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[Roboabhishek]

The campaign manager has not been active in this forum since July 11, 2017, 02:08:32 PM. When will our post count be checked and when will we receive payment for stage 21? Will there be any delays?

Yeah I'm also curious if the campaign will continue. Maybe the guy is in holiday or so. However some short announcement if we continue with another stage or not would be appreciated.

I  was planning to apply here but now i see members here complaining that OP not active. This is one of the oldest campaigns i think.

Nobody is complaining so far I'd say.
We're just curious if everything is ok and the campaign will keep going.

Yes, that's true we should wait and see what happens instead of complaining maybe the manager is on leave.
But I think there's a possibility that we will be paid before 29th July.
I will not mind if it takes a bit more than that.
And I hope you all agree with me.
Robo

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[pereira4]

Anyone knows when the stage 22 starts?

According to this message from manager: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571148.msg15770755#msg15770755
Stage 22 was started yesterday.

What message? Your link just points to the OP, which says nothing about Stage 22.

Last month I already a problem with the payment, the guy was not around so there was a pretty big delay in the payment... he should be around more often, or else people start getting nervous.

[Roboabhishek]

Anyone knows when the stage 22 starts?

According to this message from manager: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571148.msg15770755#msg15770755
Stage 22 was started yesterday.

What message? Your link just points to the OP, which says nothing about Stage 22.

Last month I already a problem with the payment, the guy was not around so there was a pretty big delay in the payment... he should be around more often, or else people start getting nervous.

Oh, I am sorry.
I didn't read everything manager said in this message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571148.msg20015654#msg20015654
Maybe I think there will be no 22nd Stage.
I really want this campaign to have more stages. Lets hope for it

[Lipe490]

I would like to join if still available! Thank you!

[BetcoinCasino]

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 22 Bonus: n/a

No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

[tyz]

Thanks for letting us know. Does the "n/a" mean that the campaign ends on 24th August 2017?

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 22 Bonus: n/a

No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

[uki]

Thanks for the confirmation.
I guess that n/a means that there is no bonus, but the campaign runs normally.

[cjmoles]

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 22 Bonus: n/a

No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

Payments shipped?  Was I missed?

[uki]

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
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No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

Payments shipped?  Was I missed?

Not yet.  I haven't received either. We need to be more patient.

[Daniel91]

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 22 Bonus: n/a

No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

Payments shipped?  Was I missed?

Not yet.  I haven't received either. We need to be more patient.

They are paying already 2 years, always on time so I don't worry about payments.

[cjmoles]

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 22 Bonus: n/a

No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

Payments shipped?  Was I missed?

Not yet.  I haven't received either. We need to be more patient.

They are paying already 2 years, always on time so I don't worry about payments.

This is my concern:  Betcoin is already choosing a chain before it's decided which chain gets the most support....we don't have access to any of our private keys....if we can't get our BTC off site before the split, then we are losing....right?

[JayJuanGee]

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 22 Bonus: n/a

No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

Payments shipped?  Was I missed?

Not yet.  I haven't received either. We need to be more patient.

They are paying already 2 years, always on time so I don't worry about payments.

This is my concern:  Betcoin is already choosing a chain before it's decided which chain gets the most support....we don't have access to any of our private keys....if we can't get our BTC off site before the split, then we are losing....right?

Your comment has a lot of assumptions.

There is no question about which chain has the most support, there is only a question about whether to recognize bitcoin cash, at all.

I doubt anyone is trying to figure out which chain is going to have majority support, especially when one of them (hint: bitcoin cash) is a renegade chain of a bunch of immature nutjobs who are engaging in opportunism, disruption and emotional self-centeredness.

If you think that there is any debate on the topic, then probably you have been hanging out too much at r/btc. 

[cjmoles]

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 22 Bonus: n/a

No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

Payments shipped?  Was I missed?

Not yet.  I haven't received either. We need to be more patient.

They are paying already 2 years, always on time so I don't worry about payments.

This is my concern:  Betcoin is already choosing a chain before it's decided which chain gets the most support....we don't have access to any of our private keys....if we can't get our BTC off site before the split, then we are losing....right?

Your comment has a lot of assumptions.

There is no question about which chain has the most support, there is only a question about whether to recognize bitcoin cash, at all.

I doubt anyone is trying to figure out which chain is going to have majority support, especially when one of them (hint: bitcoin cash) is a renegade chain of a bunch of immature nutjobs who are engaging in opportunism, disruption and emotional self-centeredness.

If you think that there is any debate on the topic, then probably you have been hanging out too much at r/btc. 

No....I received emails from coinbase, xapo, several exchanges....etc....all stopping deposits and withdrawals until the dust settles....it's not assumption.....so if i can't get my coin off of betcoin before those exchangers temporarily close down, then my bitcoin is stuck.....AND bitcoin cash (BCC) isn't an assumption.....it's gonna be a fork....and it WILL have value.  So, if we can't secure our coin into a privately secure wallet before the split, then we are losing any value attributed bitcoin cash ----> not an assumption ----> a fact.

[Kolder]

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 22 Bonus: n/a

No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

Payments shipped?  Was I missed?

Not yet.  I haven't received either. We need to be more patient.

They are paying already 2 years, always on time so I don't worry about payments.

This is my concern:  Betcoin is already choosing a chain before it's decided which chain gets the most support....we don't have access to any of our private keys....if we can't get our BTC off site before the split, then we are losing....right?

Your comment has a lot of assumptions.

There is no question about which chain has the most support, there is only a question about whether to recognize bitcoin cash, at all.

I doubt anyone is trying to figure out which chain is going to have majority support, especially when one of them (hint: bitcoin cash) is a renegade chain of a bunch of immature nutjobs who are engaging in opportunism, disruption and emotional self-centeredness.

If you think that there is any debate on the topic, then probably you have been hanging out too much at r/btc. 

No....I received emails from coinbase, xapo, several exchanges....etc....all stopping deposits and withdrawals until the dust settles....it's not assumption.....so if i can't get my coin off of betcoin before those exchangers temporarily close down, then my bitcoin is stuck.....AND bitcoin cash (BCC) isn't an assumption.....it's gonna be a fork....and it WILL have value.  So, if we can't secure our coin into a privately secure wallet before the split, then we are losing any value attributed bitcoin cash ----> not an assumption ----> a fact.

Not right at all. It depends on the wallet provider the decision on where they want to connect, But the majority of wallet provider as well as exchange will stick on BTC. Only few miner support BCC not exceeding 20%. Don't get over hype that your money will be stuck because betcoin is not an idiot.

[cjmoles]

Hi, we have just finished counting your posts and in a few hours you will receive a payment on your account. Unfortunately the bonuses are still suspended, but we will inform you of any changes. Thank you very much.


Stage 22: 2017-07-26 00:01 Forum time   -  2017-08-24 23:59 Forum Time
Stage 22 Bonus: n/a

No free spots available. You can apply for queue spot. Queue participants do not earn for their posts and avatars. Please read our OP. Thank you.

Payments shipped?  Was I missed?

Not yet.  I haven't received either. We need to be more patient.

They are paying already 2 years, always on time so I don't worry about payments.

This is my concern:  Betcoin is already choosing a chain before it's decided which chain gets the most support....we don't have access to any of our private keys....if we can't get our BTC off site before the split, then we are losing....right?

Your comment has a lot of assumptions.

There is no question about which chain has the most support, there is only a question about whether to recognize bitcoin cash, at all.

I doubt anyone is trying to figure out which chain is going to have majority support, especially when one of them (hint: bitcoin cash) is a renegade chain of a bunch of immature nutjobs who are engaging in opportunism, disruption and emotional self-centeredness.

If you think that there is any debate on the topic, then probably you have been hanging out too much at r/btc.  

No....I received emails from coinbase, xapo, several exchanges....etc....all stopping deposits and withdrawals until the dust settles....it's not assumption.....so if i can't get my coin off of betcoin before those exchangers temporarily close down, then my bitcoin is stuck.....AND bitcoin cash (BCC) isn't an assumption.....it's gonna be a fork....and it WILL have value.  So, if we can't secure our coin into a privately secure wallet before the split, then we are losing any value attributed bitcoin cash ----> not an assumption ----> a fact.

Not right at all. It depends on the wallet provider the decision on where they want to connect, But the majority of wallet provider as well as exchange will stick on BTC. Only few miner support BCC not exceeding 20%. Don't get over hype that your money will be stuck because betcoin is not an idiot.

Betcoin already made the decision: https://www.betcoin.ag/bitcoin-hard-fork-our-position-service-will-run-no-restrictions  The question is thus, who keeps the perceived profits off of the coin on the alternate chain (BCC)?  The answer seems to be ---> the entity holding the private keys to the addresses those coins are held at when the fork is initiated.  Who's holding those private keys and who will get the profits if we can't secure them with our own private keys?  Xapo gave us the option to have the BCC automatically sold and converted to BTC and added to our balance....the exchanges have similar options....So, who gets the BCC profits held on betcoin?

EDIT: (Email from Xapo for reference)

"Important Update: Xapo and the Hard Fork

Hi cjmoles,

This communication is to explain what you can expect from Xapo in the event of a fork in the Bitcoin blockchain - which may occur on August 1st, 2017.

There is a proposal, known as Bitcoin Cash, that may create a fork in the Bitcoin network. This means that after August 1st, 2017 there may be two versions of the Bitcoin blockchain and two separate digital currencies: the original Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.
Xapo ensures the security of our customers’ bitcoins above all else and, in the event of a fork, your assets will be safe at Xapo.
We may, however, temporarily halt incoming and outgoing transfers from the Bitcoin network until we confirm that such transfers can be done safely.

We may also temporarily suspend the Xapo Debit Card and the conversion from dollars and other currencies to bitcoin and vice versa.

In other words, your assets will be safe at Xapo but you may not be able to transact for a period of time.

In the event of two surviving blockchains, we will support one blockchain, the one with the most accumulated difficulty.
Xapo will give you the choice to withdraw the coins in the secondary blockchain or to let Xapo sell the coins in that secondary blockchain and automatically add that value to your account in the supported blockchain. There is no estimated date as to when this will be determined, as it will be only when we deem it safe and sensible to do so.

So, if you would like to make bitcoin transactions during a fork, you will need to move your bitcoins out of Xapo before 23:00hrs UTC on July 31st. Any funds in the Vault that you would like to use during a fork will need to be retrieved from the Vault no later than 23:00 hrs UTC on July 28th so you have sufficient time to send them out of Xapo before the fork.

If you want to transact with any secondary digital currency that is created after August 1st, you should move your funds out of Xapo now. We do not have an estimated date for when the other supported blockchain will be safe to transact.
At Xapo, your bitcoins are secure and we allow you to decide what to do with the coins in your account.

The Xapo Team"

[uki]

In any case this month is very crucial to have the payments on time due to the planned fork.
It is a known issue and Betcoin.ag should have been prepared for that.
I am in the campaign from the very beginning and I know that the payments were always made in due time, but any delay this month would be very harmful indeed.

[Daniel91]

You all forget that you have other options here.
You don't need to withdraw funds from Betcoin.ag account and can just wait to see what happens after Aug 1.
Other option is to choose different crypto currency in your betcoin.ag account, , Etherum or Litecoin, and withdraw your earned funds like Etherum or Litecoin, not as bitcoin.

[uki]

You all forget that you have other options here.
You don't need to withdraw funds from Betcoin.ag account and can just wait to see what happens after Aug 1.
Other option is to choose different crypto currency in your betcoin.ag account, , Etherum or Litecoin, and withdraw your earned funds like Etherum or Litecoin, not as bitcoin.

Betcoin.ag didn't make any statements regarding BCC, so the only option in case of late payment is to eventually withdraw it in non-Bitcoin currency taking into account all the related risk (exchange ratio and recent ETH volatility).

[lorylore]

Hello,
I want to know has anyone got the stage 20 Bonus or I am the only one who didn't get it.
After 2 weeks I opened Charms & Clovers one of the casino games but I don't see any 5 credits we were supposed to get

you are not the only one , AFAIK many participants if not all of them didn't receive the bonus yet
maybe there is a bug in the bonus section , cause the stage will end in 2 or 3 days and they haven't announced what the prize is

Yup...You're not alone; I didn't receive the bonus either....I don't even use the casino bonuses so I haven't said anything about it....But, if it was the 250 poker tourney bonus I'd have spoken up. 

I am glad that i am not the only one that is yet to receive the payment. I have been with them since stage 1 so i believe in the campaign. We just have to be a bit more patient cause the bitcoin will surely come.

[thejaytiesto]

It's good to see you didn't leave, Betcoin.ag still kicking ass. Great campaign, hope to continue in here for a long time.

Regarding BCC: Just ignore it, don't bother setting up wallets or anything, it's meaningless. Stick to the real Bitcoin.