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August 11, 2016, 06:01:48 AM
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I know that decentralized currency means that no central bank can control the money supply.

But what if 2-3 major players own 40-50% of all the bitcoins.

Do you still think that the currrency is "decentralized" if 2 or 5 or even 10 big players can control the btc price

just by selling and buying large amounts of bitcoins.

What do you think about that?




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August 11, 2016, 06:18:34 AM
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In case they are also miners this is very bad. If they just own 40 - 50% of bitcoins, I do not think that they will be interesting in degradation of this technology or lower down the price. If price will be higher we all will be in good profit.  Grin

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August 11, 2016, 06:24:16 AM
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Yes, it's decentralized. The system is. It doesn't matter about how much you own, what could make the system centralised iis if one miner has control of 51% or more of the mining Power, or if a group/entity had this power.

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August 11, 2016, 06:45:10 AM
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I know that decentralized currency means that no central bank can control the money supply.

But what if 2-3 major players own 40-50% of all the bitcoins.

Do you still think that the currrency is "decentralized" if 2 or 5 or even 10 big players can control the btc price

just by selling and buying large amounts of bitcoins.

What do you think about that?




It is decentralized in a sense that noone can increase or decrease the total supply or creation of coins.
Price may be manipulated by big players who have large holdings but that is another thing and it doesn't makes bitcoin less decentralized
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August 11, 2016, 06:46:12 AM
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As far as i know the biggest play has about 5% so this is not worrisome and i am sure we will be fine in the future.
More concerning would be a miner with 51% mining power, which already happened before with mining pools if i remember correctly.
But the community corrects this situations usually very quickly, since it is not good for anybody. Not even for the 51% miner since he is at risk loosing all because of bitcoin using its value.
 

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August 11, 2016, 06:50:07 AM
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Bitcoin is decentralized , not sure miner always hold more 51 percent , it is always buy and sell method , and people whoever using bitcoin they want this technology to be retained in future also . it looks there is no issue with bitcoin and not to worry  Smiley.

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August 11, 2016, 06:57:05 AM
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Yes, it's decentralized. The system is. It doesn't matter about how much you own, what could make the system centralised iis if one miner has control of 51% or more of the mining Power, or if a group/entity had this power.
That's right the decentralized is just having a relationship with the system of bitcoin and not having relationship with how many you are having the volume of bitcoin but maybe having a lot the volume of bitcoin is make possible for your to giving a big impact for bitcoin especially for their price.

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August 11, 2016, 07:00:48 AM
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August 11, 2016, 07:07:05 AM
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Yes, it's decentralized. The system is. It doesn't matter about how much you own, what could make the system centralised iis if one miner has control of 51% or more of the mining Power, or if a group/entity had this power.
Yes right i does not depending on any government or authority and as you are talking if some one hold about 30-40% bitcoins it still wont matter and this only cannot make it centralised.Bitcoin is decentralised and never will be in control of one person or a group of people.
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August 11, 2016, 07:47:04 AM
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Bitcoin/blockchain is decentralized system and there are many nodes opertor worldwide which is supporting bitcoin network that means bitcoin ledger information is actually stored in many location in world making bitcoin completely decentralized. Price can get manipulated but network can't be manipulated or centralized.

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August 11, 2016, 08:44:00 AM
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Yes bitcoin is decentralize there are many site bitcoin came from and the government can not control the bitcoin movement that is why the price of bitcoin is not stable and also not all country are using bitcoin.
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August 11, 2016, 08:48:37 AM
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price can be manipulated, but network cant be manipulated, but stable and centralized!!!
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August 11, 2016, 08:59:54 AM
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Bitcoin is the first decentralised currency. It doesn't really matter as to how much BTC you own. Even if you own 90% of Bitcoin, it isn't going to make the cryptocurrency any more centralised.

However, a problem could arise if only one party controlled 51% or more of mining power. This could harm the current decentralised system.

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August 11, 2016, 09:01:59 AM
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I know that decentralized currency means that no central bank can control the money supply.

But what if 2-3 major players own 40-50% of all the bitcoins.

Do you still think that the currrency is "decentralized" if 2 or 5 or even 10 big players can control the btc price

just by selling and buying large amounts of bitcoins.

What do you think about that?




I am still not convinced that the current bitcoin could be centralized. bitcoin system is anonymouse, and bitcoin is controlled by all stakeholders.
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August 11, 2016, 12:31:13 PM
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The concept of a decentralized currency has nothing to do with ownership distribution. That's typical socialist mind confusion. The fluctuations in (fiat) price are totally irrelevant to determine if a currency is decentralized or not.

The essential aspect of Bitcoin is that the verification of ownership is handled in a decentralized way. It also means that no single entity can manipulate transaction flow or monetary supply. Every owner of Bitcoin can only exert control over his/her own Bitcoin - owning a large amount grants no special rights.

In contrast to fiat money there is no central bank that controls money creation (and thereby inflation). Bitcoin is not dependent on government's monetary policy, because it's parameters are handled by an algorithm that the whole network mutually agrees on. Therefore it is decentralized.

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August 11, 2016, 12:34:16 PM
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what if 2-3 major players own 40-50% of all the bitcoins.
Do you still think that the currrency is "decentralized" if 2 or 5 or even 10 big players can control the btc price just by selling and buying large amounts of bitcoins.

Yes.

What do you think about that?

I think:

  • You don't understand what the intended meaning is when bitcoin is described as decentralized
  • Those attempting to control the price will eventually run out of bitcoins
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August 11, 2016, 03:20:29 PM
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I know that decentralized currency means that no central bank can control the money supply.

But what if 2-3 major players own 40-50% of all the bitcoins.

Do you still think that the currrency is "decentralized" if 2 or 5 or even 10 big players can control the btc price

just by selling and buying large amounts of bitcoins.

What do you think about that?





doesnt matter how much big players, they will eventually run out of bitcoins. it's like what we are seeing in ETH vs ETC, the ETC holders are trying to destabilize the price, but, even if they crash to 1 satoshi, if the market is strong enough they will absorb all and the price will come back.
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August 11, 2016, 03:30:02 PM
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Yes bitcoin is decentralize there are many site bitcoin came from and the government can not control the bitcoin movement that is why the price of bitcoin is not stable and also not all country are using bitcoin.

i secondly that this!!!
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August 11, 2016, 03:38:01 PM
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owning that much bitcoin doesn't mean you could control bitcoin,everyday a new bitcoin was mined and generated so the total of bitcoin always increasing day by day,if you own about 50% of bitcoin today,maybe next year you'll holding 40% of bitcoin and it'll keep up until the bitcoin reward which those miners get from mining is none
although the key that makes bitcoin decentralized is the miners not depending on how much you're currently holding now,and it's how blockchain system work in my opinion

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August 11, 2016, 03:46:18 PM
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Yes bitcoin is decentralize there are many site bitcoin came from and the government can not control the bitcoin movement that is why the price of bitcoin is not stable and also not all country are using bitcoin.
i guess when a government can't control bitcoin,it have nothing to do with the unstability of the price,unless they creating some new regulations,it'll giving an affect if it's quite big news whether it's bad or good

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