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July 30, 2016, 10:48:19 PM
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I have asked DrahogErusiel some very specific questions which would not be able to be answered by a 3rd party just by reviewing the messages and he answered correctly. I am of the opinion that this is the original account holder and recommend trust rating revisions.
OK, I believe he's in control of the account.  I find it highly suspicious that he got hacked and the hacker didn't change his password whilst asking for a loan and putting the account up for sale.  That sounds like a load of bullshit to me and I'm of the opinion he tried to go Cryptsy on us.

You might be right, but allow me to provide a more likely counter narrative.

1. He went inactive and the hacker got into his account using the hacked database or some other means, thus did not expect him to return quickly.
2. Changing the password would clue off other people that the account was compromised when it was unlikely he would try to log in.
3. The attacker (rightly) assumed he would have had plenty of time to accomplish this before the original user found out. If it weren't for him being so inept it might have worked.

Considering the loan was for a small amount this wasn't exactly like a Cryptsy level exit scam if that was in fact the case. I suggest revision of trust ratings, and if you believe he may have always been in control of the account simply keep an eye on him or leave a neutral rating to replace your negative to warn others of the possibility.



I have asked DrahogErusiel some very specific questions which would not be able to be answered by a 3rd party just by reviewing the messages and he answered correctly. I am of the opinion that this is the original account holder and recommend trust rating revisions.
OK, I believe he's in control of the account.  I find it highly suspicious that he got hacked and the hacker didn't change his password whilst asking for a loan and putting the account up for sale.  That sounds like a load of bullshit to me and I'm of the opinion he tried to go Cryptsy on us.

Edit:  But I'm open-minded and I'd like to hear what the community has to say.  More or less.

Of course, if the account was never hacked but stayed in the original owners possession, all your questions could definitely be answered. From all the posted evidence, this is the likely scenario.

As I already explicitly stated, which you quickly ignored, this information was not posted on the forum or within the PMs. You are free to make your own opinions, but not your own facts.

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July 30, 2016, 10:56:59 PM
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I have asked DrahogErusiel some very specific questions which would not be able to be answered by a 3rd party just by reviewing the messages and he answered correctly. I am of the opinion that this is the original account holder and recommend trust rating revisions.
OK, I believe he's in control of the account.  I find it highly suspicious that he got hacked and the hacker didn't change his password whilst asking for a loan and putting the account up for sale.  That sounds like a load of bullshit to me and I'm of the opinion he tried to go Cryptsy on us.

You might be right, but allow me to provide a more likely counter narrative.

1. He went inactive and the hacker got into his account using the hacked database or some other means, thus did not expect him to return quickly.
2. Changing the password would clue off other people that the account was compromised when it was unlikely he would try to log in.
3. The attacker (rightly) assumed he would have had plenty of time to accomplish this before the original user found out. If it weren't for him being so inept it might have worked.

Considering the loan was for a small amount this wasn't exactly like a Cryptsy level exit scam if that was in fact the case. I suggest revision of trust ratings, and if you believe he may have always been in control of the account simply keep an eye on him or leave a neutral rating to replace your negative to warn others of the possibility.
OK, with all due respect that scenario just doesn't sound likely to me.  Not impossible, but I don't think a hacker could have or would have made those assumptions--even if he had been inactive for a while--and we've seen this pattern of scam attempt followed by "I got hacked!" so many times that I think it's the more likely situation.  Bottom line is I don't trust this guy and the rating is going to stay as it is.

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July 30, 2016, 11:05:53 PM
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I have asked DrahogErusiel some very specific questions which would not be able to be answered by a 3rd party just by reviewing the messages and he answered correctly. I am of the opinion that this is the original account holder and recommend trust rating revisions.
OK, I believe he's in control of the account.  I find it highly suspicious that he got hacked and the hacker didn't change his password whilst asking for a loan and putting the account up for sale.  That sounds like a load of bullshit to me and I'm of the opinion he tried to go Cryptsy on us.

You might be right, but allow me to provide a more likely counter narrative.

1. He went inactive and the hacker got into his account using the hacked database or some other means, thus did not expect him to return quickly.
2. Changing the password would clue off other people that the account was compromised when it was unlikely he would try to log in.
3. The attacker (rightly) assumed he would have had plenty of time to accomplish this before the original user found out. If it weren't for him being so inept it might have worked.

Considering the loan was for a small amount this wasn't exactly like a Cryptsy level exit scam if that was in fact the case. I suggest revision of trust ratings, and if you believe he may have always been in control of the account simply keep an eye on him or leave a neutral rating to replace your negative to warn others of the possibility.
OK, with all due respect that scenario just doesn't sound likely to me.  Not impossible, but I don't think a hacker could have or would have made those assumptions--even if he had been inactive for a while--and we've seen this pattern of scam attempt followed by "I got hacked!" so many times that I think it's the more likely situation.  Bottom line is I don't trust this guy and the rating is going to stay as it is.



I've had far more coin than the .36 (or whatever the hacker was trying to obtain in a loan) before sending the Item. Ill ask 'The 4ner' to chime in if he is still active. If I was interested in robbing someone on here I could of taken a lot more than .36. I'm to simple for all that.

Pharmacist, Dont expect some childish retaliation from me. After looking at how you interact you have enough struggles. 

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July 30, 2016, 11:08:51 PM
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Once I have time I'll dig through my old harddrives and see if i can find the wallet.dat. I dont know if I can regenerate a old wallet and sign a public key with that file yet. Ive not had a QT in a while.

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July 30, 2016, 11:09:11 PM
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I have asked DrahogErusiel some very specific questions which would not be able to be answered by a 3rd party just by reviewing the messages and he answered correctly. I am of the opinion that this is the original account holder and recommend trust rating revisions.
OK, I believe he's in control of the account.  I find it highly suspicious that he got hacked and the hacker didn't change his password whilst asking for a loan and putting the account up for sale.  That sounds like a load of bullshit to me and I'm of the opinion he tried to go Cryptsy on us.

You might be right, but allow me to provide a more likely counter narrative.

1. He went inactive and the hacker got into his account using the hacked database or some other means, thus did not expect him to return quickly.
2. Changing the password would clue off other people that the account was compromised when it was unlikely he would try to log in.
3. The attacker (rightly) assumed he would have had plenty of time to accomplish this before the original user found out. If it weren't for him being so inept it might have worked.

Considering the loan was for a small amount this wasn't exactly like a Cryptsy level exit scam if that was in fact the case. I suggest revision of trust ratings, and if you believe he may have always been in control of the account simply keep an eye on him or leave a neutral rating to replace your negative to warn others of the possibility.
OK, with all due respect that scenario just doesn't sound likely to me.  Not impossible, but I don't think a hacker could have or would have made those assumptions--even if he had been inactive for a while--and we've seen this pattern of scam attempt followed by "I got hacked!" so many times that I think it's the more likely situation.  Bottom line is I don't trust this guy and the rating is going to stay as it is.

I don't really give a shit what you think, you are overzealous obsessive compulsive jerk off and no one takes you seriously anyway. I have had my disagreements with DrahogErusiel and have no reason to cover for him. Your ability to form reasonable judgement calls is non-existant, and all you do all day is run around this forum looking for people to point your finger at so you can tell yourself and others you are doing something positive when you are little more than a parasite indiscriminately shitting upon people for your own personal satisfaction of satiating your obsessive compulsive complex like so many others on this forum. I say this with all due respect.

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Pharmacist, Dont expect some childish retaliation from me. After looking at how you interact you have enough struggles.  
OK, so just expect some passive-aggressive attitude which isn't childish at all.  Gotcha.  

Edit:  Not going for that bait, techshare.

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July 30, 2016, 11:19:17 PM
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Techshare! ~your way with words always makes me laugh. So many with the witch hunt complex.


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July 31, 2016, 03:26:18 AM
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I changed my password after the data hack or for some other reason then changed it back to the original password forgetting about the security breach and forgetting my new password. This is the only reason I can think of. the hack did not seem intelligent to be from anything else.

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July 31, 2016, 08:41:27 AM
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So whats the discussion about even? Is there still an unpaid loan or is just the normal paranoia that keeps this going?

Edit: thanks @TECSHARE for the answer below.

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July 31, 2016, 10:51:11 AM
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So whats the discussion about even? Is there still an unpaid loan or is just the normal paranoia that keeps this going?

The loan never actually happened. Just more people shouting the virtues of paranoia from the rooftops as the only solution.

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July 31, 2016, 03:49:36 PM
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Hey this is the same guy that mailed me a 21lb box of smokey dusty magic cards i still have. Can confirm the original owner of the account is back

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July 31, 2016, 04:10:58 PM
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So whats the discussion about even? Is there still an unpaid loan or is just the normal paranoia that keeps this going?

The loan never actually happened. Just more people shouting the virtues of paranoia from the rooftops as the only solution.

Understatement.
Whoever had that account before asked for a 0.38BTC loan, was looking for a 0.6BTC paypal/skrill/payza/wmz trade, and was selling that account. All that in the same day.

Also said something about having recovered the account (no proof) shortly after being called out. This means whoever had that account before fully intended to scam.

Besides, OP have not brought any sort of proof to this thread.

Ive changed wallets and computers a few times but I think i may have a wallet.dat??(i think) on a harddrive from 2013/14. I also have  a friend who may chime in that informed me of something odd going on. Funny, the hacker didnt change the password but did change the accounts email and uploaded a avatar that I have since changed to the current one.


for what its worth here are some other pages I use under the same alias.
https://drahog.bandcamp.com/
https://www.facebook.com/drahog.erusiel?fref=ts

more soon...

Just posting them doesn't actually prove anything. It seems you posted the first link a long time ago here. Why don't you change something in that bandcamp link? Not sure how much it'll help but it's better than nothing.

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Ah, I see Mushroomized have vouched for OP. Didn't see that post.

                                                                       
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July 31, 2016, 05:05:27 PM
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So whats the discussion about even? Is there still an unpaid loan or is just the normal paranoia that keeps this going?

The loan never actually happened. Just more people shouting the virtues of paranoia from the rooftops as the only solution.

Understatement.
Whoever had that account before asked for a 0.38BTC loan, was looking for a 0.6BTC paypal/skrill/payza/wmz trade, and was selling that account. All that in the same day.

Also said something about having recovered the account (no proof) shortly after being called out. This means whoever had that account before fully intended to scam.

Besides, OP have not brought any sort of proof to this thread.
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I get that the story smells like shit, but I also see the point TECSHARE made.

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So whats the discussion about even? Is there still an unpaid loan or is just the normal paranoia that keeps this going?

The loan never actually happened. Just more people shouting the virtues of paranoia from the rooftops as the only solution.

Understatement.

Yeah, it was quite an understatement, they aren't people, more like bored obsessive compulsive noob losers with nothing better to do than give themselves the illusion that they lord over people under the pretext of "protecting the community" from scams that never happened supposedly perpetrated by users that have been active longer than they even knew Bitcoin existed.

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August 06, 2016, 04:33:45 PM
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Awesome trust rating is now back to normal!!!

A healthy reminder to not change your password back to your original one. that data has been SOLD. fucking assholes.

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August 08, 2016, 09:04:25 PM
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Gratz OP.

So whats the discussion about even? Is there still an unpaid loan or is just the normal paranoia that keeps this going?

The loan never actually happened. Just more people shouting the virtues of paranoia from the rooftops as the only solution.

Understatement.

Yeah, it was quite an understatement, they aren't people, more like bored obsessive compulsive noob losers with nothing better to do than give themselves the illusion that they lord over people under the pretext of "protecting the community" from scams that never happened supposedly perpetrated by users that have been active longer than they even knew Bitcoin existed.

Just saw this post now. Funny how you think there's anything wrong with "protecting the community" from scams that never happened but was attempted. And that being active longer makes them right.  Roll Eyes

But whatever, too tired to argue.

                                                                       
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August 12, 2016, 12:27:33 AM
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Gratz OP.

So whats the discussion about even? Is there still an unpaid loan or is just the normal paranoia that keeps this going?

The loan never actually happened. Just more people shouting the virtues of paranoia from the rooftops as the only solution.

Understatement.

Yeah, it was quite an understatement, they aren't people, more like bored obsessive compulsive noob losers with nothing better to do than give themselves the illusion that they lord over people under the pretext of "protecting the community" from scams that never happened supposedly perpetrated by users that have been active longer than they even knew Bitcoin existed.

Just saw this post now. Funny how you think there's anything wrong with "protecting the community" from scams that never happened but was attempted. And that being active longer makes them right.  Roll Eyes

But whatever, too tired to argue.

What is funny is you think you are protecting the community, and being active longer means experience and invested time in ones identity & not running around condemning people burning their reputations because you personally have no stake in it. Perhaps you should spend a bit more time pondering that Latin phrase under your avatar.

BITCOINTALK STAFF SELECTIVELY ENFORCE THE RULES IN AN ATTEMPT TO CREATE A CHILL EFFECT AND PERMANENTLY REMOVE ME AND OTHERS FROM THIS FORUM AS RETALIATION FOR SPEAKING OUT ABOUT THEIR ABUSIVE BEHAVIOR, AND THAT OF THEIR PERSONAL CLIQUES.
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