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August 01, 2016, 01:15:30 AM
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Sent some coins from my Electrum wallet and for some reason Dynamic fee with 75% multiplier so 0.00038989 BTC/kb was the fee.
It sent 0.0008851 fee for the transaction and its been about an hour with no confirmation.
I think this fee is way too low? What are my chances of this getting confirmed and what are my next steps if it doesn't show up by say, tomorrow morning?

Secondly, what should I set the fee to in my Electrum wallet?
It seems a little silly to let people send something with a fee that won't get your transaction confirmed...  Cry

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August 01, 2016, 01:17:32 AM
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0.00038989 BTC/kb was the fee.
That fee is enough for a pretty quick confirmation. I got a tx confirmed a few hours ago with only 0.00025/kb for the fee. Mind posting the transaction? It should definitely confirm by tomorrow morning.

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August 01, 2016, 01:48:37 AM
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Sent some coins from my Electrum wallet and for some reason Dynamic fee with 75% multiplier so 0.00038989 BTC/kb was the fee.
It sent 0.0008851 fee for the transaction and its been about an hour with no confirmation.
I think this fee is way too low? What are my chances of this getting confirmed and what are my next steps if it doesn't show up by say, tomorrow morning?

Secondly, what should I set the fee to in my Electrum wallet?
It seems a little silly to let people send something with a fee that won't get your transaction confirmed...  Cry


can't tell you and no one else can tell you since none of us know how big the tx id is.


not how much btc but how many bytes

the smallest a transaction can be in bytes is around 230  and a cheap fee works


but your   transaction may be 23000 bytes or 46000 bytes  and you need a really big fee.

so show the tx id  and we can guess.

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August 01, 2016, 04:16:00 AM
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OK it took a couple hours but it got confirmed.
I appreciate your guys help and have a couple quick questions-

1. what determines the size of a transaction? Wouldn't most transactions be the same amount of bytes?
The only thing I can think that would change the size would be sending to multiple addresses.

2. what method do you use to determine fees? I've seen some websites that do some calculation but I was pretty confused after reading them lol.  Roll Eyes

Appreciate the help I get in forum, you guys are all so amazing!


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August 01, 2016, 04:26:56 AM
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Sent some coins from my Electrum wallet and for some reason Dynamic fee with 75% multiplier so 0.00038989 BTC/kb was the fee.
It sent 0.0008851 (actually 0.00008851) fee for the transaction and its been about an hour with no confirmation.
I think this fee is way too low? What are my chances of this getting confirmed and what are my next steps if it doesn't show up by say, tomorrow morning?

Secondly, what should I set the fee to in my Electrum wallet?
It seems a little silly to let people send something with a fee that won't get your transaction confirmed...  Cry


can't tell you and no one else can tell you since none of us know how big the tx id is.
I can tell you, since I know how to read and do elementary arithmetic. Roll Eyes Correcting for the misplaced decimal point in the OP's post, it's 227 bytes.



OK it took a couple hours but it got confirmed.
Yes, a couple of hours is to be expected for that fee.

1. what determines the size of a transaction? Wouldn't most transactions be the same amount of bytes?
The only thing I can think that would change the size would be sending to multiple addresses.
That and the number of inputs to your transaction, that is, the transactions in which you received the coins that you are now sending (if you received them in many transactions, eg, from faucets, your transactions will be larger and require larger fees).

2. what method do you use to determine fees? I've seen some websites that do some calculation but I was pretty confused after reading them lol.  Roll Eyes
It's simple. You just look at past transactions that confirmed quickly (within a given number of blocks) and see what fees they paid on average. Since there are a lot of transactions to look at, it's best to have your software do it automatically.

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August 01, 2016, 11:19:03 PM
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Sent some coins from my Electrum wallet and for some reason Dynamic fee with 75% multiplier so 0.00038989 BTC/kb was the fee.
It sent 0.0008851 (actually 0.00008851) fee for the transaction and its been about an hour with no confirmation.
I think this fee is way too low? What are my chances of this getting confirmed and what are my next steps if it doesn't show up by say, tomorrow morning?

Secondly, what should I set the fee to in my Electrum wallet?
It seems a little silly to let people send something with a fee that won't get your transaction confirmed...  Cry


can't tell you and no one else can tell you since none of us know how big the tx id is.
I can tell you, since I know how to read and do elementary arithmetic. Roll Eyes Correcting for the misplaced decimal point in the OP's post, it's 227 bytes.



OK it took a couple hours but it got confirmed.
Yes, a couple of hours is to be expected for that fee.

1. what determines the size of a transaction? Wouldn't most transactions be the same amount of bytes?
The only thing I can think that would change the size would be sending to multiple addresses.
That and the number of inputs to your transaction, that is, the transactions in which you received the coins that you are now sending (if you received them in many transactions, eg, from faucets, your transactions will be larger and require larger fees).

2. what method do you use to determine fees? I've seen some websites that do some calculation but I was pretty confused after reading them lol.  Roll Eyes
It's simple. You just look at past transactions that confirmed quickly (within a given number of blocks) and see what fees they paid on average. Since there are a lot of transactions to look at, it's best to have your software do it automatically.

or it was 2270 bytes which is why I wanted to see the tx id.    the op obviously was unsure of his info  and as you point out may have had a wrong decimal place.  so all of his info becomes suspect in the sense that he is unfamiliar with the correct way to show us the numbers.   which is why I would have liked to have seen his tx id.

I can show multiple cases of which decimal place was wrong.  Without a tx id and the fact that it looked like he had wrong info  it is simpler to see the tx id.


@ the op  take a look at this tx id


https://blockchain.info/tx/7e7177dd38297825a67358ed88a86cb369e3fd0fa6eb26062a31e631ef54617c

it is 1 input and two out puts  it is the smallest size possible 227 bytes and coins were 0.093

@ op take a look at this tx id   many many inputs and the bytes are high over 9900  I paid a large fee to move it pretty fast

https://blockchain.info/tx/9e93576ab06b1fabe58336b343176375a919844fccbe1a3ee5984d5547274156

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August 02, 2016, 01:58:02 AM
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or it was 2270 bytes which is why I wanted to see the tx id.
Or you could do the math and see that 2,270 bytes doesn't add up. That would have a fee of 0.00088505 (or the fee per kb would be 0.00038991).

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August 02, 2016, 12:04:36 PM
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or it was 2270 bytes which is why I wanted to see the tx id.
Or you could do the math and see that 2,270 bytes doesn't add up. That would have a fee of 0.00088505 (or the fee per kb would be 0.00038991).

you have a point. 

I always like to see the tx id since many people get numbers wrong as the op did with 2 different versions of one number.
I then suspect any info given and seeing the tx id helps.

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