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July 31, 2016, 06:06:33 PM
Last edit: September 22, 2023, 09:12:37 AM by BetKing.io
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Hi
I decided to make an official thread for investors of https://betking.io here where I'll do a weekly list of investments with total invested.

Feel free to ask any questions, I may have forgotten something in this first post.

For daily and total wagered, profit, bets, invested stats visit https://dicesites.com/betking to get data going back to November 2014.

To anyone new:
https://betking.io has been open for over 3 years now and has become the most trusted and popular crowdfunded dice/casino site.
We have the most invested, the most wagered and the most profit of all crowdfunded sites.

At this time there's 7079 invested with 393,319 wagered and 6260 profit.

https://betking.io charges commission by taking 25% of the weekly profit (made from player losses) and 25% of the edge on wagered amounts at the time of bet whether the player wins or loses. The weekly profit commission is only charged on new profit.

The crowdfunded bankroll is used on the dice and social dice games. Everything else is funded by https://betking.io

To invest click on the site bankroll link on the left menu of the site or go here https://betking.io/play#siteBankroll

Proof of funds:
We used to keep all investor funds in one cold storage address so that investors could make sure their funds were still safe.
I decided to change to the method of keeping the cold storage addresses private as players were reporting that exchange sites like Coinbase were closing peoples accounts.

I know this is a massive red flag for potential new investors.

I have run the site for a long time though and built up a lot of trust and I am open to the idea of having a trusted member do an audit to prove I still have the funds every few months.

This was last done by dooglus on 7th July 2016
I sent dooglus a signed message from Betking cold storage addresses that he can verify and prove solvency.

I received a signature for a message that said:
  'this is a betking cold storage address'

The address which was used to create the signature contains a little over 4500 BTC.

Dean tells me there's ~100 BTC in the hot wallet too.

So that's a proof of assets. For real proof of solvency we would also need to see a proof of liabilities (ie. investment amounts) to make sure that liabilities don't exceed assets. The danger is that there are 10 investors each having invested around 1000 BTC, so the total liabilities are over 10k. I'm not suggesting that this is the case, merely that it is possible if each investor doesn't have a way of making sure his coins are counted in the claimed total.

Proof of solvency:
As dooglus pointed out above just because I show I own a certain amount of funds doesn't prove solvency.
So here is a list of all invested amounts over 0.01 (user id's removed).

Last updated 19/10/2016

1346.0143593
 747.22452597
 669.41942611
 468.94999299
 451.10990926
 257.46333326
 187.01218113
 157.34373651
 151.30173150
 140.71509943
 120.06837422
 111.75655438
 105.32987930
 105.24590521
 104.10928499
  84.69446198
  84.35526517
  82.73238892
  57.13066634
  51.32114018
  47.14814802
  37.39862527
  34.66730856
  29.47010303
  27.74936844
  27.34174768
  25.89806963
  25.45465069
  22.31892710
  21.90848524
  21.50203527
  21.30597741
  18.57367461
  18.07136619
  17.80485910
  16.67733054
  14.93098164
  13.67702655
  13.53214835
  13.05845481
  11.42781475
  10.68404659
  10.54039476
  10.49566914
  10.44722437
  10.31280260
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   8.95672492
   8.55640933
   7.91316112
   7.42961345
   7.30486246
   6.83041761
   6.66876219
   6.54013816
   6.37266431
   5.74126780
   5.65399395
   5.64252650
   5.63303295
   5.49838690
   5.18172381
   5.17996925
   5.15990322
   4.52636500
   4.26488639
   3.63861437
   3.46602751
   3.39602682
   3.30978743
   3.11218910
   3.01674154
   2.29970099
   2.07170975
   2.05866437
   2.01217696
   1.83228849
   1.64548567
   1.53241704
   1.50700433
   1.43672655
   1.37215005
   1.19616118
   1.17511985
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   0.68116673
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   0.51591166
   0.40831090
   0.33602609
   0.31219618
   0.24855426
   0.24245938
   0.19231209
   0.19215688
   0.16531393
   0.16493511
   0.15570270
   0.12143151
   0.10076129
   0.10032539
   0.09475561
   0.06191310
   0.04020595
   0.01478726
   0.01231640
   0.01230252
   0.01216618
   0.01005752
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August 01, 2016, 08:32:42 PM
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Hey Look! I'm there as well!

Will the OP be updated every week or will you make a new post with the list every week?

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August 03, 2016, 10:17:01 AM
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Hey Look! I'm there as well!

Will the OP be updated every week or will you make a new post with the list every week?

I'll probably update the OP and bump it.

Though there's not really much interest in this thread anyway so not much point by the looks of it?
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August 04, 2016, 04:42:14 PM
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No need to bump the thread really.  I'd say to just put a link to this thread in the OP of the main Betking thread, and keep this updated once a week, similar to how Doog does it.  If you REALLY want to be similar to him, start a blog to keep it updated and link that on the main Betking page as well as the thread.
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August 04, 2016, 07:38:23 PM
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I invested to Betking.io with 1 BTC in last months and wait for 2 weeks, I didnt get profit.

Could you please share your average monthly profit for investors?

If it is fine now, I can invest with my fund.

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August 06, 2016, 05:04:24 AM
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Some losses for investors tonight. Player "norightturnplease" won BTC210: https://i.imgur.com/iTU40ay.png



I invested to Betking.io with 1 BTC in last months and wait for 2 weeks, I didnt get profit.

Could you please share your average monthly profit for investors?

If it is fine now, I can invest with my fund.
Players can win (big) too, so there is no guaranteed winnings. In the long-term you should get a profit of course though. You can look at the graphs here: https://dicesites.com/betking to see how the total profit progresses and what your expected profit is based on wagered amounts.

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August 08, 2016, 12:03:30 PM
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Here's the latest list of invested amounts

  933.58030060
  846.03117074
  641.00887625
  333.62154285
  300.90821085
  145.30178389
  107.57689181
   99.48227934
   97.28165999
   90.01201874
   73.05750069
   72.99925576
   60.75820829
   54.59470639
   31.67972302
   28.27389326
   25.15585271
   23.93640030
   23.60642761
   21.22668646
   20.95972686
   20.44065822
   18.96441688
   17.90152074
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   15.81233859
   15.51329411
   15.19587008
   14.80822630
   12.14913283
   11.56750662
   11.44382833
   11.05337016
   10.99402471
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    9.69292596
    9.67195189
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    8.99660087
    8.63094942
    7.92640776
    7.15302797
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    1.09853127
    1.07655450
    1.06289446
    0.96110485
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    0.38377090
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    0.23440951
    0.17442706
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    0.01876851
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August 11, 2016, 03:24:56 AM
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Any chance of signing a message from the address that holds those funds, or you can't do that with cold storages?
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August 13, 2016, 04:28:37 AM
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Went ahead and invested a bit, going to hope for some nice winnings for BetKing!

Praying over here.




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August 14, 2016, 05:47:19 PM
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Went ahead and invested a bit, going to hope for some nice winnings for BetKing!

Praying over here.

You invested at the right time by the sounds of it. Site profit increased 380 Bitcoin this morning.
After a few weeks of losing almost 500 Bitcoin from site peak profit things are looking up for investors.
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August 15, 2016, 06:36:17 AM
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Nice soultion for not have proof of cold wallet. Get audit from dooglus.


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August 15, 2016, 06:50:44 AM
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Nice soultion for not have proof of cold wallet. Get audit from dooglus.

You can always divest if you don't trust it.

Dooglus already done an audit, it's posted in the OP! I said I could do this every 6 months or something.

I spoke to most of those in the top 10 investors and they are happy to not have a single proof address as they know they can trust the site.
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August 15, 2016, 07:07:41 AM
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Nice soultion for not have proof of cold wallet. Get audit from dooglus.

You can always divest if you don't trust it.

Dooglus already done an audit, it's posted in the OP! I said I could do this every 6 months or something.

I spoke to most of those in the top 10 investors and they are happy to not have a single proof address as they know they can trust the site.


I just said it was a nice solution. And i trust it and you


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August 15, 2016, 07:14:54 AM
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Nice soultion for not have proof of cold wallet. Get audit from dooglus.

You can always divest if you don't trust it.

Dooglus already done an audit, it's posted in the OP! I said I could do this every 6 months or something.

I spoke to most of those in the top 10 investors and they are happy to not have a single proof address as they know they can trust the site.


I just said it was a nice solution. And i trust it and you

Sorry, I had just woke up and misread that. You know that's the sort of thing people troll in the chat so read it wrong.

I'll stay off forums for a few hours after I first wake up Smiley

Will post invested amounts later today
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August 15, 2016, 07:57:36 AM
Last edit: August 15, 2016, 08:57:45 PM by gamblingbad
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Nice soultion for not have proof of cold wallet. Get audit from dooglus.

You can always divest if you don't trust it.

Dooglus already done an audit, it's posted in the OP! I said I could do this every 6 months or something.

I spoke to most of those in the top 10 investors and they are happy to not have a single proof address as they know they can trust the site.


I just said it was a nice solution. And i trust it and you

Sorry, I had just woke up and misread that. You know that's the sort of thing people troll in the chat so read it wrong.

I'll stay off forums for a few hours after I first wake up Smiley

Will post invested amounts later today

No problem.


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August 15, 2016, 08:47:15 PM
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we invested 1 BTC in behalf of  www.cryptomerian.com.

hope return will be good for our investors...

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August 15, 2016, 09:40:45 PM
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we invested 1 BTC in behalf of  www.cryptomerian.com.

hope return will be good for our investors...

Thanks. Good luck
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September 01, 2016, 04:35:56 AM
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I actually really feel bad for the player, despite that I was slowly losing my investment last few weeks.. but yeh, huge profit day for investors:



Biggest profit spike BetKing has ever seen. If you invested yesterday, you would have had 26% profit in 1 day.

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September 04, 2016, 02:13:01 AM
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Here is our Bitcoin Investment post update - http://bitcoingamblingreviews.com/bitcoin-gambling-investments-112/

Betking.io returns have been by far the greatest so far  Cool

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October 19, 2016, 02:52:32 PM
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Updated investor amounts/profit stats
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