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Zombie coins are unfunded by definition Smiley

I couldn't find the thread, but here is a quote from vizique's website: (http://physicalbitcoins.co.uk/?product=microsoul-0-01btc-brass-error-coin)

"Product Description
Microsoul 2014 0.01BTC Brass bitcoin

One of the rarer microsoul coins in existence because of an error discovered by Matthew early on in the minting process. The QR codes used for the private keys were not printing correctly due to an incorrect font. As soon as the issue was realised a recall was issued.

This is one of 12 that had been ordered, delivered and not returned.

It also contains the error on the (series 1) hologram with the spelling of microsoul reading “micrasoul”


The more you learn, interesting anecdote, cheers!

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For additional clarity. The above is a mixture of sources.

The quote from me above was in respect of some coins that I had bought from Matthew and was subsequently requested to return.

the rest of the information is taken from Elias's Encyclopedia of Bitcoin.

I still have the original email requesting the return of the coins. Mail dated  03/06/14

".... and I will replace all affected coins free of charge obviously. However all 12 of the ones I sold to you are affected. Do you have any of them left?
Regards,
Matthew"

As items go these coins are, I believe, quite rare as most customers returned their faulty coins. I was unable to at the time and them forgot as life got in the way. A shame on one level as I missed out on my BTC but history seems to be repaying me Tongue

Of the 12 I had, I know of only 2 of them (that I gave away to friends and family) that are in "safe" hands, I have 3 left and have sold 1.
So, that's 6 of the 12 with definite provenance and still in "circulation"





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August 02, 2016, 09:49:03 AM
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For additional clarity. The above is a mixture of sources.

The quote from me above was in respect of some coins that I had bought from Matthew and was subsequently requested to return.

the rest of the information is taken from Elias's Encyclopedia of Bitcoin.

I still have the original email requesting the return of the coins. Mail dated  03/06/14

".... and I will replace all affected coins free of charge obviously. However all 12 of the ones I sold to you are affected. Do you have any of them left?
Regards,
Matthew"

As items go these coins are, I believe, quite rare as most customers returned their faulty coins. I was unable to at the time and them forgot as life got in the way. A shame on one level as I missed out on my BTC but history seems to be repaying me Tongue

Of the 12 I had, I know of only 2 of them (that I gave away to friends and family) that are in "safe" hands, I have 3 left and have sold 1.
So, that's 6 of the 12 with definite provenance and still in "circulation"


There used to be a list of the zombies, when Gravs site was up. Not sure if that was for all Zombies made, or all zombies left following partial returns.

I kept a few of these zombies back (but not as many as your 12, maybe 5), and I know one other user (Miffman) who kept some also (who had bought in bulk from me, before the zombie error had been realised).... unsure how many they kept and how many they returned as they dealt with Grav direct for the returns / swaps

I seem to recall 90ish zombies were made in total (From memory I had 50 of them before selling 20 - 30 in bulk to Miffman and  returning 15 - 25 back to Grav myself). Dont know how many were returned by Miffman, and how many were left with him.

There must have been 30 ish sold to other users, that also may or may not have been returned in full

Grav would need to give definitive numbers, if they are available. It sounds like minimum of 20, maximum of 75. If my ballpark reckoning is somewhere near. Miffman may be able to narrow that band down a bit, if Grav cant.
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August 02, 2016, 10:36:22 AM
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For additional clarity. The above is a mixture of sources.

The quote from me above was in respect of some coins that I had bought from Matthew and was subsequently requested to return.

the rest of the information is taken from Elias's Encyclopedia of Bitcoin.

I still have the original email requesting the return of the coins. Mail dated  03/06/14

".... and I will replace all affected coins free of charge obviously. However all 12 of the ones I sold to you are affected. Do you have any of them left?
Regards,
Matthew"

As items go these coins are, I believe, quite rare as most customers returned their faulty coins. I was unable to at the time and them forgot as life got in the way. A shame on one level as I missed out on my BTC but history seems to be repaying me Tongue

Of the 12 I had, I know of only 2 of them (that I gave away to friends and family) that are in "safe" hands, I have 3 left and have sold 1.
So, that's 6 of the 12 with definite provenance and still in "circulation"


There used to be a list of the zombies, when Gravs site was up. Not sure if that was for all Zombies made, or all zombies left following partial returns.

I kept a few of these zombies back (but not as many as your 12, maybe 5), and I know one other user (Miffman) who kept some also (who had bought in bulk from me, before the zombie error had been realised).... unsure how many they kept and how many they returned as they dealt with Grav direct for the returns / swaps

I seem to recall 90ish zombies were made in total (From memory I had 50 of them before selling 20 - 30 in bulk to Miffman and  returning 15 - 25 back to Grav myself). Dont know how many were returned by Miffman, and how many were left with him.

There must have been 30 ish sold to other users, that also may or may not have been returned in full

Grav would need to give definitive numbers, if they are available. It sounds like minimum of 20, maximum of 75. If my ballpark reckoning is somewhere near. Miffman may be able to narrow that band down a bit, if Grav cant.


I had 12 and destroyed 9 of them I think. Can't fully remember, but I know I had 3 or less. I still have some the blanks which I give away now and then.














 

 

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I had 12 and destroyed 9 of them I think. Can't fully remember, but I know I had 3 or less. I still have some the blanks which I give away now and then.

Edit, I actually can't remember how many coins I had before I destroyed some. I'll look through the old messages tonight and find out. I definitely only had 3 or less zombie coins though.














 

 

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August 02, 2016, 01:51:20 PM
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As i know and own some , there are two 2013 0.01 btc zombie error coins
one is funded and one is unfunded(it had wrong privkeys) and there are only 10 of unfunded ones , no idea on quantity of funded

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August 02, 2016, 02:47:11 PM
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As i know and own some , there are two 2013 0.01 btc zombie error coins
one is funded and one is unfunded(it had wrong privkeys) and there are only 10 of unfunded ones , no idea on quantity of funded

GOod luck Cheesy

There are no funded zombies, they are zombies as they are unfunded. They look the same as series 1 0.01 2013 coins, as they were intended to be those coins, but are different

As above, funding for the zombie coins was sent to a different incorrect address (and lost). The key under the hologram corresponded to a different (unknown) address, and as such the coins couldnt be funded

If Miffman only kept 3, I kept 5 ish, Viz had 12. Thats 20. I know Grav kept at least a couple. Not sure of the source of MJ's. There are also the 30 or so coins that may or may not have been returned (approx 1/3 of the rest of them had been kept, so perhaps 10 of these survived ... ?). Best guess is 30 - 33 of them remained as zombies, rather than getting returned and rekeyed / holod

Funded coins, there were many. 100's rather than 10's.
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August 02, 2016, 03:49:57 PM
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As i know and own some , there are two 2013 0.01 btc zombie error coins
one is funded and one is unfunded(it had wrong privkeys) and there are only 10 of unfunded ones , no idea on quantity of funded

GOod luck Cheesy

There are no funded zombies, they are zombies as they are unfunded. They look the same as series 1 0.01 2013 coins, as they were intended to be those coins, but are different

As above, funding for the zombie coins was sent to a different incorrect address (and lost). The key under the hologram corresponded to a different (unknown) address, and as such the coins couldnt be funded

If Miffman only kept 3, I kept 5 ish, Viz had 12. Thats 20. I know Grav kept at least a couple. Not sure of the source of MJ's. There are also the 30 or so coins that may or may not have been returned (approx 1/3 of the rest of them had been kept, so perhaps 10 of these survived ... ?). Best guess is 30 - 33 of them remained as zombies, rather than getting returned and rekeyed / holod

Funded coins, there were many. 100's rather than 10's.

ah! i might have it wrong in my stat then
thanks for clarifying
anyway , i got one as well Smiley

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August 02, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
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As i know and own some , there are two 2013 0.01 btc zombie error coins
one is funded and one is unfunded(it had wrong privkeys) and there are only 10 of unfunded ones , no idea on quantity of funded

GOod luck Cheesy

There are no funded zombies, they are zombies as they are unfunded. They look the same as series 1 0.01 2013 coins, as they were intended to be those coins, but are different

As above, funding for the zombie coins was sent to a different incorrect address (and lost). The key under the hologram corresponded to a different (unknown) address, and as such the coins couldnt be funded

If Miffman only kept 3, I kept 5 ish, Viz had 12. Thats 20. I know Grav kept at least a couple. Not sure of the source of MJ's. There are also the 30 or so coins that may or may not have been returned (approx 1/3 of the rest of them had been kept, so perhaps 10 of these survived ... ?). Best guess is 30 - 33 of them remained as zombies, rather than getting returned and rekeyed / holod

Funded coins, there were many. 100's rather than 10's.

Gravitate sold me 2 zombie coins a while ago. 1 funded and 1 unfunded. I know the private keys don't match but technically the coin got funded (it just can't be redeemed Grin).
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August 03, 2016, 01:46:57 PM
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I've been doing a little digging and found this reply from Gravitate:

what does "series 1 'zombie'" mean? Thanks for dating me up.

There was a problem with 1 of the batches. The printed wallet address on the coin did not match the coins private key (a software issue as I recall). This happened for a number of coins, and they were recalled by Gravitate (the coins were still with resellers who had bought in bulk as I remember). Unfortunately for Gravitate funding was made to an address that wasnt 'in the coins', so was effectively burned bitcoins.

Whilst the vast majority of these coins were returned, a few managed to remain in the wild. No digital value, but rare and collectable.

Gravitate - what was the final number of Zombies that were left out there ?
Im working on a register of mintages at the moment along with a new web site but not too many. I am aiming for the register to be complete before the 14th of this month. I did track down most of the zombies as soon as I realised. There is one buyer who has 20 of them and I have asked for them to be returned and I will give him a few free coins for his troubles (and pay postage) but after a year of asking I still haven't had them. So it depends on if I get these back or not but I do expect to get them. I think the buyer is busy and just has not had time yet.
The mistake was a printing one. I used different software to try speed up the process and  it ended up that the complete private key was not shown.
All of the coins still out there are guaranteed to be replaced if required but some people want to keep hold of them.
Making these coins certainly has been stormy I must say. First banned on ebay and paypal for selling them (this was from people doing reverse charge backs on me which I can never understand), then the zombie coins, then 6000 Euros worth of coins go missing in customs. But I am still ploughing ahead.
The Chinese lunar coins are underway which I hope will be amazing and appeal to the non- bitcoin community also to spread the bitcoin word. I am attempting a sticker with a clear window in this time and vanitygen for the bitcoin addresses. So exciting coins to come and I hope no more problems.

So the way I read it is that there isn't a mix-up of the private keys. The private keys were only partially printed so that's why the coins can't be redeemed. So there is definitely a difference between funded and unfunded zombie error coins. Gravitate sold me a funded and unfunded coin some time ago and he told me it was only one of the few unfunded zombie error coins that he has sold.

The current high bid is 0.12 BTC Grin
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