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July 25, 2016, 04:51:41 AM
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http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/


"Friends:
I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I gave it to you straight last summer when I told you that Donald Trump would be the Republican nominee for president. And now I have even more awful, depressing news for you: Donald J. Trump is going to win in November. This wretched, ignorant, dangerous part-time clown and full time sociopath is going to be our next president. President Trump. Go ahead and say the words, ‘cause you’ll be saying them for the next four years: “PRESIDENT TRUMP.”


Never in my life have I wanted to be proven wrong more than I do right now.

I can see what you’re doing right now. You’re shaking your head wildly – “No, Mike, this won’t happen!” Unfortunately, you are living in a bubble that comes with an adjoining echo chamber where you and your friends are convinced the American people are not going to elect an idiot for president. You alternate between being appalled at him and laughing at him because of his latest crazy comment or his embarrassingly narcissistic stance on everything because everything is about him. And then you listen to Hillary and you behold our very first female president, someone the world respects, someone who is whip-smart and cares about kids, who will continue the Obama legacy because that is what the American people clearly want! Yes! Four more years of this!

You need to exit that bubble right now. You need to stop living in denial and face the truth which you know deep down is very, very real. Trying to soothe yourself with the facts – “77% of the electorate are women, people of color, young adults under 35 and Trump cant win a majority of any of them!” – or logic – “people aren’t going to vote for a buffoon or against their own best interests!” – is your brain’s way of trying to protect you from trauma. Like when you hear a loud noise on the street and you think, “oh, a tire just blew out,” or, “wow, who’s playing with firecrackers?” because you don’t want to think you just heard someone being shot with a gun. It’s the same reason why all the initial news and eyewitness reports on 9/11 said “a small plane accidentally flew into the World Trade Center.” We want to – we need to – hope for the best because, frankly, life is already a shit show and it’s hard enough struggling to get by from paycheck to paycheck. We can’t handle much more bad news. So our mental state goes to default when something scary is actually, truly happening. The first people plowed down by the truck in Nice spent their final moments on earth waving at the driver whom they thought had simply lost control of his truck, trying to tell him that he jumped the curb: “Watch out!,” they shouted. “There are people on the sidewalk!”

Well, folks, this isn’t an accident. It is happening. And if you believe Hillary Clinton is going to beat Trump with facts and smarts and logic, then you obviously missed the past year of 56 primaries and caucuses where 16 Republican candidates tried that and every kitchen sink they could throw at Trump and nothing could stop his juggernaut. As of today, as things stand now, I believe this is going to happen – and in order to deal with it, I need you first to acknowledge it, and then maybe, just maybe, we can find a way out of the mess we’re in.

Don’t get me wrong. I have great hope for the country I live in. Things are better. The left has won the cultural wars. Gays and lesbians can get married. A majority of Americans now take the liberal position on just about every polling question posed to them: Equal pay for women – check. Abortion should be legal – check. Stronger environmental laws – check. More gun control – check. Legalize marijuana – check. A huge shift has taken place – just ask the socialist who won 22 states this year. And there is no doubt in my mind that if people could vote from their couch at home on their X-box or PlayStation, Hillary would win in a landslide.

But that is not how it works in America. People have to leave the house and get in line to vote. And if they live in poor, Black or Hispanic neighborhoods, they not only have a longer line to wait in, everything is being done to literally stop them from casting a ballot. So in most elections it’s hard to get even 50% to turn out to vote. And therein lies the problem for November – who is going to have the most motivated, most inspired voters show up to vote? You know the answer to this question. Who’s the candidate with the most rabid supporters? Whose crazed fans are going to be up at 5 AM on Election Day, kicking ass all day long, all the way until the last polling place has closed, making sure every Tom, Dick and Harry (and Bob and Joe and Billy Bob and Billy Joe and Billy Bob Joe) has cast his ballot?  That’s right. That’s the high level of danger we’re in. And don’t fool yourself — no amount of compelling Hillary TV ads, or outfacting him in the debates or Libertarians siphoning votes away from Trump is going to stop his mojo.



Here are the 5 reasons Trump is going to win:




1

Midwest Math, or Welcome to Our Rust Belt Brexit.  I believe Trump is going to focus much of his attention on the four blue states in the rustbelt of the upper Great Lakes – Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Four traditionally Democratic states – but each of them have elected a Republican governor since 2010 (only Pennsylvania has now finally elected a Democrat). In the Michigan primary in March, more Michiganders came out to vote for the Republicans (1.32 million) that the Democrats (1.19 million). Trump is ahead of Hillary in the latest polls in Pennsylvania and tied with her in Ohio. Tied? How can the race be this close after everything Trump has said and done? Well maybe it’s because he’s said (correctly) that the Clintons’ support of NAFTA helped to destroy the industrial states of the Upper Midwest. Trump is going to hammer Clinton on this and her support of TPP and other trade policies that have royally screwed the people of these four states. When Trump stood in the shadow of a Ford Motor factory during the Michigan primary, he threatened the corporation that if they did indeed go ahead with their planned closure of that factory and move it to Mexico, he would slap a 35% tariff on any Mexican-built cars shipped back to the United States. It was sweet, sweet music to the ears of the working class of Michigan, and when he tossed in his threat to Apple that he would force them to stop making their iPhones in China and build them here in America, well, hearts swooned and Trump walked away with a big victory that should have gone to the governor next-door, John Kasich.


From Green Bay to Pittsburgh, this, my friends, is the middle of England – broken, depressed, struggling, the smokestacks strewn across the countryside with the carcass of what we use to call the Middle Class. Angry, embittered working (and nonworking) people who were lied to by the trickle-down of Reagan and abandoned by Democrats who still try to talk a good line but are really just looking forward to rub one out with a lobbyist from Goldman Sachs who’ll write them nice big check before leaving the room. What happened in the UK with Brexit is going to happen here. Elmer Gantry shows up looking like Boris Johnson and just says whatever shit he can make up to convince the masses that this is their chance! To stick to ALL of them, all who wrecked their American Dream! And now The Outsider, Donald Trump, has arrived to clean house! You don’t have to agree with him! You don’t even have to like him! He is your personal Molotov cocktail to throw right into the center of the bastards who did this to you! SEND A MESSAGE! TRUMP IS YOUR MESSENGER!

And this is where the math comes in. In 2012, Mitt Romney lost by 64 electoral votes. Add up the electoral votes cast by Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. It’s 64. All Trump needs to do to win is to carry, as he’s expected to do, the swath of traditional red states from Idaho to Georgia (states that’ll never vote for Hillary Clinton), and then he just needs these four rust belt states. He doesn’t need Florida. He doesn’t need Colorado or Virginia. Just Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And that will put him over the top. This is how it will happen in November.


2
The Last Stand of the Angry White Man. Our male-dominated, 240-year run of the USA is coming to an end. A woman is about to take over! How did this happen?! On our watch! There were warning signs, but we ignored them. Nixon, the gender traitor, imposing Title IX on us, the rule that said girls in school should get an equal chance at playing sports. Then they let them fly commercial jets. Before we knew it, Beyoncé stormed on the field at this year’s Super Bowl (our game!) with an army of Black Women, fists raised, declaring that our domination was hereby terminated! Oh, the humanity!

That’s a small peek into the mind of the Endangered White Male. There is a sense that the power has slipped out of their hands, that their way of doing things is no longer how things are done. This monster, the “Feminazi,”the thing that as Trump says, “bleeds through her eyes or wherever she bleeds,” has conquered us — and now, after having had to endure eight years of a black man telling us what to do, we’re supposed to just sit back and take eight years of a woman bossing us around? After that it’ll be eight years of the gays in the White House! Then the transgenders! You can see where this is going. By then animals will have been granted human rights and a fuckin’ hamster is going to be running the country. This has to stop!

3

The Hillary Problem.
Can we speak honestly, just among ourselves? And before we do, let me state, I actually like Hillary – a lot – and I think she has been given a bad rap she doesn’t deserve. But her vote for the Iraq War made me promise her that I would never vote for her again. To date, I haven’t broken that promise. For the sake of preventing a proto-fascist from becoming our commander-in-chief, I’m breaking that promise. I sadly believe Clinton will find a way to get us in some kind of military action. She’s a hawk, to the right of Obama. But Trump’s psycho finger will be on The Button, and that is that. Done and done.


Let’s face it: Our biggest problem here isn’t Trump – it’s Hillary. She is hugely unpopular — nearly 70% of all voters think she is untrustworthy and dishonest. She represents the old way of politics, not really believing in anything other than what can get you elected. That’s why she fights against gays getting married one moment, and the next she’s officiating a gay marriage. Young women are among her biggest detractors, which has to hurt considering it’s the sacrifices and the battles that Hillary and other women of her generation endured so that this younger generation would never have to be told by the Barbara Bushes of the world that they should just shut up and go bake some cookies. But the kids don’t like her, and not a day goes by that a millennial doesn’t tell me they aren’t voting for her. No Democrat, and certainly no independent, is waking up on November 8th excited to run out and vote for Hillary the way they did the day Obama became president or when Bernie was on the primary ballot. The enthusiasm just isn’t there. And because this election is going to come down to just one thing — who drags the most people out of the house and gets them to the polls — Trump right now is in the catbird seat.

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The Depressed Sanders Vote. Stop fretting about Bernie’s supporters not voting for Clinton – we’re voting for Clinton! The polls already show that more Sanders voters will vote for Hillary this year than the number of Hillary primary voters in ’08 who then voted for Obama. This is not the problem. The fire alarm that should be going off is that while the average Bernie backer will drag him/herself to the polls that day to somewhat reluctantly vote for Hillary, it will be what’s called a “depressed vote” – meaning the voter doesn’t bring five people to vote with her. He doesn’t volunteer 10 hours in the month leading up to the election. She never talks in an excited voice when asked why she’s voting for Hillary. A depressed voter. Because, when you’re young, you have zero tolerance for phonies and BS. Returning to the Clinton/Bush era for them is like suddenly having to pay for music, or using MySpace or carrying around one of those big-ass portable phones. They’re not going to vote for Trump; some will vote third party, but many will just stay home. Hillary Clinton is going to have to do something to give them a reason to support her  — and picking a moderate, bland-o, middle of the road old white guy as her running mate is not the kind of edgy move that tells millenials that their vote is important to Hillary. Having two women on the ticket – that was an exciting idea. But then Hillary got scared and has decided to play it safe. This is just one example of how she is killing the youth vote.

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The Jesse Ventura Effect. Finally, do not discount the electorate’s ability to be mischievous or underestimate how any millions fancy themselves as closet anarchists once they draw the curtain and are all alone in the voting booth. It’s one of the few places left in society where there are no security cameras, no listening devices, no spouses, no kids, no boss, no cops, there’s not even a friggin’ time limit. You can take as long as you need in there and no one can make you do anything. You can push the button and vote a straight party line, or you can write in Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck. There are no rules. And because of that, and the anger that so many have toward a broken political system, millions are going to vote for Trump not because they agree with him, not because they like his bigotry or ego, but just because they can. Just because it will upset the apple cart and make mommy and daddy mad. And in the same way like when you’re standing on the edge of Niagara Falls and your mind wonders for a moment what would that feel like to go over that thing, a lot of people are going to love being in the position of puppetmaster and plunking down for Trump just to see what that might look like. Remember back in the ‘90s when the people of Minnesota elected a professional wrestler as their governor? They didn’t do this because they’re stupid or thought that Jesse Ventura was some sort of statesman or political intellectual. They did so just because they could. Minnesota is one of the smartest states in the country. It is also filled with people who have a dark sense of humor — and voting for Ventura was their version of a good practical joke on a sick political system. This is going to happen again with Trump.


Coming back to the hotel after appearing on Bill Maher’s Republican Convention special this week on HBO, a man stopped me. “Mike,” he said, “we have to vote for Trump. We HAVE to shake things up.” That was it. That was enough for him. To “shake things up.” President Trump would indeed do just that, and a good chunk of the electorate would like to sit in the bleachers and watch that reality show.

(Next week I will post my thoughts on Trump’s Achilles Heel and how I think he can be beat.)
Yours,
Michael Moore"


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July 25, 2016, 04:56:59 AM
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Why wouldn't he be the next president? when you have money you can do and be anything and any one.
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July 25, 2016, 05:03:19 AM
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Why wouldn't he be the next president? when you have money you can do and be anything and any one.

You cant buy votes, read the article and you'll know why hes going to be the next president. All the stars are lining up for him and he's going to make the white house the trump house.
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July 25, 2016, 08:06:59 AM
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I don't live in America, so it's really none of my business. My two cents is that Hillary will win, that gal is so determined... Lips sealed
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July 25, 2016, 01:03:40 PM
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I don't live in America, so it's really none of my business. My two cents is that Hillary will win, that gal is so determined... Lips sealed

I live in Canada and it IS my business !

We are so intertwined with the USA we Canadians should get a vote on President.
And i think if we did far more of us would NOT vote Trump.
Canada is shocked & outraged & sickened by the prospect of Trump being made President.
..mostly any way.

And yeah i should get a vote.. you all forget how much Canada does for the USA.
We are your North Military bases.. your Northern Norad patrols.
We are your Lumber, Food, Gas, Oil, Water & Electricity ....

Let me provide this example for why i should get a vote in the USA.
on 911 every single jumbo jet in Canada from the Pacific to the Atlantic was grounded..
Because of the bullshit the USA pulled for 20 years hunting Bin Laden ..striking at him endlessly & missing over & over.
Since then we have had Terrorist attacks etc and it's root is from the actions of the USA.
Which means the political decisions of the USA has an extremely huge impact on our country.

We're stuck dealing with American bullshit..
We are stuck watching half our TV stations ramble on about Trump.
Do Americans know that our cable packages include probably 80% US channels ?
We have to hear it.. ALL THE FUCKING TIME !

Half the shit i get comes from the USA.. my mouse & keyboard.. the food i ate.

Canada should get a vote.. and we all should vote anything but fuckhead Trump.
The guy is a god damn retard .

When i first heard of this i literally thought it was a bad joke.
So many months have gone by and i am still flabbergasted & shocked beyond comprehension.
And i have said that is it.. this is the last straw.

If you Americans vote that cunt into office i wash my hands of you morons.
I will want nothing to do with you brain dead idiots ever again.
Voting on Bush jr. twice was bad enough but now this ?
Nope.. i'm done.
I will then have no choice but to consider the USA as a country of fucking brain dead retards.

There really is no excuse for voting in a Reality TV show star as President of your country.
It really is as silly and fucking stupid as it sounds.
It boils down to a resume and what political resume does Trump have vs any other candidate ?
Nothing !
Has he been mayor of a town ?

You don't hire the least qualified candidate for the most important job in the whole country.
And one good reason is when Moore said he'd have his finger on the button.. EXACTLY !
Simply having the wrong face for your country can be detrimental internationally.
You all think that mouthy douche bag is going to improve relations with Russia or China or N. Korea ?

America needs to grow the fuck up and act it's age.
This let's vote for trump to be rebellious crap is retarded & shameful / childish big time !
Even letting that smug douche get this far already should make your entire country hang it's head in embarrassment.

We are talking about a douche bag who at his rally's told his supporters to attack his opponents with violence.
He was caught on camera saying it !
THEN THEY DID !
Then..
he went on camera and congratulated them and said do it more.

THE FUCKING NERVE OF THAT COCK SUCKER WOWOOWOWOW

And you all consider that fucking maggot Presidential material ?

HOLY FUCK I AM BLOWN AWAY ! ..just ... fucking.. WOW !

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July 25, 2016, 01:11:41 PM
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I am voting trump because every criticism of him is manufactured, chicken-little, trump hate.

Yes he says things that are embarrassing. Obama does the same every single press conference, and tell me who has race-bated and driven race relations into the ground the last 8 years. Trump cannot do worse.

Trump also will address several core problems our incompetent bureaucrats have created:

1) Almost complete collapse of manufacturing in America
2) Hypocrisy of USA govt environmental regulations and labor laws that force companies to move operations over seas where they can pollute and exploit more than they ever would in the USA.
3) Lack of military investment.
4) Lack of any legitimate immigration policy

All of these problems create real-world disasters for a country and economy. You have to be a hippy-intellectual incompetent to invent the policies of the last 20 years... we won't undo them easily.

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July 25, 2016, 01:12:40 PM
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I don't live in America, so it's really none of my business. My two cents is that Hillary will win, that gal is so determined... Lips sealed

You mean well funded and entrenched.... She is only determined because it will keep her out of jail.

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July 26, 2016, 02:10:53 AM
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So according to @Spoetnik US citizens should be able to vote for the Canadian prime minister?

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July 26, 2016, 02:33:04 AM
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I am voting trump because every criticism of him is manufactured, chicken-little, trump hate.

Yes he says things that are embarrassing. Obama does the same every single press conference, and tell me who has race-bated and driven race relations into the ground the last 8 years. Trump cannot do worse.

Trump also will address several core problems our incompetent bureaucrats have created:

1) Almost complete collapse of manufacturing in America
2) Hypocrisy of USA govt environmental regulations and labor laws that force companies to move operations over seas where they can pollute and exploit more than they ever would in the USA.
3) Lack of military investment.
4) Lack of any legitimate immigration policy

All of these problems create real-world disasters for a country and economy. You have to be a hippy-intellectual incompetent to invent the policies of the last 20 years... we won't undo them easily.

The things that bother me about trump are his policies, not the manufactured hate. I try to steer clear of the name-calling and flaming, but if I'm not mistaken we spend over half of our budget on Military Investment, about $600 Billion. We spend way too much on attempting to police the entire world, which is why I agree to a certain degree with what he says about our investments to our NATO allies. I can't agree that there's a Lack of military investment when the majority of the US Budget goes towards just that.

I agree manufacturing has collapsed in America, but I haven't heard or seen Trump do anything to address this issue. Every single one of his companies is outsourced to manufacture outside of the US. Manufacturing unfortunately has become a race to the bottom; You hear about these outsourcing countries like China, Mexico, etc. and their outrageously low rate of pay. How can he possibly bring $0.12/Hour jobs back into America when our minimum wage is being pushed towards $15/hour?

I agree our EPA regulations are hypocritical, but he doesn't want to globally enforce them.. He wants to remove them entirely, so how does that help pollution? (assuming that's your concern) We have a real concern with global pollution and damaging Earth. Trump doesn't believe scientists when they say we're destroying the environment.

Trump has literally said he wants to blanket ban people from entering our country on the basis of the religion they claim, so I'm not sure if you consider that "legitimate". Honestly I agree that we're dealing with serious threats from multiple angles and our immigration policy needs reform to a degree...

My biggest problem with Trump is that he says he is for the people, and wants to enforce our economy, make America great again, but his stance on every single policy issue seems to indicate otherwise when you compare it to common sense. He says he would run America like one of his businesses and he's declared multiple bankruptcies; throwing away thousands of jobs, not caring who gets hurt as long as he pulls out a personal profit.

The way Trump approaches every issue, I disagree that his solution(s) are realistic or beneficial to America.

I'm not voting for Hillary doe. Bernie had me so excited.
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July 26, 2016, 03:19:41 AM
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So according to @Spoetnik US citizens should be able to vote for the Canadian prime minister?

No that is a bad comparison.
You see Americans are stupid and Canadians are not.
And all Canadians know this well.

You all have this little thing in your head that we are boring, polite / friendly & irrelevant.
You all via the majority have a series of stereo-type about us going on.. if anything.
Often you don't think of us ..at all.

In your infinite American wisdom.. we don't matter.
Which is a retarded joke.

You all have no clue that were are experts on our own Canadian society and YOURS !
You ?
I am shocked you even used the words "Prime Minister" ..most Americans lip me off saying "Our President"
Because your idiots.

You Americans don't know we are born & raised and fed American Media + News 24/7.
By the time we get to be an adult we know your country inside & out.. AND OUR OWN !
And what my cocky smug mouth little blow hard's do you know about Canada ?
Fuck all !
You have a few stupid stereo types in your head and not much more.

I have traveled from one end of the USA to the other and i was shocked over the ignorance i heard.
I was asked the dubest fucking questions you could imagine.. then i see the same shit online too.

And hey Mr USA.. let me point out how i tried to *offer* a Pizza Man some Canadian change
that included a couple 1 dollar coins because i was short a TIP (in Minnesota)
and how he flipped out insulted as though i had just tried to stick 'em up robbing him.
He was fucking ANGRY !
How dare i offer him a Pizza man tip in Canada currency ..the nerve of me right ?
And do we accept American money equally in ANY fucking place in Canada ?
YES WE FUCKING DO SMUG ASSHOLES !
But you wanna vote for our "President" ? LOL

But hey you want to take an interest in our Politics for the first time and vote for our guys then i say go for it.
I have no problem with you guys voting for our Politicians..

@DieJohnny
I think your retarded and hood winked by the agenda.. a foolish dreamy stary eyed pie in the sky little dreamer !
You ACTUALLY believe this fucktard Trump is going to bring "Change" ?
I think you are delusional and a sucker and i have a bridge for sale for you.
As soon as Trump gets in the White House he'll be acting like every other President in history
and if you think other wise your a fucking moron.
Only problem is.. he is not qualified and will do a worse job than any before him.
And his mere presence alone can possibly sour relations across the globe.
HE WILL BRING MORE PROBLEMS ..then he ever hopes to solve.

Voting for Trump is being an irresponsible brat.
It's Trolling the system basically.
You are all doing it just to be a snotty little prick asshole.
Not because he is qualified but because he's an obnoxious mouthy cunt.


What credibility / experience does trump have ?
What is it he PLANS to change or improve that will make things better ?
As far as i can tell he is a racist who has incited campaign violence and then praised attackers on TV.
THAT IS NOT Presidential material.
No person deemed a President should be on TV telling the public to resolve a social issue by beating each other up.
The fact even 1 of you would support him after he did that is shameful.

He also has a whole lot more bad going for him too.. i just seen another news story where
he was caught using Queens music in his campaigns and he refused to stop using it.
The band went on Twitter and said STOP IT!.. and he still uses the "We are the champions" song
This matters because it turns out he has already been in shit for that about 4 or 5 other times
and there is a long list of super famous people who spoke out publicly against him using their music.
He doesn't care though he just stomps around doing what ever he wants.

That is Presidential material ?

By the way as a Canadian i feel i should point out to you smart fuckers
this topic will probably be moved to the Politics section.
We ARE smarter  Cheesy  Cool

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July 26, 2016, 02:18:26 PM
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Michael Moore just wants to scare liberals into voting.
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Michael Moore just wants to scare liberals into voting.

That's exactly right. Hilarious too.
Donald Trump wants to gobble up America and pull out a personal profit (whether it be fame, connections, or incentive). Please don't let him completely remove minimum wage and EPA regulations. D:
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Trump also will address several core problems our incompetent bureaucrats have created:

1) Almost complete collapse of manufacturing in America
2) Hypocrisy of USA govt environmental regulations and labor laws that force companies to move operations over seas where they can pollute and exploit more than they ever would in the USA.
3) Lack of military investment.
4) Lack of any legitimate immigration policy

All of these problems create real-world disasters for a country and economy. You have to be a hippy-intellectual incompetent to invent the policies of the last 20 years... we won't undo them easily.

In 2015 54 percent of all federal discretionary spending, a total of $598.5 billion was spent on the military.
The United States has BY FAR the largest military budget of any country in the world.

I agree with your other points but anyone who says we need to increase military spending has some kind of agenda IMO.
(Probably work for Haliburton or one of the other contractors who profit off military spending.)
I would actually prefer that we used some of the military budge to secure our borders, even if this meant having US troops responsible for the border patrol.
We need to increase the budget for immigration and border security, and the money has to come from somewhere.

I guarantee if Haliburton was in the business of approving visa applications they would get a billion dollars funding overnight and the entire problem would be solved within three years.
(Because that's who really runs the country and if you think otherwise you're fucking delusional.)

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All else may change and worry about greatly is not worth it. Americans are a strong nation and deserves to have a good President. This means that the people will elect worthy. M
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July 26, 2016, 05:28:12 PM
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Trumps attitudes are actually quite logical, it is better than shady snake and notorious liar Billary that woks for Goldman sachs willing to do everything their sponsors from Wall street want. She has no opinions, she just says what ever media people love to hear.

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July 26, 2016, 11:55:27 PM
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Look at all the action on this thread. I too am in Canada and would never think to vote for any US president. We are not as intertwined as spotenik would make you believe. And I also disagree with him comment that Americans are stupid and Canadians are smarter. That's just none sense. Both side of the borders have dumb ass mother fuckers and smart ass ones.

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July 27, 2016, 11:17:10 AM
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Trump gets stronger the more the media and elites try to stop him.

Nate Silver, supposed math whiz at predicting elections, got polls wrong 7 times.

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July 27, 2016, 02:04:25 PM
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Look at all the action on this thread. I too am in Canada and would never think to vote for any US president. We are not as intertwined as spotenik would make you believe. And I also disagree with him comment that Americans are stupid and Canadians are smarter. That's just none sense. Both side of the borders have dumb ass mother fuckers and smart ass ones.



I provided examples to back up my claims.
Did you ?
nope..

You disagree but posted 0 to back it up.

Uhhhh yeah USA is heavily intertwined with Canada.
The fact you would even dispute this blows me away.
I already provided examples, how many more do you want ?

Besides we all know there is dumb people everywhere.
You missed the point or are simply truing to argue.

I have lived end to end in Canada and we have mostly US TV stations.
Which means we are forever all our lives saturated on a daily basis with American Media.
Probably more so than our own Canadian stations and our own Canadian content.

Bottom line is we have American crap jammed down our throat 24/7
While Americans have forever just ignored us saying we don't matter etc.
Until it's time to collect their "Exports" we hand over to them..

I think your just trying to argue buddy.
People are free to use Google.. it's not hard.

Which means Trump is already having an impact on Canada
and if Trump is voted in.. the negative effects will easily spill over into our country !



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By the way i have more than 1 family member that was American..
My sister married a guy a few years back who left dropping his US citizenship.
He is Canadian now and is never going back..

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July 27, 2016, 04:12:19 PM
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he's gonna win because he says what alot of people feel. even if it's simplistic bullshit and he fails miserably, which he will, would it be any worse than the alternative for the average guy? at least they'll feel they got a couple of good punches in before they were flushed down the toilet forever.
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July 27, 2016, 04:56:59 PM
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Despite his personality. Trump is a brand  Cool and He is smarter than He seems to be..

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