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August 24, 2016, 07:17:42 AM
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They are desperately trying to get out from their shit situation, and they come up with idea with tokens now, well I wish them luck, and to everyone who plan to continue to trade there.
With daily withdrawal limit maybe they can do something,but fact is that many people will try to take out their money.
I'm not sure what will they do, but congrats to their team, looks like they are fighting really hard to stay alive and in business.

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August 24, 2016, 07:23:41 AM
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once bitfinex starts using new users funds to try covering old balances(in the form of tokens).. automatically its a ponzi and things get nasty

I can see that token price going up pretty high if they do it right and make a market for it.  People now have the ability to invest in finex which is the best exchange like it or not.  Finex might not actually push for a deal with investor before they have to issue token and give back 100% to keep people out of being share holders.  Its makes them work, i like it.
Sadly however this offer isn't being extended to US residents.  Essentially punishing residents of the states and providing no other option that I can see thus far other than redeeming at present value.

bitfinex should have IP banned US citizens ages ago, they cant let US citizens in and then pretend they dont exist later. this by no means protects bitfinex from court action, by only having restrictions after the fact.. those restrictions would need to be inplace long ago.

its much like doing nothing at a gas station to check the person is over the age limit to buy alcohol.. by having a no-check policy and serving them the store is accountable in court. the store cant plead ignorance later when things go wrong for the store and say its the underage kids fault.

sorry but bitfinex legally and morally has to make US users whole just like anyone else. the only possible way they could avoid a US lawsuit was if bitfinex already had a ID check policy that turns US customers away and it was the US customer that 'lied' by saying he was say european.. then the US customer cant go to court....
but funnily enough if that was the case where a customer 'appears' as european.. then bitfinex still need to honour those debts/people internally(via tokens and recovery plan..) because technically the user is signed in as european, not american. (catch 22 for bitfinex)

so i cant see how bitfinex can blankly not honour any customer, because they obviously didnt blankly say no to the customer using the service in the first place

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August 24, 2016, 09:56:48 AM
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your opinion has common sense but this doesn't apply to Bitfinex because they don't have.  

Bitfinex will break the law again with a shit idea as usual. Anyway, they issued illegal securities(tokens) when they are not even license for a money transmitter business.....so, everything that Bitfinex is doing, it's outlaw and they will lose any lawsuit that it may come(I am sure it will come shortly).
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August 24, 2016, 10:39:52 AM
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your opinion has common sense but this doesn't apply to Bitfinex because they don't have.  

Bitfinex will break the law again with a shit idea as usual. Anyway, they issued illegal securities(tokens) when they are not even license for a money transmitter business.....so, everything that Bitfinex is doing, it's outlaw and they will lose any lawsuit that it may come(I am sure it will come shortly).

Unfortunately I'm pretty sure, that even winning in court (after years and substantial costs) will not help to properly reimburse the victims. Illegality per se means nothing here. I think there is a number of exchanges that is breaking some laws (with or without knowledge) yet they still are acting in an ethical way towards its users. Even a perfectly legal exchange might find a catastrophic ending with zero compensation for its users. From what I read, Bitfinex is not US-based, so I would be a bit more careful to call its operation illegal without knowledge of the home countries legal system.

As sad as it is, I think Bitfinex users should be grateful to receive at least a significant part of their funds back, which is highly unusual in Bitcoins hacking/scam history.

It will be very interesting to see the results of a thorough investigation of the Bitfinex incident. However we have to wait for this a little more...

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