reason. I'm not sure if you ever played that "game", but if you did, then you should know that almost everybody are screaming: "MONEEEEY". 

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For a truly anon solution which monero claims but can in no way truly achieve.
These reasons are why all anon fails.

Your IP address is not anon,
Your Browser info is not anon,
Your Email Address is not anon,
Your Bank Account which you linked is not anon,
Your address where you mailed or received goods is not anon,
there are no guarantees the person that did business with you did not sell your identifiable information.

All anon solutions will fail til they can solve all of the above.

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This is somewhat unfair.  An anonymous payment service only has to be anonymous concerning the payment, not concerning the counter service of course, with which it has nothing to do.  Of course, if I want to buy a physical good, I have to provide for some delivery information to the person I'm buying the good from, that's unavoidable.  But that has nothing to do with the payment.

But consider, for instance, that I want to be an anonymous funder of, say, the Islamitic State.  I only want to do an anonymous transaction of value so that nobody can find out that I was the one who has donated value.  Then there's a serious chance that something like Monero can help, while it would be utmost dangerous to do so with Bitcoin.

I would first buy bitcoin on an exchange.  This would be traceable.  Then I would transfer those bitcoins to an exchange that has monero on the list.  That would be traceable too.  Then I would convert my bitcoins to monero.  The exchange would know that.  I would then withdraw my monero.  That's also traceable.  There's no need to try to hide that, it won't work.

But then I would do several Monero-monero transactions between addresses of my own.  If I had a monero node running for a long time, I could do that directly on my monero node for some transactions, and I could use Tor for other transactions.

At this point, I can assume that the trace of the value to me is essentially whiped out.

Next, the most critical step would be to go to a public place, connect to a public net, and, through Tor, using something like TAILS, give the final order to transfer my donation to a monero account of the Islamic State in my example.

I think that that value transfer is essentially unlinkable to me.  In as far as it is, I would say that Monero succeeded in providing true anonymous transfer of value.

Just to make clear: I only use "Islamic state" as an extreme example of where you can think that the powers that be put all efforts to trace funding.  I'm not a funder of those criminals at all.
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