MEMBERS OF ETHEREUM TO RETURN ETC TO DAO INVESTORS PETITION

[suchmoon]

why not?? if i was the white hat hacker i would. Why would i want to have any liability for the theft of millions of dollars of ETC. The legal implications is far far to great. The white hat hackers are known and respectable. Why would they want to carry that chip?

But it won't happen unless we let our voice known

Please sign the petition if you are a DAO holder and want your ETC back

Didn't DAO holders overwhelmingly "vote" for the ETH fork and to leave the ETC (original ETH chain) to die? Any such petition should have been filed before the fork, not that it would have made any difference though. You wanted a bailout, you got a bailout, I'm struggling to understand why the sudden interest in the the old "criminal" chain.

[DAOinvestorwantsETC]

@suchmoon no dao investor in their right mind would ask that, this is just low quality FUD from ETC/bitcoin side.

Speak for yourself...   DAOinvestorwantsETC might be making a mistake directing the claim towards the Foundation & risking to distance potential strong supporters, but you need to take a better look at the claim itself.

These ETC opportunist hypocrites got ETH + ETC (whereas The DAO token holders only got ETH), but they're running around all this time trying to convince everyone & their momma that it was The DAO token holders that got a bailout.  Yeah OK...  

In other words, get the word out & DO NOT involve the Foundation.  If there is a way for the white hats to send the ETC to a withdraw contract, it should be done...  PERIOD

Or do these ETC morons actually believe that keeping & splitting both currencies should be restricted for the bailout THEY got?



...and before any of you FUCKIN' RETARDS comes at me with drama, provide proof-of-burn for your respective ETH or STFU!!!  

The reason i am calling out the ethereum foundation is due to this

Q: Who are the Ethereum/DAO white hat hackers?

A: The public face of The Goodies (or Robin Hood as referred to in Update on the White Hat attack) is Alex Van de Sande. The other members have not been revealed to the public.

While he is not working on behalf of his employer as part of The Goodies, he is lead designer at the Ethereum Foundation. He is spearheading the Wallet and Mist project with the Go Ethereum team.




.................................................

Therefore it is part of Ethereum integrity  to do the right thing and return the funds.

Sure its specific members of the Ethereum team, however members make up a foundation.
Ethereum foundation had a major/pivotal role in the white hack attacks....... I don't see how i can not bring them into this.



But thanks for the support & please sign the petition.

[DAOinvestorwantsETC]

Sure its specific members of the Ethereum team, however members make up a foundation.
Ethereum foundation had a major/pivotal role in the white hack attacks....... I don't see how i can not bring them into this.

But thanks for the support & please sign the petition.

You are NOT going to get support if you continue to direct the claim towards the Foundation...   trust me.

MEMBERS OF ETHEREUM TEAM (WHITE HATS) TO RETURN ETC TO DAO HOLDERS -- Petition title changed & so did the introduction page -

Thanks for your input

[Minecache]

Ethereum Classic is the original chain which DAO investors invested in. The fact it got hard forked & now some ethereum guys have millions of dollars of ETC (Which belong to the DAO investors)which they were meant to protect isn't right! ITS ILLEGAL AND  IMMORAL

Wait, what? So the DAO investors wanted the bailout and to get their ETH back, now they want to get some ETC as well?

There is an easy solution to that. Fork again and roll it back. Worked great the last time.

No, it's only the OP who is demanding his ETC. The real DAO investors don't want their ETC back as we categorically do not support the criminals coin and chain of choice, ETC. All my development and support is going into ETH, the official chain of the EF. The whitehat wearers worked together to try to resolve the situation for all and I'm happy for them to be paid in the shitcoinage ETC so they can dump for $$$$'s.

[wallflies]

Ethereum Classic is the original chain which DAO investors invested in. The fact it got hard forked & now some ethereum guys have millions of dollars of ETC (Which belong to the DAO investors)which they were meant to protect isn't right! ITS ILLEGAL AND  IMMORAL

lol eth returned from dao is after the fork only, it cannot exist on ethc chain this is the whole point to fork. eth/c  left in dao is the hackers which was not carried over in the fork. all returned dao eth after fork there is no matching ethc.

[wallflies]

lol eth returned from dao is after the fork only, it cannot exist on ethc chain this is the whole point to fork. eth/c  left in dao is the hackers which was not carried over in the fork. all returned dao eth after fork there is no matching ethc.

Reality Check:

http://blocks.elaineou.com/addr/0xb136707642a4ea12fb4bae820f03d2562ebff487

http://blocks.elaineou.com/addr/0x84ef4b2357079cd7a7c69fd7a37cd0609a679106

http://blocks.elaineou.com/addr/0x807640a13483f8ac783c557fcdf27be11ea4ac7a

 

DAO address ETH Balance:  2 wei (less than $0.01) 

https://etherscan.io/address/0xbb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413

DAO address ETHC Balance:  63.17

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/address/bb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413

[wallflies]

DAO address ETH Balance:  2 wei (less than $0.01) 

https://etherscan.io/address/0xbb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413

DAO address ETHC Balance:  63.17

http://classic.aakilfernandes.com/#/address/bb9bc244d798123fde783fcc1c72d3bb8c189413

Oh boy...   talk about not getting it...   

you know nothing about ethereum, do not pretend 

[wallflies]

you know nothing about ethereum, do not pretend 

Such a bright future for Ethereum Classic with FUCKIN' MORONS like you on board...   ROFLMAO!   

Legendary 

[raphma]

it's hard to understand the mETH heads.... really hard.

So, the fork happend to recover the money from investors, right? So, why not give the investors money TO THE INVESTORS?

[Minecache]

it's hard to understand the mETH heads.... really hard.

So, the fork happend to recover the money from investors, right? So, why not give the investors money TO THE INVESTORS?

What are you whittering on about? The DAO investors got their investment back. I know, I was one of them.

[suchmoon]

it's hard to understand the mETH heads.... really hard.

So, the fork happend to recover the money from investors, right? So, why not give the investors money TO THE INVESTORS?

And they did get their ETH back. The OP however wants to get ETC as well. The evil, criminal, dirty ETC. Unbelievable.

[DAOinvestorwantsETC]

it's hard to understand the mETH heads.... really hard.

So, the fork happend to recover the money from investors, right? So, why not give the investors money TO THE INVESTORS?

And they did get their ETH back. The OP however wants to get ETC as well. The evil, criminal, dirty ETC. Unbelievable.

Just becouse there are criminals who use the dollar as a means of exchange, does that make the dollar evil criminal & dirty? Well thats a debate for another time - but no more than ETC in this situation. I put in ETC into the crowdfund (back then known as ETH) which i worked hard to earn and i want my ETC back, NOT in the hands of some tech savvy Eth devs who were meant to protect & return it.
Just becouse i was compensated with their new version of a forked ETH doesn't mean i am any less entitled to the original ETC.

If you are a DAO investor & want your ETC back - PLEASE SIGN THE PETITION

[suchmoon]

Just becouse i was compensated with their new version of a forked ETH doesn't mean i am any less entitled to the original ETC.

Actually yes, it does mean exactly that. Your investment was lost. Some smart guys invented a time machine and "unlost" it. You got your investment back (ETH) from the timeline where the hack (black or white hat) never existed. End of story. Stop creating space-time anomalies by demanding compensation from a different timeline, you'll get us all into a wormhole or a black hole or some kind of a hole.

[StinkyLover]

My first question:
Have you redeemed your DAO tokens for ETH (or are you able to)? If so, then why would you expect any ETC?

My second question:
If ETC had died the way it was predicted (and expected) would you be asking for ETC? Are you only petitioning because ETC now has some value?

[DAOinvestorwantsETC]

Just becouse i was compensated with their new version of a forked ETH doesn't mean i am any less entitled to the original ETC.

Actually yes, it does mean exactly that. Your investment was lost. Some smart guys invented a time machine and "unlost" it. You got your investment back (ETH) from the timeline where the hack (black or white hat) never existed. End of story. Stop creating space-time anomalies by demanding compensation from a different timeline, you'll get us all into a wormhole or a black hole or some kind of a hole.

No, the solution is very simple.
The members of the Ethereum team who acted as white hat and created the child Daos will have access to the ETC funds at this point of time. Just as much as the Black hat who created a child DAO and is now moving his funds around.
Therefore the white hats redistribute the ETC back to its rightful owners AKA DAO holders.

No Wormholes or black holes needed.

Only integrity is needed & the realisation that it would avoid any future legal implications.

ETC is valued at 200 million dollars - 7.2 million ETC is worth so much money........18 million dollars at time of writing.
And its only Due to the DAO HOLDERS who got messed around through all this due to Ethereums shoddy DAO coding

So your saying that 18 million dollars shouldn't be redistributed back to DAO holder but kept in the hands of a small group of individuals related to the Ethereum team.
This is insane.

Why are we debating this ?!

[StinkyLover]

With the complexity of this whole issue of both chains existing and some people having redeemed their DAO for ETH already, how would this even be achieved on a technical level??

[StinkyLover]

So your saying that 18 million dollars shouldn't be redistributed back to DAO holder but kept in the hands of a small group of individuals related to the Ethereum team.

Welcome to crypto

[suchmoon]

Just becouse i was compensated with their new version of a forked ETH doesn't mean i am any less entitled to the original ETC.

Actually yes, it does mean exactly that. Your investment was lost. Some smart guys invented a time machine and "unlost" it. You got your investment back (ETH) from the timeline where the hack (black or white hat) never existed. End of story. Stop creating space-time anomalies by demanding compensation from a different timeline, you'll get us all into a wormhole or a black hole or some kind of a hole.

No, the solution is very simple.
The members of the Ethereum team who acted as white hat and created the child Daos will have access to the ETC funds at this point of time. Just as much as the Black hat DAO who created a child DAO and is now moving his funds around.
Therefore the white hats redistribute the ETC back to its rightful owners AKA DAO holders.

No Wormholes or black holes needed.

Only integrity is needed & the realisation that it would avoid any future legal implications.

ETC is valued at 250 million dollars - 7.2 million ETC is worth so much money........

Why are we debating this ?!

I would suggest that you go ahead with your "legal implications". Don't forget to update this thread with how that works out, e.g. did the lawyers laugh at you immediately or just after they took your money, etc (pun intended).

OP: I want to sue somebody for X million.
Lawyers: Do they owe you?
OP: No, I was paid back what I was owed, but they have something else that's worth so much money and I want it.

[StinkyLover]

My first question:
Have you redeemed your DAO tokens for ETH (or are you able to)? If so, then why would you expect any ETC?

My second question:
If ETC had died the way it was predicted (and expected) would you be asking for ETC? Are you only petitioning because ETC now has some value?

1)  Because he/she is the rightful owner.

2)  Would it be alive if the ETC opportunist hypocrites couldn't keep & split their respective ETH?

1) That's debatable
2) Who were the opportunists? Some say it was the exchanges

[shyliar]

With the complexity of this whole issue of both chains existing and some people having redeemed their DAO for ETH already, how would this even be achieved on a technical level??

That's the most interesting question. I would think the token holders still possess their tokens on the original chain; but, someone with the actual technical knowledge needs to explain that.