[FACTS] How Manipulated is Ethereum ?

[Spoetnik]

Let me put this into perspective for those of you still in denial..

*Most* people in Crypto have an account at Bitcointalk.
So we can safely guess at the level of support for an Altcoin by crunching some numbers..

Let's check out Ethereum !

Let's say it has a BILLION dollar MarketCap ..for the sake of argument (it's lower right now)
http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/ethereum/

THEN !

Let's have a look at the Bitcointalk Stats page..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

What do we see ?

Average registrations per day:    360.15
Average posts per day:    6432.44
Average topics per day:    290.41
Total Boards:    213
Latest Member:    joaowithj
Average online per day:    246.01
Male to Female Ratio:    3.9:1
Average page views per day:    1239514.01

Following me still ? Good let's continue

So what does Google tell me when i ask the following ?
https://encrypted.google.com/#safe=off&hl=en&q=1000000000.00+divided+by+246.01

1000000000.00 divided by 246.01

If we wanted to come up with a Billion dollars cash ALL of us
at Bitcoin talk that come here daily right now.. would need to fork over.. $4,064,875.41 each !

OVER 4 MILLION Dollars each.

Now i dare you fuckers to tell me ETH is not manipulated.

- Math ? Oh snap Spoetnik be FUD'in again !
- Liek omG good does anyone read his posts ?
- WOW why do you hate ALL Altcoins Spoetnik ?
- Spoetnik why don't you just IGNORE them if you don't like them ?
- Nice negative rating Spoetnik !
- Just ignore Spoetnik.. he's a TROLL !

Did i miss one ?

[Minecache]

Congratulations! Personally I didn't think it was possible, for you already being a Spoetniktard, but with this thread you've now out tarded yourself by a magnitude of x10.

[Spoetnik]

Congratulations! Personally I didn't think it was possible, for you already being a Spoetniktard, but with this thread you've now out tarded yourself by a magnitude of x10.

Your numbers are off it's 246.01

So just how big are those bags you admitted to clutching ?
Don't tell me you paid more than 4 million in REAL cash money ?

Uhhhh... Ohhhh me thinks this mETH head is in a lot of trouble  
Looks to me like ETH has dropped it's MarketCap by almost half a Billion dollars
and the price is cut in half down to sub $10 levels and you are scared shitless !

Jeez fraud boy you better hope those "BIG BANKS" keep buying "Shitloads" of ETH to "USE" it
Remember saying that sweetheart ?  

What a fucking FRAUD ROFL

PS:
Thank you.. so what is my PRIZE ?

[Blazed]

I agree that is obviously manipulated, but what crypto isn't? Most of these coins (including Bitcoin) are mostly unregulated. We are still in the wild west days full of pumps and dumps.

[Azael]

Not gonna include this then?

[GreenBits]

I agree that is obviously manipulated, but what crypto isn't? Most of these coins (including Bitcoin) are mostly unregulated. We are still in the wild west days full of pumps and dumps.

Those pumps are now illegal per SEC rules, its considered 'spoofing'.

While some of these coins are indeed subject to orchestrated price swings, I have respect for those that can move the more capitalized markets (btc, ETH, DOGE, etc). Lot of money being weilded.

[Spoetnik]

Not gonna include this then?

1000000000.00 divided by 8984 = $1,11,308.99

The POINT was to relay a concept to you all.
Get it ?

Or does each user on Poloniex have 1.1 million dollars spent on ETH ?

Get real kidiots.. cut the bloody moronic crap.
We all know damn well the majority in Crypto are poor ass dregs with barely any money.

Look at who has control on Steem.. what percentage is that ?
ETH is OBVIOUSLY no different.

Further more the comparison to Bitcoin being manipulated is not realistic.
Get real guys.. cut the crap.

Bitcoin was not..
Like ETH started as an ICO coin for profit making it coin number #5,621
ETH was caught manipulated unfairly on launch with 100 BTC blocks being bought up by ?
Who did that ?
That is like Satoshi launching a fucking ICO then coming back almost 2 years later
when no one was watching to run a massive organized pump & dump.
Where ETH had Butters publicly admit to dumping his "holdings" on you all.

Your attempts to parade ETH around as though it is comparable to bitcoin is simply laughable.
For one thing BTC is a CURRENCY.. ETH is a scammy ICO "Fuel Token" APP's / Smart Contract Platform
..for profit
It was made the way it was because blatant simple cloning fell out of favor.
A GIMMICK was needed !
Don't compare your half ass scammy knock off garbage (for profit)
With the REAL DEAL ..Bitcoin !

I will admit you are all as delusional as you are persistent.
How's that working out for ya ?  
Seems to me the popularity of ETC highlights that loud & clear.

APP's ? / Smart Contracts ?
Ohh yeaaah like all these scammy fuckers on Poloniex and on here CARE about "APP's"
Oh no they are not missing the train ..they are going to the moon.. hodling !
Because they are "Supporters"  

[Cast12]

Congratulations! Personally I didn't think it was possible, for you already being a Spoetniktard, but with this thread you've now out tarded yourself by a magnitude of x10.

Oh! Like the fact that you still keep advertising a ponzi? Doesn't matter if there's a contract, if there are no more investors, then the contract won't pay out at all, the funds are just simply stuck there(because you can't do shit unless you just pay out with your own funds). Honestly, I'm surprised you lasted this long without a negative trust from at least one DT member.

[Spoetnik]

Congratulations! Personally I didn't think it was possible, for you already being a Spoetniktard, but with this thread you've now out tarded yourself by a magnitude of x10.

Oh! Like the fact that you still keep advertising a ponzi? Doesn't matter if there's a contract, if there are no more investors, then the contract won't pay out at all, the funds are just simply stuck there(because you can't do shit unless you just pay out with your own funds). Honestly, I'm surprised you lasted this long without a negative trust from at least one DT member.

Probably because they have all been invested in the scam to get their slice..

Let's not forget about his mountain of claims he is amassing here.
"Big Banks", IBM and Microsoft ring a bell ?
How about preaching ETH will be worth $100 each within 12 months he said after the DAO attack ?

He is your classical / stereotypical Shill here that loiters around admitting to "going long"
while trying to spew bullshit at vulnerable users so they add value to his bags.

His type here are deceitful, predatory and irritating and a sad little crypto-cliche'd joke.

[Spoetnik]

$10.88 i see now for ETH
and the Cap was boosted back up to just under 900 million

Hmm i wonder why ?  

I hear it slipped to $7 a coin yesterday though.

I really wonder why do you all follow secret manipulators ?
Does this not seem like foolish enterprise ?
Aren't you all worried about getting burned ?

Like guys this topic is about "Manipulation"
Do you all think it's real or not ?

The size of the scene and amount of ALT users etc made that big of a cap ?
I honestly don't think so.. i think it's just manipulation to put on a show.. a facade !
A giant scammy charade !

[Azael]

Spoetnik please stop man. You're choosing to act completely retarded when you have a brain. You spread ignorance, you refuse evidence and you base your assumptions on fallacies. It's absolutely unbelievable that in one of your areas of expertise and I assume hobby you chose to be the absolute cancer.

Step it up man. I fucking hate waking up and having to see your shit everywhere.

[RoommateAgreement]

ethereum has started as a huge manipulation from the start and continued to be in this way up until today.
i sometimes even get the feeling that ETC is the same (follow up) manipulation by the whales.
who doesn't want to markets to pump and dump. today they pump ETC and tomorrow they will dumpt it and move to ETH and the next week back to ETC and so on until the coin is dead.

[Minecache]

Spoetnik please stop man. You're choosing to act completely retarded when you have a brain. You spread ignorance, you refuse evidence and you base your assumptions on fallacies. It's absolutely unbelievable that in one of your areas of expertise and I assume hobby you chose to be the absolute cancer.

Step it up man. I fucking hate waking up and having to see your shit everywhere.

You're not the only one. Each morning I wake up and see Spoetniktards filthy diatribes it makes my eyes hemorrhage and my brain deliquesce.

[bonipper]

I agree that is obviously manipulated, but what crypto isn't? Most of these coins (including Bitcoin) are mostly unregulated. We are still in the wild west days full of pumps and dumps.

There are pump groups with threads here that regularly brag about the latest coin they pumped and dumped. The high capitalisation coins probably get pumped by similar groups, but there's so much money involved those groups keep quiet. If they bragged about their schemes they could get into trouble from the market regulators like the SEC. I'm as sure as Blazed that all coins including ETH get manipulated at times.

[TrueAnon]

Yes all is manipulated but wth ppl need to understand ETH (and ETC) is super manipulation.  Yes you can win here or there but most will lose from the whales playing the books non stop.  The worst part is OVER valuation of something that is still UNproven and hackable.  Just sad.  Not saying there isn't potential....the whales exploited this amazingly to make the pump happen (and now dumps).  Now it's just floating in the water like a dead duck.

[btc_zero_sum]

Let me put this into perspective for those of you still in denial..

*Most* people in Crypto have an account at Bitcointalk.

complete total bullshit.
i know many people, from simple enthusiasts to developers to executives that are not here and will never be.
bitcointalk is seen as some kind of 4chan full of kids, trolls and misleading info.
the people building real bitcoin/alt infrastructure and services do not take seriously this forum and most people active here.

[Spoetnik]

As usual most of you are idiots who can't back up your mouth.
And YOU KNOW i can because i said shit that was PROVABLE.

Don't like the truth ?
Suck it up whiny scammy kidiot profiteers

ETH = SCAM

Why do you think money comes out of thin air with no victims dumb fucks ?
Where do you think that 1 million+ dollars Butters dumped for came from ?
Hint.. someone else's pockets !

And for 1,000000000000000000000000000000th time you sleazy little cunts ignoring me
WHERE did he get almost 10 million dollars in scammy ETH ICO coins from ?
Kinda funny how you all go silent when i ask 1 of 50 suspicious questions.
Hmmm i wonder why that is ?

And i am tired of you assholes so get the fuck out of MY crypto scene cunts.
Leave.
I am in charge and i am not taking your shit.. GTFO

Want money ? Get a job scammy fuck heads.

Think i am taking lip from a brigade of scammy little douche bag profiteers with hollow empty retorts ?

And yeah Most people do have an account here.. which is why there is just under 1 miillion accounts created.
So line up to buy "I am with stupid Coin" and maybe buy the T Shirt too !

[TrueAnon]

As usual most of you are idiots who can't back up your mouth.
And YOU KNOW i can because i said shit that was PROVABLE.

Don't like the truth ?
Suck it up whiny scammy kidiot profiteers

ETH = SCAM

Why do you think money comes out of thin air with no victims dumb fucks ?
Where do you think that 1 million+ dollars Butters dumped for came from ?
Hint.. someone else's pockets !

And for 1,000000000000000000000000000000th time you sleazy little cunts ignoring me
WHERE did he get almost 10 million dollars in scammy ETH ICO coins from ?
Kinda funny how you all go silent when i ask 1 of 50 suspicious questions.
Hmmm i wonder why that is ?

And i am tired of you assholes so get the fuck out of MY crypto scene cunts.
Leave.
I am in charge and i am not taking your shit.. GTFO

Want money ? Get a job scammy fuck heads.

Think i am taking lip from a brigade of scammy little douche bag profiteers with hollow empty retorts ?

And yeah Most people do have an account here.. which is why there is just under 1 miillion accounts created.
So line up to buy "I am with stupid Coin" and maybe buy the T Shirt too !

 

[target]

Most coins are manipulated though. ETH is just one of those but then eth is heavily manipulated and we already know that.
But then if you are with ETH during the start, it sure is a good opportunity. With great volume traded every day while the price starts as cheap until it grows. These are the factors a trader wants. Its still a good coin to trade still.

I'm stil unsure but ETC is acting like it though. maybe we'll notice it later. only its not controlled by anyone

[Minecache]

Let me put the record straight here, there is ZERO corroborating evidence to support any claim or accusation that ETH is manipulated. There is however a massive contingent of online criminals on this very fora who are desperately trying to talk up the ETC criminal coin. If you purchase just 0.00000001 ETC you deserve to be empty-bagged by the crooks.

I will touch on the market manipulation of the other shitcoinage in later posts.