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July 27, 2016, 09:56:05 PM
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Gud to see ETH, the real Ethereum, bouncing back while ETC, the criminals coin, is in freefall.

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July 27, 2016, 10:15:08 PM
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lol the question is who's the real criminals? VB, the DAO hacker, slock.it.. too many suspects if you ask me. Your shilling for the ETH amateurs is overly impressive btw, salary must be good there...
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July 27, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
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ETH is the criminal's fork, those who would subvert code and betray the community to bailout large investors.  
  
ETC is Ethereum.

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July 27, 2016, 10:20:32 PM
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ETH is the criminal's fork, those who would subvert code and betray the community to bailout large investors.  
  
ETC is Ethereum.
No, the C in ETC is for Criminal as its on this insecure chain that the DAO thief will gain his 10% supply of ETC.

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July 27, 2016, 10:23:50 PM
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ETH is the criminal's fork, those who would subvert code and betray the community to bailout large investors.  
  
ETC is Ethereum.
No, the C in ETC is for Criminal as its on this insecure chain that the DAO thief will gain his 10% supply of ETC.

The H in ETH is for Hardfork.  It is the testnet for actual immutable code.  Those who support ETH as anything more than a test net are the equivalent of those who support playing poker with chips which the dealer can arbitrarily hand out at his whim.

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July 27, 2016, 10:37:19 PM
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ETH is the criminal's fork, those who would subvert code and betray the community to bailout large investors.  
  
ETC is Ethereum.
No, the C in ETC is for Criminal as its on this insecure chain that the DAO thief will gain his 10% supply of ETC.

Thief as in how the code is the law ?  How can he be a thief if he acted according to the law ?
Aren't the thieves rather those that have undone things that were acted by the code and hence the law, using means (hard forks) that were claimed not to be used in the "unstoppable code" selling argument ?

If you obtain things by acting according to the law (the code), and then people change the rules contrary to their engagement to take those things back, aren't THEY the thieves ?

ETH has stolen the coins from his rightful owner by stopping and undoing unstoppable code.  If that doesn't affect market price, then we know what ETH users support.

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July 27, 2016, 11:08:14 PM
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ETH is the criminal's fork, those who would subvert code and betray the community to bailout large investors.  
  
ETC is Ethereum.
No, the C in ETC is for Criminal as its on this insecure chain that the DAO thief will gain his 10% supply of ETC.

Thief as in how the code is the law ?  How can he be a thief if he acted according to the law ?
Aren't the thieves rather those that have undone things that were acted by the code and hence the law, using means (hard forks) that were claimed not to be used in the "unstoppable code" selling argument ?

If you obtain things by acting according to the law (the code), and then people change the rules contrary to their engagement to take those things back, aren't THEY the thieves ?

ETH has stolen the coins from his rightful owner by stopping and undoing unstoppable code.  If that doesn't affect market price, then we know what ETH users support.


You are very tiresome. I've answered this is another thread. Perhaps learn to read and comprehend the original answer before reposting the same old FUD?

To summarise: if he's not a thief and didn't steal then where is he? Where is his legal challenge, which remember he originally threatened, to claim back his ill gotten plunder?

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July 27, 2016, 11:31:51 PM
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I think you meant METH.   Grin  M = Modified, Modified Ethereum.
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July 28, 2016, 03:11:01 AM
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I heard this in chat: ETC stands for Execute The Code and ETH stands for Execute The Heist. I can't say I disagree. Cheesy

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July 28, 2016, 03:13:37 AM
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I am sorry Minecache but it is only the price that has gone down. The original chain will live on no matter how high or how low the price is. It will live long enough to be the longest chain I predict. Sorry to the people who want the fork to happen.

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July 28, 2016, 05:51:59 AM
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Weather or not eth bounces back to where it was originally the damage is done.  No one should be putting their trust in it now.  They hardforked once for large investors so they could do it again.  Maybe vb will make a bad sell order and just hard fork to correct his mistake.  Its handy having a centralised currency for times like that.

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July 28, 2016, 05:54:09 AM
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Hope, hope and hope again.
ETH was a speculative coin with plenty of flaws. The hardfork has shown the truth to the market.

RIP ETH, RIP ETC.
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July 28, 2016, 06:52:22 AM
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i think nothing to be worried about hard fork, as long as the rate of ETH will back like before. and for ETC, i think its too soon to get its up like yesterday, in a couple hours, the rate is up until 0.004 geezz, people will be make a lot of money with ETC. while ETH is really slow to up but for sure, ETH will be up again like before.

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July 28, 2016, 11:45:17 AM
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it is so funny (from outside) to watch two side of the same thing fight and call each chain scam. while big whales have been pump and dumping both chains (both ETH and ETC) and earning ridiculous amount of money in only a couple of days. and soon they will dump both and move on to the next Smiley

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July 28, 2016, 12:41:59 PM
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Is so funny to see a break in a contract been called "the real eth"...
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July 28, 2016, 01:47:26 PM
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To summarise: if he's not a thief and didn't steal then where is he? Where is his legal challenge, which remember he originally threatened, to claim back his ill gotten plunder?

I answered that.  He's not a thief according to the "code is law" system.  He might very well be considered a thief under "human paper contract law".  As the "code is law" system has been broken by the fork, the legal system in which he did his legal things has retro-actively changed from the law into something akin of the "decision of the King" (or of the mob).  As this whole circus of "the code is the law" is in ANY CASE probably not valid from a human law point of view, there's no point for him to go to court.  So why did he say something that wouldn't make sense in a human court (and he must have known that) ?

I have a theory of why he might have issued these legal threats even though he probably didn't have a foot to stand on in the human law frame: his goal was not to become rich, his goal was to break ethereum.  Now, by threatening with legal action, he made it much more probable that the OTHER SIDE (the DAO bagholders) would also threaten with legal action if nothing was done, and hence use them to scare the hell out of the ETH foundation, so that they would break their system with a fork or something.  As such, what should have been a DAO-limited disaster has affected ethereum itself, so that these guys showed that not only their coding language was tricky to use, but moreover that their whole block chain was rewindable, so that in the end, NOTHING remained of the ethereum proposition: a buggy star application, the DAO, a tricky programming language, and on top of that, a broken block chain and a broken promise of unstoppable contract.

In other words, his threat of going to court was nothing else but a bait to stimulate a fork and screw up the whole system.  One cannot say that he failed, but in any case, it was a win-win situation: by doing so, if the ETH foundation would have stood firm on its principles, he could have cashed out severely, or he would have lost his stash, but the ETH foundation would have screwed the last bit of credibility in their principles, which was his announced goal.

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July 28, 2016, 02:44:35 PM
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Gud to see ETH, the real Ethereum, bouncing back while ETC, the criminals coin, is in freefall.


Your enthusiasm for ETH has no limits Smiley Why would ETC be the criminals coin? ETC is the original concept of Ethereum, which was formerly known as ETH then. You specifically told us ETH was a cool buy back in the day. They are both valid chains now, I don't know why people are having such a hard time accepting that.

If anything, the blatant conflict of interest the fork presented for the developers is "criminal". You don't get to make decisions like this when you have obvious ulterior motives.
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March 11, 2018, 05:46:49 AM
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In my opinion, ethereum will always prevail. Ethereum is one of the top altcoin. Many people have tried ethereum for trading and investing. Many investors both big and small are incorporated in it. They believe that ethereum is an altcoin with the best prospects and potential for enormous success. Ethereum never reached more than $ 1000 / eth. By launching its own platform, ethereum is becoming more successful and more and more are looking to try ethereum. Although the current price of ethereum is down, but just keep your altcoin in 2 months, guaranteed ethereum prices will return to normal, even rising drastically. That's all my opinion, thank you

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March 11, 2018, 08:31:23 AM
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I agree, Ethereum will easily prevail and grow more and more, at the moment it is in correction phase and consolidating the next rise will be huge and break the previous alltine highs hopefully.

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March 11, 2018, 01:39:24 PM
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Gud to see ETH, the real Ethereum, bouncing back while ETC, the criminals coin, is in freefall.
Fork he is fork and there is nothing to say, many of them are simple pumps. But the broadcast of the original is a very big thing that will only grow in the future and the current recession is only an opportunity to bribe it.
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