what did I do wrong, lost etc classic

[rocketron]

Hi guys,

so I have a cold wallet pre hard fork with eth in it,

on the forked chain i made a new address and moved my eth from my origional address to it.

I then deleted the chain and synced the ethereum classic one, put my origional wallet back in,

but there is no ethereum classic in it,

shouldnt I have both ethereum classic and ethereum,

I dont understand what i did wrong


anyone care to help

many thanks

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[Minecache]

Hi guys,

so I have a cold wallet pre hard fork with eth in it,

on the forked chain i made a new address and moved my eth from my origional address to it.

I then deleted the chain and synced the ethereum classic one, put my origional wallet back in,

but there is no ethereum classic in it,

shouldnt I have both ethereum classic and ethereum,

I dont understand what i did wrong


anyone care to help

many thanks

You didn't do anything wrong. Basically ETC is an unstable insecure chain and your funds have been stolen. This is why it's advisable not to mess around with Ethereum Classic. It's the thiefs chain.

[rocketron]

thank you for the reply.

acording to etherscan, the ether in my new address is still there so that is a sigh of releif.

I am still downloading the pre-fork block chain, but in the mean time I was checking on the ethereum classic block explorer for the address, but it shows 0 etherem classic, and shows the transfer to the new address I made on the hf fork.

I dont understand how the ethereum classic block explorer can see the transactions from the official ethereum one,

[ArticMine]

Hi guys,

so I have a cold wallet pre hard fork with eth in it,

on the forked chain i made a new address and moved my eth from my origional address to it.

I then deleted the chain and synced the ethereum classic one, put my origional wallet back in,

but there is no ethereum classic in it,

shouldnt I have both ethereum classic and ethereum,

I dont understand what i did wrong


anyone care to help

many thanks

Do you have a backup of the original, before the ETH transaction, cold wallet? The ETC should be there.

[rocketron]

yes i do,

so the ethereum classic block explorer even tho it say the address has 0 eth, it actually still does?

and if it is there, because I moved my ether out of the address to a new address on the officical chain, I am safe from replay attacks?

thanks for you help pal

[Minecache]

yes i do,

so the ethereum classic block explorer even tho it say the address has 0 eth, it actually still does?

and if it is there, because I moved my ether out of the address to a new address on the officical chain, I am safe from replay attacks?

thanks for you help pal

If you created a brand new address on the forked chain and moved your ETH there then those are safe from replay attack vectors because that address doesn't exist on the insecure chain.

[rocketron]

thank you very much, that is what I wanted to hear 

[ArticMine]

yes i do,

so the ethereum classic block explorer even tho it say the address has 0 eth, it actually still does?

and if it is there, because I moved my ether out of the address to a new address on the officical chain, I am safe from replay attacks?

thanks for you help pal

I would re sync the classic chain using the original pre fork wallet, and see what it tells you rather than rely on a third party block explorer. Make sure to make separate backups of both the ETC and ETH wallets.

[rocketron]

thanks for reply.

Still syncing the classic chain, its bit slow. seperated the backups already  main thing for me is that my ether is in the new address and safe on the official chain.

will post and let you guys know what happens once the chain is synced.

you are right I shouldnt just jump the gun on what the 3rd party block explorer says.

I am still baffled as to how the ethereum classic block explorer can be linked to the official one though.

yes i do,

so the ethereum classic block explorer even tho it say the address has 0 eth, it actually still does?

and if it is there, because I moved my ether out of the address to a new address on the officical chain, I am safe from replay attacks?

thanks for you help pal

I would re sync the classic chain using the original pre fork wallet, and see what it tells you rather than rely on a third party block explorer. Make sure to make separate backups of both the ETC and ETH wallets.

[shyliar]

thank you for the reply.

acording to etherscan, the ether in my new address is still there so that is a sigh of releif.

I am still downloading the pre-fork block chain, but in the mean time I was checking on the ethereum classic block explorer for the address, but it shows 0 etherem classic, and shows the transfer to the new address I made on the hf fork.

I dont understand how the ethereum classic block explorer can see the transactions from the official ethereum one,

It sounds like replay since the coins were moved to the same address on the classic chain. That said I wouldn't worry yet. If the ETH wallet follows the standards of other cryptocurrency wallets it actually created 100 address the first time you opened it. The new address you "created" already existed in your wallet.....you were simply seeing it for the first time when you used a new address.

If true you will find in your classic wallet the coins you transferred to the new address once the blockchain is downloaded.

At that point you should follow one of the recommended methods of splitting your coins (or you risk replay again).

If the ETH wallet makers did not follow the 100 address standard you may have a problem.

[rocketron]

you are right,

REPLAY HAPPENED


I am now in the process of trying to do a split contract on the new address.

will post update once done,

[shyliar]

you are right,

REPLAY HAPPENED


I am now in the process of trying to do a split contract on the new address.

will post update once done,

Well at least you didn't lose anything and learned something new at the same time. I like to look at the positive side of the coin. 

[shyliar]

yes i do,

so the ethereum classic block explorer even tho it say the address has 0 eth, it actually still does?

and if it is there, because I moved my ether out of the address to a new address on the officical chain, I am safe from replay attacks?

thanks for you help pal

If you created a brand new address on the forked chain and moved your ETH there then those are safe from replay attack vectors because that address doesn't exist on the insecure chain.

Unfortunately that would send all the ETC to the same address effectively burning it and costing the OP perhaps thousands of dollars.

[Minecache]

yes i do,

so the ethereum classic block explorer even tho it say the address has 0 eth, it actually still does?

and if it is there, because I moved my ether out of the address to a new address on the officical chain, I am safe from replay attacks?

thanks for you help pal

If you created a brand new address on the forked chain and moved your ETH there then those are safe from replay attack vectors because that address doesn't exist on the insecure chain.

Unfortunately that would send all the ETC to the same address effectively burning it and costing the OP perhaps thousands of dollars.

He asked if he was safe from replay attack vectors. I confirmed.

[shyliar]

yes i do,

so the ethereum classic block explorer even tho it say the address has 0 eth, it actually still does?

and if it is there, because I moved my ether out of the address to a new address on the officical chain, I am safe from replay attacks?

thanks for you help pal

If you created a brand new address on the forked chain and moved your ETH there then those are safe from replay attack vectors because that address doesn't exist on the insecure chain.

Unfortunately that would send all the ETC to the same address effectively burning it and costing the OP perhaps thousands of dollars.

He asked if he was safe from replay attack vectors. I confirmed.

That would have caused a replay that would have made his ETC unrecoverable. As it was fortunately the OP used one of his original addresses before the fork occurred and will be able to access both ETH and ETC  without replays after utilizing a split contract. Important information for members of the ETH community to be aware of.

[rocketron]

Everything worked out in the end.

When I moved the eth on the forked chain to a new address it also moved the etc to that address.

I used the split dao and moved etc to polo and eth to new eth address.

Then sold all eth and converted into etc. Moved the lot in etc cold wallet 

[shyliar]

Everything worked out in the end.

When I moved the eth on the forked chain to a new address it also moved the etc to that address.

I used the split dao and moved etc to polo and eth to new eth address.

Then sold all eth and converted into etc. Moved the lot in etc cold wallet 

That's great news.

[rocketron]

thanks for your help guys., hopefully if anyone makes the same misteak they find this thread 

[Minecache]

Everything worked out in the end.

When I moved the eth on the forked chain to a new address it also moved the etc to that address.

I used the split dao and moved etc to polo and eth to new eth address.

Then sold all eth and converted into etc. Moved the lot in etc cold wallet 

Why the hell would any sane person sell their ETH bag to purchase more ETC criminal coins? A currency that a thief owns >10%?

That is insane.