The pointlessness of terrorism

[BCEmporium]

Something got me wonder: Why are there terrorists?!
If we go through history, we see they never achieved anything at all. Terrorist attacks are pointless, suicidal and, ultimately, stupid.

Starting by that Catholic prick, which was used in a movie and became anonymous' mask. Well, UK didn't turn one inch Catholic due to his attack attempt.
Later on late XIX you get the anarchist attacks... no country got anything near anarchist due to it. Same for Spartacus League on Germany.
ETA and IRA did zero on make the territories independent from Spain or UK.
Palestinian terrorism just made it worse for themselves, the more the terrorism the more Israel grows on power.
Eventually the US-supported Talibans got to power on Afghanistan, but not because their terrorism "was so good that scared the Russians", it just happened the wall came down, the soviets collapsed and it was left alone. So they got there by chance.

Now we come to today's terrorists. «Uh! I'm so bad! I killed 100 parisian peasants!»... Dude! I don't mean to disappoint you, but there are about 20 million people in Paris, even if by any miracle you could do it everyday, about 300 years later you would be half-way from depleting Paris of its population!
To not mention you step on the toes of someone who just doesn't make a parking lot out of the rat hole you came from if it doesn't want to or may set a drone so deep in your arse that your friends would need to scrape your pieces out of the asphalt.

Who actually wins with terrorism are those who are "opposing the terrorists". Strategically then the only place for terrorism is to perform false flag attacks, shake the crowd and empower the viper that made it, such as nationalists, fascists, communists and all sort of scum that feeds on fear and false hope. Anything other than this is plain stupid and pointless.

This said, what to think about things like ISIS, al-Nusra, Hezbollah and all that crap? Are they a false flag? Or a gathering of retards?

[eddie13]

Retards for sure.. Because they like fuck their sisters n shit..

[Holliday]

Who actually wins with terrorism are those who are "opposing the terrorists". Strategically then the only place for terrorism is to perform false flag attacks, shake the crowd and empower the viper that made it, such as nationalists, fascists, communists and all sort of scum that feeds on fear and false hope.

Well... you've found the point of terrorism. /thread

[BCEmporium]

Not exactly the point, but the only place where it can have some strategic value.
Because it still makes me confused on where it came from and what for as I believe many actually believe it "does something" for their "cause". Not that I'm afraid that the world will run out of retards, but we don't need such a vast stock of it as we have!
And, well, people that follows a religion that came from a guy who claim to be listening to angels... they surely add to that stock!

[horace08122]

Not exactly the point, but the only place where it can have some strategic value.
Because it still makes me confused on where it came from and what for as I believe many actually believe it "does something" for their "cause". Not that I'm afraid that the world will run out of retards, but we don't need such a vast stock of it as we have!
And, well, people that follows a religion that came from a guy who claim to be listening to angels... they surely add to that stock!

Why do you see the inscription, so literally ?! If the words of Scripture, taken in accordance with today's realities. This Scripture has more than a real guide to action. But if you do not trust the words of Scripture, of course, your right.

[tsaroz]

Hypocrisy at most and sometimes mental illness of variable intensity. An imaginary Jannat or heaven. A sacrifice for god. A jihad.

From history look how the ancient religious extremist treated the great minds, scientists, made them the satan, Lucifer anybody who didn't followed their religion were called witches and black sorcerer, killed them. Still people with similar thoughts following the same tradition. Some places are changing fast while some are resisting change.

[valta4065]

Terrorism is just manipulation man.

Give me 10 men and 10k $ and I put Europe on its knees.

Terrorism is here so governments and companies can do whatever they want.
Everyone talks only about terrorism, no-one talks about poverty, work conditions,  tax evasion of multinationals...
Do you know that more people died at work in europe last year than in terrorist attacks in last 10 years?

 But hey, the media have their priorities right...

[gentlemand]

Daesh's stated aim is to start war between the crackers and the Islams. Keep chipping away and eventually no average Muslim is going to feel very comfortable in any Western country, nor will the crackers.

That feeds into a nicely ignitable cycle and most people are far too stupid to see the path they're being steered down.

As for false flag stuff, I'm sure it has happened in the past but I find people who scream it every single time something occurs should go outside and get more fresh air.

[virtualx]

Something got me wonder: Why are there terrorists?!
If we go through history, we see they never achieved anything at all. Terrorist attacks are pointless, suicidal and, ultimately, stupid.

Their goal is to increase tensions between groups. Example: Irish, English and Muslims,non-Muslims.
They exist because stupidity is not scarce on this planet 

[BCEmporium]

Well, the Western media is "western centered", a terrorist kills 2 guys at German you get a week of full coverage, a set of them blow 500, including women and children, at Iraq and all you get is a small note in a corner of a newspaper.
Terrorists then aren't doing it for "Muslims to not feel comfortable at Europe", specially because most of their attacks target other Muslims at their own countries.

Another curiosity is that Daesh/ISIS thing. They just don't care on assume anything! I guess their dialog after Nice's attack should go like:
- Who was that wacko with the truck?
- No idea man, but we will assume it anyway!

They sound like someone trying to sell a product by putting to evidence how shitty that product is...

[Lethn]

I have thought long and hard about this, believe me and the best conclusion I can come up with is that so long as there are religious texts and teachings within religion that declare violence in general and violence or persecution towards certain types or groups of people is acceptable fanatics and terrorists will always be able to justify their existence and we will never get rid of them.

It's because the so called moderates have the same beliefs at fanatics that these types of groups can run rampant especially in their neighbourhoods, they support them either actively or passively by having these violent beliefs and that's why it will always be a problem.

[BADecker]

Do terrorists ever talk about the terrorism that they are going to do before they do it? and do they talk about it if they succeed and get away? Probably. At least the before part... the planning stages.

Talking about the pointlessness of terrorism is more pointless than talking about the planning of terrorism... at least to the terrorist.

[CroSany]

Therorists are the most restarded pupils in the whole big world and they will always be the poorest pupils which have ever exist in this galaxy.I cant understand their poor heads which are really really broken.

[virtualx]

Well, the Western media is "western centered", a terrorist kills 2 guys at German you get a week of full coverage, a set of them blow 500, including women and children, at Iraq and all you get is a small note in a corner of a newspaper.
Terrorists then aren't doing it for "Muslims to not feel comfortable at Europe", specially because most of their attacks target other Muslims at their own countries.

Terrorists from Iran, Morocco, Tunisia, Chechnya and Saudi Arabia never even visited Iraq. These countries are not at war (Except Russia-Chechnya wars)

[rajasumi2]

Something got me wonder: Why are there terrorists?!
If we go through history, we see they never achieved anything at all. Terrorist attacks are pointless, suicidal and, ultimately, stupid.

Starting by that Catholic prick, which was used in a movie and became anonymous' mask. Well, UK didn't turn one inch Catholic due to his attack attempt.
Later on late XIX you get the anarchist attacks... no country got anything near anarchist due to it. Same for Spartacus League on Germany.
ETA and IRA did zero on make the territories independent from Spain or UK.
Palestinian terrorism just made it worse for themselves, the more the terrorism the more Israel grows on power.
Eventually the US-supported Talibans got to power on Afghanistan, but not because their terrorism "was so good that scared the Russians", it just happened the wall came down, the soviets collapsed and it was left alone. So they got there by chance.

Now we come to today's terrorists. «Uh! I'm so bad! I killed 100 parisian peasants!»... Dude! I don't mean to disappoint you, but there are about 20 million people in Paris, even if by any miracle you could do it everyday, about 300 years later you would be half-way from depleting Paris of its population!
To not mention you step on the toes of someone who just doesn't make a parking lot out of the rat hole you came from if it doesn't want to or may set a drone so deep in your arse that your friends would need to scrape your pieces out of the asphalt.

Who actually wins with terrorism are those who are "opposing the terrorists". Strategically then the only place for terrorism is to perform false flag attacks, shake the crowd and empower the viper that made it, such as nationalists, fascists, communists and all sort of scum that feeds on fear and false hope. Anything other than this is plain stupid and pointless.

This said, what to think about things like ISIS, al-Nusra, Hezbollah and all that crap? Are they a false flag? Or a gathering of retards?

actually they wanna rule  the whole world and wanna get all the oil reserves of the world ..i am very much depressed about this they are killing so many innocent people .whichis pointlesss.kudoos

[Masha Sha]

Something got me wonder: Why are there terrorists?!
If we go through history, we see they never achieved anything at all. Terrorist attacks are pointless, suicidal and, ultimately, stupid.

Starting by that Catholic prick, which was used in a movie and became anonymous' mask. Well, UK didn't turn one inch Catholic due to his attack attempt.
Later on late XIX you get the anarchist attacks... no country got anything near anarchist due to it. Same for Spartacus League on Germany.
ETA and IRA did zero on make the territories independent from Spain or UK.
Palestinian terrorism just made it worse for themselves, the more the terrorism the more Israel grows on power.
Eventually the US-supported Talibans got to power on Afghanistan, but not because their terrorism "was so good that scared the Russians", it just happened the wall came down, the soviets collapsed and it was left alone. So they got there by chance.

Now we come to today's terrorists. «Uh! I'm so bad! I killed 100 parisian peasants!»... Dude! I don't mean to disappoint you, but there are about 20 million people in Paris, even if by any miracle you could do it everyday, about 300 years later you would be half-way from depleting Paris of its population!
To not mention you step on the toes of someone who just doesn't make a parking lot out of the rat hole you came from if it doesn't want to or may set a drone so deep in your arse that your friends would need to scrape your pieces out of the asphalt.

Who actually wins with terrorism are those who are "opposing the terrorists". Strategically then the only place for terrorism is to perform false flag attacks, shake the crowd and empower the viper that made it, such as nationalists, fascists, communists and all sort of scum that feeds on fear and false hope. Anything other than this is plain stupid and pointless.

This said, what to think about things like ISIS, al-Nusra, Hezbollah and all that crap? Are they a false flag? Or a gathering of retards?

Yup what you say is very true... By definition terrorism is a strategy. And the strategy of the weak party by excellence... And as you said the only outcome possible for a successful campaign is to provoke a very harsh response from the asymmetrically superior force. For example the Russian army wiped Chechnya entire cities.

In the case of Ben laden he wanted to provoke the west to a very massive answer: how high to jump? And then be able to rally vast swath of the mostly apathic worldwide Muslims population to join the fight (and of course causes financial damages, i.e. Investment in the armed forces and not in productive stuff and create climate of fear to weaken demand).

In retrospect he lost his bet. Consumerism, materialism and greed are powerful forces he didn't and couldn't understood and he underestimated vastly the American war machine... He only saw the CIA in Afghanistan against the Russian... At the peak all Ben laden men couldn't even dream to operate a single aircraft carrier fleet... The complex is soooo wide and deep, 241 years and one month of continuously accumulating XP.

[BCEmporium]

Guerrilla is a strategy of the weak, terrorism is plain stupid. All it does it empower the opposite faction.
One of the shittiest terrorist attack in history, the attack on North Ossetia's school, was the reason why Russian army could wipe cities of Chechnya without much hassle from the rest of the world... honestly after your faction attacks school kids nobody gives a fuck for what will happen to you and yours.

[20kevin20]

Who are we fighting with, though? ISIS? Who created ISIS? And with what reason(s)..?

We're just a stage. Marionettes played on a stage by the under-100 families in this world. A few thousands are taking control over almost ten billion people. If they wanted to fight ISIS and terrorists, they would disappear from the face of this planet in max 24 hours. They don't want to do it, though. Fear is implemented from these 'attacks', so that their plan can have success. We'll reach the point where we aren't going to trust anyone around us. The plans have been made hundreds of years ago, and there is not just a plan. There is Plan A, Plan B, Plan C, Plan D, etc. We're just marionettes.

[Spendulus]

Yup what you say is very true... By definition terrorism is a strategy. And the strategy of the weak party by excellence... And as you said the only outcome possible for a successful campaign is to provoke a very harsh response from the asymmetrically superior force. For example the Russian army wiped Chechnya entire cities.

In the case of Ben laden he wanted to provoke the west to a very massive answer: how high to jump? And then be able to rally vast swath of the mostly apathic worldwide Muslims population to join the fight (and of course causes financial damages, i.e. Investment in the armed forces and not in productive stuff and create climate of fear to weaken demand).
...

If you look at the provoked hate of America as evident on even this forum, binLaden and other terrorists certainly do provoke hatred of "the West" by the Muslim communities.

Somehow these communities do not comprehend their manipulation by their own extremist factionss.

[plpbtc1526]

According to Amy Zalman, Ph.D.  Global Terrorism Expert

There Are Two Causes of Terrorism

All terrorist acts are motivated by two things:

    Social and political injustice: People choose terrorism when they are trying to right what they perceive to be a social or political or historical wrong—when they have been stripped of their land or rights, or denied these.

    The belief that violence or its threat will be effective, and usher in change. Another way of saying this is: the belief that violent means justify the ends. Many terrorists in history said sincerely that they chose violence after long deliberation, because they felt they had no choice.

Source: http://terrorism.about.com/od/causes/a/causes_terror.htm