ETH is a Fail and why ETC will fail as well.

[Hueristic]

If you support the ETC criminal coin their you condone nothing more than thievery. Spoetniktards of your ilk make myself, and all right minded decent people, physically sick think that you dare to call yourself a member of the human race.

I suppose you never touch a dollar or a Euro or any other big fiat money where the central bank didn't issue new money after some got stolen (like with the great train robbery) ?   I suppose you don't touch bitcoin ?  I suppose you don't touch gold ?  All those "thieves store of value things" ?

any other coin  would have failed for sure by this time.

ETH is still standing strong , go figure...

It might well be that it is the ETC dumping for ETH, and as such, generating demand for ETH, that keeps the price high.  So ironically enough, maybe ETC is keeping ETH alive, because it has given "free money" to ETH holders to buy more ETH.

That said, the overall market cap of ETC + ETH is about $13.2 and so on a slight decrease since the fork.   It would probably have been much lower if there hadn't been this pumping/dumping swing between both that has attracted a lot of day traders as long as it lasts.  ETC is what is still keeping ETH somewhat alive.

Two chains is less safer than one chain. The low hash chain can be attacked. Nobody will work on that chain.

Well, ETC is what remains of the ethereum chain after the 51% attack that was organized by the foundation, and its mutated chain now goes under the name of ETH.  Looking at the mining power and market cap, this attack is not ready to stop soon.

So it is not true that the highest mining power is safest: we see that the highest mining power goes to the attacked chain.  The chain that is still running the original protocol is ETC, the survivor of the attack.

All valid points ETC really is whats keeping ETH on life support, there is alot of market cap there to wither off and die.

[bbc.reporter]

I disagree that the people who hold a huge stake in ETH is out to get ETC and are dumping them to kick the platform out of existence. ETH holders must have realized that by now it would be better for the original Ethereum classic to stick around so that they can profit from 2 chains. The minders have realized this. The others will of course also come to their senses. Why do you think the DAO holders want their ETC back from the white hat hackers?

Two chains is less safer than one chain. The low hash chain can be attacked. Nobody will work on that chain.

Well that is not what we are seeing right now. Both chains will diverge in the future becoming two separate entities. I foresee ETC gaining more hash power and within a year it will be more than 50% to the hash power of ETH.

The question is who will fork first to eliminate totally the "replay attacks" and finally stop it from happening. For me ETC should do it first.

[Hueristic]

I disagree that the people who hold a huge stake in ETH is out to get ETC and are dumping them to kick the platform out of existence. ETH holders must have realized that by now it would be better for the original Ethereum classic to stick around so that they can profit from 2 chains. The minders have realized this. The others will of course also come to their senses. Why do you think the DAO holders want their ETC back from the white hat hackers?

Two chains is less safer than one chain. The low hash chain can be attacked. Nobody will work on that chain.

Well that is not what we are seeing right now. Both chains will diverge in the future becoming two separate entities. I foresee ETC gaining more hash power and within a year it will be more than 50% to the hash power of ETH.

The question is who will fork first to eliminate totally the "replay attacks" and finally stop it from happening. For me ETC should do it first.

ETC cannot as that will invalidate it's entire existence. Catch22

[dinofelis]

ETC cannot as that will invalidate it's entire existence. Catch22

It is a catch-22 for ETH, not for ETC.  In fact, ETC couldn't care less about "replay attacks", which are not "attacks" at all, but just simultaneous transactions on both chains. 

The real catch-22 is for ETH, because after this disastrous fork, they will be scared to death to fork again.

The real difference would probably come when ETH should fork for PoS, but this is even more a "jump in the dark" and they will never dare to do it.  In fact, ETH has put itself in a very, very difficult position, and this is normal, because ETH is in fact the result of a sustained 51% attack on the original chain. 

[Hueristic]

ETC cannot as that will invalidate it's entire existence. Catch22

It is a catch-22 for ETH, not for ETC.  In fact, ETC couldn't care less about "replay attacks", which are not "attacks" at all, but just simultaneous transactions on both chains. 

The real catch-22 is for ETH, because after this disastrous fork, they will be scared to death to fork again.

The real difference would probably come when ETH should fork for PoS, but this is even more a "jump in the dark" and they will never dare to do it.  In fact, ETH has put itself in a very, very difficult position, and this is normal, because ETH is in fact the result of a sustained 51% attack on the original chain. 

Catch22 for both, I just left the ETH reason out as I was responding on ETC forking specifically. I've posted elsewhere why. Losing immutability will destroy ETC and losing what little confidence is left will hasten ETH demise both of which will happen to whichever forks. And Yes I agree ETC does not even need to fork. what it needs is a smart contract system that works as well as scalability and a host of other issues that no-one is bothering to talk about while this other drama unfolds...

Dead coins walking.

[asdalani]

ETC cannot as that will invalidate it's entire existence. Catch22

It is a catch-22 for ETH, not for ETC.  In fact, ETC couldn't care less about "replay attacks", which are not "attacks" at all, but just simultaneous transactions on both chains. 

The real catch-22 is for ETH, because after this disastrous fork, they will be scared to death to fork again.

The real difference would probably come when ETH should fork for PoS, but this is even more a "jump in the dark" and they will never dare to do it.  In fact, ETH has put itself in a very, very difficult position, and this is normal, because ETH is in fact the result of a sustained 51% attack on the original chain. 

Catch22 for both, I just left the ETH reason out as I was responding on ETC forking specifically. I've posted elsewhere why. Losing immutability will destroy ETC and losing what little confidence is left will hasten ETH demise both of which will happen to whichever forks. And Yes I agree ETC does not even need to fork. what it needs is a smart contract system that works as well as scalability and a host of other issues that no-one is bothering to talk about while this other drama unfolds...

Dead coins walking.

There will be a DEVConv in the next few days. Do you think that will affect the ETC price as well as the ETH price?

[Ayers]

it's because eth and etc are too centralized that's why they failed so badly, but investors do not care they took their profit at the beginning with the big pump and they are waiting for the next big thing, which is zerocah

[Hueristic]

ETC cannot as that will invalidate it's entire existence. Catch22

It is a catch-22 for ETH, not for ETC.  In fact, ETC couldn't care less about "replay attacks", which are not "attacks" at all, but just simultaneous transactions on both chains. 

The real catch-22 is for ETH, because after this disastrous fork, they will be scared to death to fork again.

The real difference would probably come when ETH should fork for PoS, but this is even more a "jump in the dark" and they will never dare to do it.  In fact, ETH has put itself in a very, very difficult position, and this is normal, because ETH is in fact the result of a sustained 51% attack on the original chain. 

Catch22 for both, I just left the ETH reason out as I was responding on ETC forking specifically. I've posted elsewhere why. Losing immutability will destroy ETC and losing what little confidence is left will hasten ETH demise both of which will happen to whichever forks. And Yes I agree ETC does not even need to fork. what it needs is a smart contract system that works as well as scalability and a host of other issues that no-one is bothering to talk about while this other drama unfolds...

Dead coins walking.

There will be a DEVConv in the next few days. Do you think that will affect the ETC price as well as the ETH price?

I no longer care, I have never held any of either (I may have part of one because I helped shore up the true chain as a altruistic measure). I made an overture to the ETC community and was ignored. I spend my time more wisely these days so you won't see me in threads giving helpful advice much anymore as it's never been appreciated and I have better thigs to do with my time.

but thanks for asking.

[Minecache]

Disclaimer: I hold 1 ETC (mined during fork) and zero ETH.

Fuck me it took me over 3 minutes simply hodling down backspace to delete your nonsensical shit. Gud on you for hodling ETC and not ETH. You will go far. I feelz it in my bones.

[Hueristic]

Disclaimer: I hold 1 ETC (mined during fork) and zero ETH.

Fuck me it took me over 3 minutes simply hodling down backspace to delete your nonsensical shit. Gud on you for hodling ETC and not ETH. You will go far. I feelz it in my bones.

I don't even remember where it is, thats how much I care. Hows your shitcoin been doing?