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August 06, 2016, 11:54:12 AM |
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they can not and will not sell that much bitcoin in one day, and certainly the hacker will never sell it on an exchange site like the normal people.
they may even never sell it publicly or even not on blockchain. they can sell the private keys offline and change it face to face so we never know it was ever sold!
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xdrpx
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August 06, 2016, 12:08:19 PM |
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Most larger exchanges may trace the origin of those funds and blacklist them from exchanging to fiat. Some smaller local exchanges can still happen offline or via other smaller online exchanges that don't bother about tracing stolen coins, may enabled them to sell. But I feel it's going to have to a slow process for them considering it is such a large amount.
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doublemore
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August 06, 2016, 12:14:04 PM |
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He/she/they are going to have a large man hunt since bitfinex said they will be releasing details of hack. Depends on who they are but there is a chance they dont feel safe. Hackers have done deals before, but yeah if its to do with a bank its diffferent. It depends who who they are if they care.
If i want to make a hack this big (and by the way i never did or will, because i am to dumb and afraid) i better make sure, that i just do it if i can do it in a way that i will fell safe afterwards. also i better have a plan b, plan c and plan d. just in case something goes wrong. Yeah but thats in an ideal scenario, there could be good chance the hacker is a previous finex customer and got better at hacking over time. So if finex has a 10k customer list they could start working through and narrowing things down, who knows. If they show the public all details also. Its all speculation. maybe he is a previous customer but i do not think bitfinex will check all the customers good enough to find something out. if the hacker did not make any big mistakes. also bitfinex should be careful what details they give to the public. certainly they will not give all their customer informations out. They wont give customer details out no but they will give all other details. I think they will be checking through customers as there is 70 mil missing its worth the time, many of these customers they can narrow it down. |
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pereira4
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August 06, 2016, 02:24:12 PM |
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They can't move them or sell them.
Other exchanges would freeze the dirty coins. They'll likely just sit there unused.
Exactly! Just like all those other dirty coins. Lol the "Stone man loss" thing is a very small amount. That would be impossible to find out once run through a mixer then sold. No problem in doing this with any amount to be honest, you would need just a lot of time and pay fees to mixers. As far as I know mixers don't care if the coins they receive are from a thieft. |
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August 06, 2016, 02:34:41 PM |
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They can't move them or sell them.
Other exchanges would freeze the dirty coins. They'll likely just sit there unused.
Exactly! Just like all those other dirty coins. Where did you get this list? I am just curious and want to read the talk there. Maybe I can get somme information if an exchange site is near the scamming state. |
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August 06, 2016, 03:51:46 PM |
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What do you think guys about the funds from bitfinex do you think they already sell those bitcoin in the other market.? thats why the price of bitcoin is down or thats why the price of bitcoin is down its because they already seen the news about hacking bitfinex? an many people saw this news and sell their bitcoin thats why the price of bitcoin is down?
Probably portion of it is sold already but majority the coins is still sitting in thewallet. Well, I think the thief must be careful on selling the coins so he won't traced. The process of sellinng might take sometime for it is a huge amount of money. One thing is can it be traced if the thief use a mixer? |
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De Selby
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August 06, 2016, 04:05:58 PM |
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In a sense, getting away with the hack is the easiest part, really. The real problem is laundering the funds in a secure way. Using one (or several) mixing services is fine in theory, but you would still have to trust a centralized service which, for all we know, could be run by law enforcement. Imagine pulling off one of the biggest thefts in record history, only to lose everything because you got caught in a LE honeypot!
It is for the above reasons that I'm assuming the hackers know of a better way to go about the whole process. My best guess would be that they're really part of an international crime syndicate employing money mules to cash out the funds and launder the stole lucre through "regular", time-tested money laundering channels.
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August 06, 2016, 04:09:13 PM |
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If the stolen coins aren't sold, are they going to be sold eventually? I find it odd that a hacker would perform such a large attack and steal lots of money, only to just throw it away. My personal guess would be they're going to launder the coins, and spend them/sell them for cash. However could such an attack be politically/socially motivated rather than just for the money? Sounds like the sort of thing certain "hacktivists" would do.
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August 06, 2016, 04:14:28 PM |
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I think the guy hasn't done very much with his Bitcoin, unless he's already sold a lot of it so far. I would expect him to be mixing some small amounts for the next while and not bringing much attention to him or his addresses. He'll likely lay low for at least a month or two, and chances are he won't go back on the internet for a while. Just unplug all his stuff and not do anything else, to try and keep his identity a secret.
The dude has $63,000,000 stored away now, he won't have to do anything ever again if he doesn't want to.
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August 06, 2016, 04:17:37 PM |
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do we know any of the addresses belonging to the hacker? i always see an address being officially published by the hacked site. but this time i can't find any. am i blind or finex never published it?
anyways those funds are not going to be sold this soon. they will probably stay stationary for a very long time, even a couple of years, before the hacker moves them.
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September 04, 2016, 10:14:16 PM |
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September 14, 2016, 12:46:07 PM |
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September 14, 2016, 01:13:51 PM |
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I think the guy hasn't done very much with his Bitcoin, unless he's already sold a lot of it so far. I would expect him to be mixing some small amounts for the next while and not bringing much attention to him or his addresses. He'll likely lay low for at least a month or two, and chances are he won't go back on the internet for a while. Just unplug all his stuff and not do anything else, to try and keep his identity a secret.
The dude has $63,000,000 stored away now, he won't have to do anything ever again if he doesn't want to.
There's no point in having all that cash if your not going to use it. Might as well return it to their original owners. |
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September 14, 2016, 03:17:58 PM |
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as many people said that last month the prices dumped because they were panic selling after those incident and i don't think the hackers already sell their bitcoin and maybe will difficult to them to bulk sell because every exchanges do not accept suspicious activity
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September 14, 2016, 04:24:20 PM |
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as many people said that last month the prices dumped because they were panic selling after those incident and i don't think the hackers already sell their bitcoin and maybe will difficult to them to bulk sell because every exchanges do not accept suspicious activity
If the hackers dump their bitcoins in bulk on any exchange it will make the bitcoin market price go down a lot and the sale will be clear. |
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September 14, 2016, 05:10:00 PM |
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I do not know, I feel that he sells bitcoin such small amounts so as to make him do not get caught. sold at very low prices in large quantities, will make bitcoin prices to be down, and tu will be very dangerous for hackers, because it might make getting caught
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September 14, 2016, 05:23:07 PM |
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i think No, because the amount that had been stolen by the theft from bitfinex is not small . its amount will definetly change the price of the bitcoins .
if the btc had been sold then there will be sharply fall in the bitcoin amount will take place but there is nothing like that instead of small change in rate due to change in the value of doller .
I think your right they not sold those bitcoins maybe a small amount and use for their activity or to use to treat someone. It is big amount if they hack the all bitcoins from exchange site.. they are lucky that we can not report them to the police this is our problem about online anytime we can lose if we do not know how to protect our site. |
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September 14, 2016, 10:00:46 PM |
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as many people said that last month the prices dumped because they were panic selling after those incident and i don't think the hackers already sell their bitcoin and maybe will difficult to them to bulk sell because every exchanges do not accept suspicious activity
The coins at this point are too hot if you know what I mean. If the hackers (they surely won't) deposit their coins in various exchanges, then the chances to have these coins "seized" by the exchanges in question are very high. I am quite sure that they will take years for these coins to let them cool off. |
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September 14, 2016, 10:23:01 PM |
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Anybody who takes the chance to sell off those coins are going to be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives.
They will have to answer to a lot of people once they get caught.
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