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WHAT IS ARK?
ARK is an open database (DAPP) where people can list newly created cryptocoins, and where the community can easy find them in real time. (manually, or via smart contract)
A simple trustless list of new coins. ARK is an open database built on Ethereum.
If you are looking for newly created coins, ARK does the job!
ARK is also the first Collaborative Market.
The Proof Of Concept for any future Collaborative Market.

IS THIS LIKE A NAME-SYSTEM FOR COINS?
No. We wanted to apply the concept of collaborative markets to something simple. A name system was one of the ideas, but there are already too many coins around and trolls would buy pre-existing names and make a mess. It is an open database, more a list able to keep detailed informations you can refer to. Like how many coins, if you can mine them, where is the website etc. etc.

WHAT IS A COLLABORATIVE MARKET?
Whereas a large corporation may give power to a single entity, a collaborative market (or Plex Market) is a group of microeconomical actors joining together to offer a service to the public, all ruled by a trustless smart contract.

IS ARK A DAO?
ARK belongs to the family of DAO, but differs in that it is specific; it is built to fulfill your local law. We call it a Collaborative Market. It is an environment producing value (offering services) that is then shared by the owners of the service.

IS ARK A FINANCIAL PRODUCT?
No. If you buy shares from Apple or Microsoft you buy a percentage of income, a dividend, and you have no idea what they really do with your money. A collaborative market is a FINANCIAL PRODUCT EMULATOR. You are the main subject offering the service, and you offer it according to the smart contract ARK, keeping in balance the earnings of all owners.

HOW DOES IT WORK?
In order to list a new coin on ARK DB, you must pay an ANTISPAM fee. (1 fair ETH)

WHO GETS ALL THIS MONEY?
The community: ARK BOTs (shop) owners.

HOW DOES IT HAPPEN?
When you buy a BOT (shop) you enable it, and as soon as a customer comes, you serve him and you get the money.
Now it is NEXT BOT's turn, and when a new customer comes the NEXT BOT will serve the customer and get the money.
A TRUSTLESS MULTIPLEXER POINTER steps in, redirecting the customers to the CURRENT SELLER, BOT by BOT, so that at the end of the cycle, all existing BOTs served a customer, and the cycle restarts from BOT 1. Endlessly.
In the long term, all the BOT owners will earn the same amount of money, emulating a financial product.

WHY NOT DIRECTLY A FINANCIAL PRODUCT?
The strict rules and bureaucracy of directly creating (and buying) a financial product can hinder the process. COLLABORATIVE MARKETS ruled by a TRUSTLESS MULTIPLEXER are an ALTERNATIVE MODEL that can be applied to smaller projects, allowing the little developer to meet the power of the crowd with low commitment to bureaucratic processes. If you have the right to sell a product on eBay, so you have the right to operate ARK market, and offer the related services, according to your local law.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER WAYS TO MAKE MONEY WITH ARK?

ARK contains 6 different services:

LIST NEW COIN

EDIT COIN

EDIT BOT

RESELL BOT

ADD ADVERTISING

ADD HOME ADVERTISING

WHO DECIDES THE COSTS OF THE SERVICES?
The community members. Those who own the BOTs and share the income offering ARK services to the public. The prices can be adjusted to the market value via an experimental democratic voting interface.

HOW MANY BOTS ARE INSIDE ARK?
The total amount will be decided at the moment of launch. From the very first moment of the initial sale, the number of BOTS cannot be changed.

CAN I TRADE MY BOTS?
Technically, yes. But ARK starts with a very high fee (RESELL BOT). ARK is meant for long term investors. If in the future the community decides (via inner voting system) to lower the cost of RESELL-BOT service, they will be easily tradable.

IF THERE IS A CYCLE SO THE FIRST BOT HAVE AN ADVANTAGE?
If you are a short term investor, then you will be interested in buying some of the first BOTS of the cycle. If you are a medium/long term investor then you don't mind. In fact, a bot will cost around 1 ETH, and listing a coin will cost around 1 ETH, so if you buy the first BOT of the list and a first customer comes you already got back your money.

WHY ARK IS A SPECIAL EXPERIMENT?
Because it is a basic test on the capabilities of Ethereum, where we can really have an idea of the gas costs of a complete billing system.

OK BUT...WHY ARK?
The community needs a Coin DB. A clean list of coins, not some messy forums. The age of proprietary databases is over. We have now an open one, fully interconnectable. Managed by the community, forever. Any one can connect his own application. If you build an application with proprietary database, no one will use it. IF you connect to a central resources system so it is completely different. I pay you but those informations will be accessible forever, whatever is going to happen. Your company may fail, your application may vanish, but the links are all there, in the central database. This is the end of the dissipative world we are used to.

HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY BE PROTECTED BY SPAM?
ARK contains a simple and experimental democratic BLACKFLAG management system. Plus, in extreme, a brutal censorship function managed by the operators (BOTs owners).

SO DO I BUY A "FUTURE PROJECT"?
No, as soon as you buy, the game starts. This is not an [ICO], you buy a ready instance of a web-service. [SSS] stands for Start Software Sale. It is a completely new model. Get used to it, tons of collaborative markets to come... any web service can be transformed into a collaborative market, granting accessibility to informations, and wide spread of resources.

WHY NOT AN ICO?
We don't build coins. We build Markets. We don't look for money for future projects: we build the technology => we sell it. You know in advance what you invest for. Period.

CAN I MINE A BOT?
Of course! Ethereum miners are rewarded. If you find a block and a transaction happens inside ARK, so your wallet gets a CLAIMABLE BOT. Claimable BOT's are property of ARK operators, they are given for free, you pay only the administrative fee (around 0.1 ETH instead of full price 1ETH). Money are earnt by the CURRENT SELLER, depending on the step of the TRUSTLESS MULTIPLEXER. There will be only a limited amount of Claimable BOTs. (10% of total BOTs) If you don't claim a bot the next miner will claim it in your place. You can still claim yours later, assuming there are still any available.

WHAT ARE THE REAL FEATURES?

Coin listing
Modifying existing Coins
Tagging coins
Search by tag
Blackflagging system with approvation by members
Blackflag based filter system
Voting system for extreme censorship
Voting system for services prices
Collaborative market cycling 6 different services
BOT buy/sell system
Companies management
Complete billing system with:
Search bill by BOT
search bill by buyer wallet
Search bill by seller wallet
Search company by wallet
List companies
Mantain old companies informations for bills registered before the company changed name
Bounty system
Mining Bounty system
Advertising system (under coins)
Home advertising system (in home page with different costs and different multiplexer cycle)
Stats for everything
Basically extensible in its semantics (the future may be seriously different!)
Muting system for emergency (works only during startsale!)
Very Simple (neanderthal style) document system
Search low cost BOTS (client side!  it would be too expensive for a smart contract)

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COLLABORATIVE MARKET?
We have a dream. We are working for it, stay tuned.



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August 08, 2016, 10:26:36 PM
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I see you've picked the best logo. good choice Cheesy

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I see you've picked the best logo. good choice Cheesy

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August 08, 2016, 10:30:40 PM
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ARK -  a Different DAO is coming!

WHAT IS ARK?
ARK is an open database (DAPP) where people can list newly created cryptocoins, and where the community can easy find them in real time. (manually, or via smart contract)
A simple trustless list of new coins. ARK is an open database built on Ethereum.
If you are looking for newly created coins, ARK does the job!
ARK is also the first Collaborative Market.
The Proof Of Concept for any future Collaborative Market.

IS THIS LIKE A NAME-SYSTEM FOR COINS?
No. We wanted to apply the concept of collaborative markets to something simple. A name system was one of the ideas, but there are already too many coins around and trolls would buy pre-existing names and make a mess. It is an open database, more a list able to keep detailed informations you can refer to. Like how many coins, if you can mine them, where is the website etc. etc.

WHAT IS A COLLABORATIVE MARKET?
Whereas a large corporation may give power to a single entity, a collaborative market is a group of microeconomical actors joining together to offer a service to the public, all ruled by a trustless smart contract.

IS ARK A DAO?
ARK belongs to the family of DAO, but differs in that it is specific; it is built to fulfill your local law. We call it a Collaborative Market. It is an environment producing value (offering services) that is then shared by the owners of the service.

IS ARK A FINANCIAL PRODUCT?
No. If you buy shares from Apple or Microsoft you buy a percentage of income, a dividend, and you have no idea what they really do with your money. A collaborative market is a FINANCIAL PRODUCT EMULATOR. You are the main subject offering the service, and you offer it according to the smart contract ARK, keeping in balance the earnings of all owners.

HOW DOES IT WORK?
In order to list a new coin on ARK DB, you must pay an ANTISPAM fee. (1 fair ETH)

WHO GETS ALL THIS MONEY?
The community: ARK BOTs (shop) owners.

HOW DOES IT HAPPEN?
When you buy a BOT (shop) you enable it, and as soon as a customer comes, you serve him and you get the money.
Now it is NEXT BOT's turn, and when a new customer comes the NEXT BOT will serve the customer and get the money.
A TRUSTLESS MULTIPLEXER POINTER steps in, redirecting the customers to the CURRENT SELLER, BOT by BOT, so that at the end of the cycle, all existing BOTs served a customer, and the cycle restarts from BOT 1. Endlessly.
In the long term, all the BOT owners will earn the same amount of money, emulating a financial product.

WHY NOT DIRECTLY A FINANCIAL PRODUCT?
The strict rules and bureaucracy of directly creating (and buying) a financial product can hinder the process. COLLABORATIVE MARKETS ruled by a TRUSTLESS MULTIPLEXER are an ALTERNATIVE MODEL that can be applied to smaller projects, allowing the little developer to meet the power of the crowd with low commitment to bureaucratic processes. If you have the right to sell a product on eBay, so you have the right to operate ARK market, and offer the related services, according to your local law.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER WAYS TO MAKE MONEY WITH ARK?

ARK contains 6 different services:

LIST NEW COIN

EDIT COIN

EDIT BOT

RESELL BOT

ADD ADVERTISING

ADD HOME ADVERTISING

WHO DECIDES THE COSTS OF THE SERVICES?
The community members. Those who own the BOTs and share the income offering ARK services to the public. The prices can be adjusted to the market value via an experimental democratic voting interface.

HOW MANY BOTS ARE INSIDE ARK?
The total amount will be decided at the moment of launch. After the initial sale, the number of BOTS cannot be changed.

CAN I TRADE MY BOTS?
Technically, yes. But ARK starts with a very high fee (RESELL BOT). ARK is meant for long term investors. If in the future the community decides (via inner voting system) to lower the cost of RESELL-BOT service, they will be easily tradable.

IF THERE IS A CYCLE SO THE FIRST BOT HAVE AN ADVANTAGE?
If you are a short term investor, then you will be interested in buying some of the first BOTS of the cycle. If you are a medium/long term investor then you don't mind. In fact, a bot will cost around 1 ETH, and listing a coin will cost around 1 ETH, so if you buy the first BOT of the list and a first customer comes you already got back your money.

WHY ARK IS A SPECIAL EXPERIMENT?
Because it is a basic test on the capabilities of Ethereum, where we can really have an idea of the gas costs of a complete billing system.

OK BUT...WHY ARK?
The community needs a Coin DB. A clean list of coins, not some messy forums. The age of proprietary databases is over. We have now an open one, fully interconnectable. Managed by the community, forever. Any one can connect his own application. If you build an application with proprietary database, no one will use it. IF you connect to a central resources system so it is completely different. I pay you but those informations will be accessible forever, whatever is going to happen. Your company may fail, your application may vanish, but the links are all there, in the central database. This is the end of the dissipative world we are used to.

HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY BE PROTECTED BY SPAM?
ARK contains a simple and experimental democratic BLACKFLAG managment system. Plus, in extreme, a brutal censorship function managed by the operators (BOTs owners).

SO DO I BUY A "FUTURE PROJECT"?
No, as soon as you buy, the game starts. This is not an [ICO], you buy a ready instance of a web-service. [SSS] stands for Start Software Sale. It is a completely new model. Get used to it, tons of collaborative markets to come... any web service can be transformed into a collaborative market, granting accessibility to informations, and wide spread of resources.

WHY NOT AN ICO?
We don't build coins. We build Markets. We don't look for money for future projects: we build the technology => we sell it. You know in advance what you invest for. Period.

CAN I MINE A BOT?
Of course! Ethereum miners are rewarded. If you find a block and a transaction happens inside ARK, so your wallet gets a CLAIMABLE BOT. Claimable BOT's are property of ARK operators, they are given for free, you pay only the administrative fee (around 0.1 ETH instead of full price 1ETH). Money are earnt by the CURRENT SELLER, depending on the step of the TRUSTLESS MULTIPLEXER. There will be only a limited amount of Claimable BOTs. (10% of total BOTs) If you don't claim a bot the next miner will claim it in your place. You can still claim yours later, assuming there are still any available.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER COLLABORATIVE MARKET?
We have a dream. We are working for it, stay tuned.





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August 08, 2016, 10:30:55 PM
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I see you've picked the best logo. good choice Cheesy

WHY the forum isn't showing my image? lol

because account is new. please check inbox messages
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August 08, 2016, 10:32:24 PM
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I see you've picked the best logo. good choice Cheesy

WHY the forum isn't showing my image? lol

because of your forum rank. (sent you a PM)

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August 08, 2016, 10:37:49 PM
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i like the idea,understandable, but not promising to reinvent the wheel Wink

is there a reason for the anon newbie account?  adds alot of credibility to an ICO if we know there's any liability if you poof ;p

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i like the idea,understandable, but not promising to reinvent the wheel Wink

is there a reason for the anon newbie account?  adds alot of credibility to an ICO if we know there's any liability if you poof ;p

No I opened this account long ago, but I never used it. first time. I will see if I can change the name.
Actually it isn't really an ICO, it is a bit different. Anyway it isn't a try to reinvent the wheel, instead it is a try to organize a serious system with invoices and billing, blueprinting the dynamics of existing "real-world" systems.

We just apply the blockchain to things. For the external world we are reinventing the wheel, for people like you not, because you already digested all the concepts.
We apply them, in the way you expect it. We try to transform any service into a DAO. Managed by the people.

The most interesting point is to see how the community would use it, what kind of spam level it will reach. And more, you can really see how much it costs to send an invoice using ethereum, and register users, or to modify data and keep them tracked using only the smart contract.
And how to find data in a smart contract? All little questions, but if you are involved in ethereum you will find a (possible) answer for any of these problems giving a try to ARK. We believe this little DAPP to be a great example, something to have a look at, especially for developers. We all like the idea of DAOs. Soon or later we will have to test one. And we will explore massively all connected issues. Very difficult to predict. So we built ARK, and now we can try a Democratic interface and see the result of a real ongoing process.

Stay tuned. It costs nothing! Or just buy 1 BOT for fun (around 1 ETH), so  you can really test the whole interface and have a better idea.  
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August 08, 2016, 11:09:55 PM
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I was thinking if your project is worth listing in my blog.

http://btc12.com
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August 08, 2016, 11:19:28 PM
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Any mining involved?

Binance, hottest/largest alt exchange, 2BTC daily no verification. https://www.binance.com/?ref=13309371
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August 08, 2016, 11:23:16 PM
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I was thinking if your project is worth listing in my blog.

http://btc12.com

Well, your posts appear to be quite selected!
Have a look to our description, maybe connect to our facebook page, in the next days we are going to release screenshots of the dapp.
Later If you find it enough interesting and you write a couple lines and you post them on your blog you get 3 BOTs, so you can play for free and test how is to have to deal with a community to decide the costs of a service !
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August 08, 2016, 11:23:38 PM
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i like the idea,understandable, but not promising to reinvent the wheel Wink

is there a reason for the anon newbie account?  adds alot of credibility to an ICO if we know there's any liability if you poof ;p

No I opened this account long ago, but I never used it. first time. I will see if I can change the name.
Actually it isn't really an ICO, it is a bit different. Anyway it isn't a try to reinvent the wheel, instead it is a try to organize a serious system with invoices and billing, blueprinting the dynamics of existing "real-world" systems.

We just apply the blockchain to things. For the external world we are reinventing the wheel, for people like you not, because you already digested all the concepts.
We apply them, in the way you expect it. We try to transform any service into a DAO. Managed by the people.

The most interesting point is to see how the community would use it, what kind of spam level it will reach. And more, you can really see how much it costs to send an invoice using ethereum, and register users, or to modify data and keep them tracked using only the smart contract.
And how to find data in a smart contract? All little questions, but if you are involved in ethereum you will find a (possible) answer for any of these problems giving a try to ARK. We believe this little DAPP to be a great example, something to have a look at, especially for developers. We all like the idea of DAOs. Soon or later we will have to test one. And we will explore massively all connected issues. Very difficult to predict. So we built ARK, and now we can try a Democratic interface and see the result of a real ongoing process.

Stay tuned. It costs nothing! Or just buy 1 BOT for fun (around 1 ETH), so  you can really test the whole interface and have a better idea.  


cool man, decent response thx!  i respect a dev that meets all questions and concerns head on, will def be watching this one!

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August 08, 2016, 11:29:37 PM
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I was thinking if your project is worth listing in my blog.

http://btc12.com

your website looks cool, wish i understood it.. get someone to translate it to English Cheesy I'm sure ppl would love that

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August 08, 2016, 11:31:21 PM
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A DAO with so much features. Keeping an eye on this. More information please.

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August 08, 2016, 11:32:36 PM
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Any mining involved?


10% to grant new people involved in the project after the start sale. ARK rewards ethereum miners (from the very first minute after launch). Just go on with mining ethereum, if you find a block and meanwhile someone is using ark you get rewarded.
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August 08, 2016, 11:34:19 PM
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I was thinking if your project is worth listing in my blog.

http://btc12.com

your website looks cool, wish i understood it.. get someone to translate it to English Cheesy I'm sure ppl would love that

Thanks for your comment.

I am doing this specially for Chinese investors, those who can't understand newest ICO or alt coins very well.

I am putting red flag to those coins without solid foundations and background information.  but anyway   a chance to speculate Smiley

I also have some ability to scavenge insides of all coins. so this blog is a bridge between devs and investors.

it already has viral effects among Chinese Crypto land.  so let's see what i can do.
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August 08, 2016, 11:36:31 PM
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I was thinking if your project is worth listing in my blog.

http://btc12.com

your website looks cool, wish i understood it.. get someone to translate it to English Cheesy I'm sure ppl would love that

Thanks for your comment.

I am doing this specially for Chinese investors, those who can't understand newest ICO or alt coins very well.

I am putting red flag to those coins without solid foundations and background information.  but anyway   a chance to speculate Smiley

I also have some ability to scavenge insides of all coins. so this blog is a bridge between devs and investors.

it already has viral effects among Chinese Crypto land.  so let's see what i can do.

Awesome! keep it up Cheesy It's important that everyone in the world gets a chance to understand this brave new world

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August 08, 2016, 11:48:57 PM
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A DAO with so much features. Keeping an eye on this. More information please.


Coin listing
Modifying existing Coins
Tagging coins
Search by tag
Blackflagging system with approvation by members
Voting system for extreme censorship
Voting system for services prices
Collaborative market cycling 6 different services
BOT buy/sell system
Companies managment
Very Simple (neanderthal style) document system
Search low cost BOTS (managed with efforts by web3.js, it would be too expensive for a smart contract)
Complete billing system with:
Search bill by BOT
search bill by buyer wallet
Search bill by seller wallet
Search company by wallet
List companies
Mantain old companies informations for bills registered before the company changed name
Bounty system
Mining Bounty system
Advertising system (under coins)
Home advertising system (in home page with different costs and different multiplexer cycle)
Stats for everything
Basically extensible in its semantics (the future may be seriously different!)
Muting system for emergency (works only during startsale!)

The important informations can be accessed form outside. In case of fatal disaster (or absolutely needed evolution) we imagined, one day, to build a TRUSTLESS BLUEPRINTER CONTRACT, capable of cloning the PROPERTIES from an old contract to the new one.
ARK is ready to be connected to such a blueprinter.

Any user can withdraw his money at any time. Manually (for security reasons)

Believe it or not, all this cake was squeezed into a single Etherem contract.
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August 08, 2016, 11:58:01 PM
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ARE THERE ANY OTHER COLLABORATIVE MARKET?
We have a dream. We are working for it, stay tuned.




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Just finished some reading from ARK website. The FAQ section was real pleasure to read! Everywords of that are free -flowing and enjoyable.
And the idea to build a vast recourse of Coin information by using smart contract also very cool. It could leads us to solve nowadays investors greatest concern to become scamed by almost every new project of cryptocurrency.
I'm not an expert of cryptocurrency scams! But a believer knowledge. If their is nothing to be learn, what else will prevent you from trapped by bad Actors?

I want to see success of ARK! The reality of initial dream !
Then keeping bad actors at bay from scaming cryptocurrency lovers will be lot more easier!

Thanks!




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Last edit: August 09, 2016, 09:36:15 AM by davide72
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hi dev sent an email with the crypto website  i would love to use to spreed your coin! how long should i wait for an answer?
thanks
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