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August 04, 2016, 12:28:22 AM
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EcuaMobi recently negged me for a no reason I deem unnecessary and no proof.
I only sell promo codes, and the buyer never get problems with kodes I'm selling.

RHavar has purchased my code, and him said no problem until today.
wetsuit has purchased my code, and him said no problem until today.

what I did wrong so that you give me red trust ?

everyone is entitled to benefit from the items they sell.

EcuaMobi please to be fair.

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August 04, 2016, 12:51:22 AM
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Laundering money. If you deal with this user you may get negative trust and legal problems.

which seems a bit unfair, and a bit of an overreach of the trust system. (Worldwide) is selling legitimate coupons, it's hard to call that money laundering or untrustworthy. As I understand it, most of the coupons are got by going to an event and then people who have no use for them resell them (which is indeed against the ToS).  Meanwhile a service that offers explicit bitcoin mixing/laundering is praised and given + trust here (as it should be).
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August 04, 2016, 01:00:10 AM
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Seems like the problem isn't your delivery, it's the very nature of what you're selling, which he thinks is probably carded or otherwise stolen goods.  And you know damn well the gift card and Dominos Pizza freebies are stolen goods.  So if you're selling that shit, yeah I'd say you're not trustworthy.

Trust isn't moderated on this forum, so the mods aren't going to do anything.  If you could show your codes/coupons aren't stolen then Ecuamobi might remove his feedback (I cannot speak for him).  Otherwise there's nothing you can do and coming here and complaining isn't going to you a damn bit of good.

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August 04, 2016, 01:02:23 AM
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Laundering money. If you deal with this user you may get negative trust and legal problems.

which seems a bit unfair, and a bit of an overreach of the trust system. (Worldwide) is selling legitimate coupons, it's hard to call that money laundering or untrustworthy. As I understand it, most of the coupons are got by going to an event and then people who have no use for them resell them (which is indeed against the ToS).  Meanwhile a service that offers explicit bitcoin mixing/laundering is praised and given + trust here (as it should be).
thank you very much for your support RHavar.

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August 04, 2016, 01:09:08 AM
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Seems like the problem isn't your delivery, it's the very nature of what you're selling, which he thinks is probably carded or otherwise stolen goods.  And you know damn well the gift card and Dominos Pizza freebies are stolen goods.  So if you're selling that shit, yeah I'd say you're not trustworthy.

Trust isn't moderated on this forum, so the mods aren't going to do anything.  If you could show your codes/coupons aren't stolen then Ecuamobi might remove his feedback (I cannot speak for him).  Otherwise there's nothing you can do and coming here and complaining isn't going to you a damn bit of good.
I do not say mods must remove red trust me.
I just want everybody here to know.
please for all who have a lot of +trust to be fair.
do not take advantage of your trust to destroy others.

Thank you for all member.

laundering money only for 20usd what its meaning.

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August 04, 2016, 01:14:25 AM
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And you know damn well the gift card and Dominos Pizza freebies are stolen goods.  So if you're selling that shit, yeah I'd say you're not trustworthy.

I doubt the coupons are stolen, if they were they wouldn't be valid. AFAIK you can't even buy them, they're just given out at events.

In fact I've bought, sold, been given and given out event coupons several times. (Most recently I was given a decent amount of Digital Ocean gift codes which I had no use for, so I sold them to someone who did). I'm not going to pretend it's allowed by the terms of service, but I don't think it makes me untrustworthy or a money launderer...
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August 04, 2016, 02:03:12 AM
Last edit: August 04, 2016, 02:35:01 AM by EcuaMobi
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Seems like the problem isn't your delivery, it's the very nature of what you're selling, which he thinks is probably carded or otherwise stolen goods
Indeed. I strongly believe OP is selling stolen goods because of the extreme low price and the fact he seems to have a lot of codes or even an unlimited quantity. OP can you explain how you get the codes? If I'm convinced the codes are not stolen then I'll remove the feedback. Even if the buyers haven't got any problems until now it doesn't mean the codes are legally obtained.

I doubt the coupons are stolen, if they were they wouldn't be valid. AFAIK you can't even buy them, they're just given out at events.

In fact I've bought, sold, been given and given out event coupons several times. (Most recently I was given a decent amount of Digital Ocean gift codes which I had no use for, so I sold them to someone who did). I'm not going to pretend it's allowed by the terms of service, but I don't think it makes me untrustworthy or a money launderer...
If that's the case with OP then I'll remove the negative. I'd need him to prove that's what happening.

do not take advantage of your trust to destroy others.
I don't. I just want to help stopping illegal market here.

laundering money only for 20usd what its meaning.
I'm not sure I understand this. Are you recognizing you're laundering money but you think $20 is too little to get negative trust?


RHavar, regarding the positive trust you left to OP:
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Sold me a whole set of legitimate coupons, he sent first and I paid for the ones that worked
Could you post more details about how many codes worked and how many didn't? Did OP say why some codes didn't work?

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August 04, 2016, 02:39:21 AM
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I searched google for "aws credits promo code 2016" (google suggested this as I was typing) and found this result.

It looks like one of the answers to that quora question claims that you can get free "gift cards" to aws just by visiting/attending events hosted by (participated by) aws. From what I can tell, it is not possible to purchase these gift cards/codes. It also appears to be against the TOS to resell/transfer the cards.

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August 04, 2016, 02:49:16 AM
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Seems like the problem isn't your delivery, it's the very nature of what you're selling, which he thinks is probably carded or otherwise stolen goods
Indeed. I strongly believe OP is selling stolen goods because of the extreme low price and the fact he seems to have a lot of codes or even an unlimited quantity. OP can you explain how you get the codes? If I'm convinced the codes are not stolen then I'll remove the feedback. Even if the buyers haven't got any problems until now it doesn't mean the codes are legally obtained.

yes have a lot of codes, but i not have an unlimited quantity, because enrollment event aws already closed, Now I only have old stock and exp is still long.

so how can I prove to you ?
you want a free code, I can give you want if it makes sense.

if you just want to help stopping illegal market here, this is good.

Now there are many illegal market here, please look for all markets, not just for me only

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August 04, 2016, 02:55:02 AM
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you want a free code, I can give you want if it makes sense.
How would that prove anything? No I don't want a code.

Please answer these questions:

laundering money only for 20usd what its meaning.
...Are you recognizing you're laundering money but you think $20 is too little to get negative trust?


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Sold me a whole set of legitimate coupons, he sent first and I paid for the ones that worked
...why some codes didn't work?

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August 04, 2016, 03:00:34 AM
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you want a free code, I can give you want if it makes sense.
How would that prove anything? No I don't want a code.

Please answer these questions:

laundering money only for 20usd what its meaning.
...Are you recognizing you're laundering money but you think $20 is too little to get negative trust?
I do not understand what you mean, Are you recognizing you're laundering money

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Sold me a whole set of legitimate coupons, he sent first and I paid for the ones that worked
...why some codes didn't work?
because I forget to segregate already sold and not yet sold

Edit: Do not find fault with others, ask yourself, if already you are correct.

after you leave a red trust at me then just delete it, You think it's pretty sir ?
many people think I scammer, because red trust of from your.

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August 04, 2016, 03:06:36 AM
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I searched google for "aws credits promo code 2016" (google suggested this as I was typing) and found this result.

It looks like one of the answers to that quora question claims that you can get free "gift cards" to aws just by visiting/attending events hosted by (participated by) aws. From what I can tell, it is not possible to purchase these gift cards/codes. It also appears to be against the TOS to resell/transfer the cards.
Thanks for the info.


I've removed the feedback.

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August 04, 2016, 03:12:24 AM
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I searched google for "aws credits promo code 2016" (google suggested this as I was typing) and found this result.

It looks like one of the answers to that quora question claims that you can get free "gift cards" to aws just by visiting/attending events hosted by (participated by) aws. From what I can tell, it is not possible to purchase these gift cards/codes. It also appears to be against the TOS to resell/transfer the cards.
Thanks for the info.


I've removed the feedback.
ok solved the problem. thanks for all member already support me.

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