Illiterate sig spammers

[HatakeKakashi]

What you need to do is to put your self in their shoes if some one paying $1.5 bucks for said 20 posts in one day then will you spend 10 minutes for each post and then do it? it is about 200 minutes, I'm not justifying spamming but maybe if you get a decent amount then you could make the efforts to take your time with posting.

Oh and another thing is just to not reading them and ignoring them completely.

Ignoring cancer doesnt make it go away especially if it already spread around 90% of your body.

If you ask me I'd say forum mods love this cancer as for more posts and traffic means more popularity and income for them as well.
Honestly if I wanted to spam I couldn't find the right and good threads fast enough to do it because most of the threads are useless.

Ha,  just look at the Gambling section, its literally clogged up with pointless threads wherein every user utters the same bullshit replies.

Not all questions are considered crap. Yes, I agree that I expect good news, or good strategy or good betting site reviews and I find posts regarding users wins and future of BTC. However, they are related to gambling too. I think we should not objectify the minds of users. Who are we to comprehend the human mind?

[Quickseller]

If you want to ignore the majority of these posters, I would suggest DannyHamilton's ignore list. While it does sometimes block posters with constructive posts, it is a fairly good compromise to avoid seeing spam.

Danny actually has a whitelist of people who wear paid signatures that do not post complete garbage. This pretty much addresses the issue of not being able to view constructive posts.

I have noticed that since this crackdown in the off topic section was implemented, that more and more useless threads who sole purpose is to allow signature spammers and account farmers to make a bunch of useless posts has significantly increased in the bitcoin discussion section. There are probably at least 5 or 6 threads on the first page of bitcoin discussion at any given time that most likely have nothing but useless posts in them.

[Gaugh]

If I understand you clearly, your definition of spam is someone who writes bad English. Campaign managers can correct that by checking the posts of the people they hire, and keeping those with good English.

[Foxpup]

The problem is not that sig spammers can't write (bad English does not make a post spam), but that they can't (or won't) read. Half of all spam replies ignore what previous posters have said (often just answering questions after they're already answered, but bonus points for replying with questions already answered in the thread), and the other half are completely off topic due to not even reading the OP! My ignore list currently has 3,390 users and is growing at an alarming rate. This nonsense has to stop.

[Dahhi]

How do you think it can be stopped? Advertisement is a major source of income to the site.

[minifrij]

Hmm i dont know is there any program like example bot which can scan post and if is in your post something which can spam forum then it dont allow to post that post if it dont exist it can be good idea.

There are no bots that can detect post quality accurately, as it would need to understand the English language. If there were I'm sure it would be used for better purposes than a spam checker for a forum.

Danny actually has a whitelist of people who wear paid signatures that do not post complete garbage. This pretty much addresses the issue of not being able to view constructive posts.

He does, however it isn't very conclusive. Members such as myself, mexxer and Lutpin are still blocked by Danny's list. I would consider all of us to have constructive posts.

If you ask me I'd say forum mods love this cancer as for more posts and traffic means more popularity and income for them as well.

You're an idiot.

How do you think it can be stopped? Advertisement is a major source of income to the site.

Paid signatures can be removed. Signature advertisements do not directly contribute to the site's income; I'm sure that it can live without them.

[btvGainer]

Signature campaigns are best way for newbies and others to earn bitcoin and this way they promote Bitcoin.I wouldn't even care to visit the forum if I dont get bitcoin because unlike early adopters or rich miners, I dont have lots of coins and buying them is not economically possible for me.
That said I dont mean to say that we should tolerate spams or crappy posts in the name of increasing post counts.
But the best one to take decision in this matter is the campaign managers

[MyBTT]

Really hate those threads. But I guess the best I can do is to try and clarify, because those threads are always already 5 pages long by the time i try to report them.

[Decoded]

Literacy is certainly a problem on this forum. I would really like to suggest banning all illiterate members, but that could be viewed as discrimination by me.

How do you think it can be stopped? Advertisement is a major source of income to the site.

Paid signatures can be removed. Signature advertisements do not directly contribute to the site's income; I'm sure that it can live without them.

But you've gotta admit that a large chunk of the bitcointalk community is just here for the signature campaigns.

[minifrij]

But you've gotta admit that a large chunk of the bitcointalk community is just here for the signature campaigns.

I would, yes. Whether this is a good thing for the prosperity of the community is debatable.
While I think it is fine to get paid for something you already would do - in this case wearing a signature to get paid for posting you would still do otherwise - I believe that people that post solely get paid from their signature do not benefit the forum whatsoever.

[DarkHyudrA]

I know I do have one, but I rarely post here because I would feel ashamed to do so.
Bitcoin Discussion is now just a dump of "what to do with bitcoin" and a lot of other non sense hypothetical bullshit.
I come here mostly to check my localized section(Portuguese) because at least there is no flooding of useless posts and topics.

Even reddit is proving to be more useful and cleaner than this forum. No wonder why all the veterans and devs of this forum disappeared.

[LTU_btc]

Look at beginners section, Gambling and Bitcoin Discusion. There are full of signature spamers. There are many long topics with more than 50 pages inside. And what we see in it : every page of thread consists of same answers. They not see, if question was already answered, sometimes they are too lazy to read what OP.

[magemist]

Alot of hero members I noticed in that thread too. 
Just skimmed over it so if there was a legendary you might want to see if their account was bought recently.

[ranochigo]

Danny actually has a whitelist of people who wear paid signatures that do not post complete garbage. This pretty much addresses the issue of not being able to view constructive posts.

He does, however it isn't very conclusive. Members such as myself, mexxer and Lutpin are still blocked by Danny's list. I would consider all of us to have constructive posts.

I was removed from his list after I requested for him to review my posting history several months ago. He removed me from the ignore list and placed me on a special list on the next update. Seeing how he hasn't been updating it frequently, I doubt he is actively maintaining it anymore.
The spam wasn't this bad several months ago, I'm seeing threads with 20+ pages of spammers typing the same content over and over again. The worst part is some of the spammers aren't even talking about the topic itself.

[JesusHadAegis]

Look at beginners section, Gambling and Bitcoin Discusion. There are full of signature spamers. There are many long topics with more than 50 pages inside. And what we see in it : every page of thread consists of same answers. They not see, if question was already answered, sometimes they are too lazy to read what OP.

I got to admit its some places to posts if the only thing you know is signature campaign but it think its up to a signature campaign to disband certain topics in some threads.

Danny actually has a whitelist of people who wear paid signatures that do not post complete garbage. This pretty much addresses the issue of not being able to view constructive posts.

He does, however it isn't very conclusive. Members such as myself, mexxer and Lutpin are still blocked by Danny's list. I would consider all of us to have constructive posts.

I was removed from his list after I requested for him to review my posting history several months ago. He removed me from the ignore list and placed me on a special list on the next update. Seeing how he hasn't been updating it frequently, I doubt he is actively maintaining it anymore.
The spam wasn't this bad several months ago, I'm seeing threads with 20+ pages of spammers typing the same content over and over again. The worst part is some of the spammers aren't even talking about the topic itself.

I think most spammers are from yobit. And since of local posts are not counted it's just easier to posts in this kinds of threads. And yobit has to update and track every spammers and thats why the  send button is not working there because of this major spam problems. But not entirely that yobit is like that because of spammers. Other things need to be updated.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

The problem is not that sig spammers can't write[/i] (bad English does not make a post spam), but that they can't (or won't) read. Half of all spam replies ignore what previous posters have said (often just answering questions after they're already answered, but bonus points for replying with questions already answered in the thread), and the other half are completely off topic due to not even reading the OP! My ignore list currently has 3,390 users and is growing at an alarming rate. This nonsense has to stop.

I will say I strenuously disagree with this.  If you can't write in a given language, your posts (the content of which spammers could give a shit about) are going to come out garbled and indecipherable.  And many of them do.  We have members here whose 1st language isn't English, and they write English beautifully.  I'm sorry, I don't want to have to work hard to interpret a post that's probably not worth reading anyway.

I agree with you about the lack of reading.  I see it over and over.  Shitposters read the title of the thread and BANG, they squat over bitcointalk.org and out comes the reply.

[Foxpup]

If you can't write in a given language, your posts (the content of which spammers could give a shit about) are going to come out garbled and indecipherable.

The thing is, that's not my experience at all. If a person can write in any language at all (and is trying to), it shows. Bad English written (as opposed to auto-translated) by someone who is literate in their native language will typically have a logical grammar even if that grammar isn't English, and spelling and vocabulary errors will be consistent (to the point where it's often possible to identify their native language by the kind of errors they're making in English). It's not hard to tell the difference between someone who just doesn't know English and someone who just doesn't give a shit. The former are in the minority on this forum.

[criptix]

Interesting that we didnt get a single input from a staff member. They might have given up on this one :S

[Ðire]

Discussing this in threads that seem to pop up every week or so has become the norm, and although the threads are fine to throw hate at these spammers (and occasionally at the moderators and admins), I hardly think that they will help much (if at all) towards getting rid of these spammers.

From what I can see, these are the two options that the forum has at this point (tell me if you think otherwise):

1) Do a 360, take some sort of action against shitposts that will prune pretty much 90-96% of this community, and set itself back down but make the forum a much better place to be in. Whether this will attract more users that actually give a crap about what they are discussing or destroy the forum is up to your decision.

2) Let signature spammers continue to pluck off the actually intelligent, dedicated bitcoiners who came here to have a discussion of bitcoin, instead of parroting why exactly gambling is bad for 100+ pages in multiple threads, and inflate the forum's population until a different forum arises that is a safe haven for the afore mentioned bitcoiners and BitcoinTalk is reduced to a shithole. It's only a matter of time, trust me. It may be good advertisement money for now, but it won't last long.

Oh, and as long as BitcoinTalk doesn't make a decision and remains as option two, it's harder and harder to choose the first option.

Ignoring cancer doesnt make it go away especially if it already spread around 90% of your body.

[Joel_Jantsen]

Interesting that we didnt get a single input from a staff member. They might have given up on this one :S

Not really.You do have the "Report to Moderator" button ,use it more often,required actions are taken by them as quick as possible.If the case is too bad,you can always PM them,Cyrus is active most of the time and so is hilariousandco!

About the thread,yes there's always a new one in a week or so.Mods are too tired of arguing over same stuff repeatedly I guess.