Islam and stereotypes

[Lethn]

The problem is the crusades were 100's of years ago when the human race was less evolved.

Islam is a pain in the ass right now world wide.

What pisses me off is the complete lack of integration, trying to impose Sharia wherever they go, recent raping spree etc.

you are completely right . islamic terrorisim is the biggest problem of the world currently not islamic religious . Muslim people must integrate in the western countiries where they immigrated. they can pray freely there without forcing western countries to become a islamic state.

I think one of the reasons that Muslims come here trying to impose Sharia despite claiming to 'hate' people like ISIS is they're trying to pick and choose what laws they follow. Most Muslims are pretty much advocating a version of Sharia Lite. So they still want gays and women to be treated like shit, they still want to have all sorts of bullshit rules like not being able to insult the prophet mohammed they just don't want to go along with the more literal interpretations of the Qu'ran that ISIS follows.

In short, they're a bunch of hypocrites and I'm sick of them trying to play the victim whenever someone calls them out on their bullshit, I've genuinely stopped caring about being called a 'Racist' or 'Islamaphobe' in regards to Islam now, at least I'm not the one openly supporting a fucking cult.

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[just_Alice]

All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this

I totally agree with you, Islam is not the thing, which most people think is it. Terrorism has nothing to do with religion. We don't consider Christianity as terrorism, nevertheless they did the Crusades..

[Lethn]

All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this

I totally agree with you, Islam is not the thing, which most people think is it. Terrorism has nothing to do with religion. We don't consider Christianity as terrorism, nevertheless they did the Crusades..

And again you fall back on "But Christians did it too!" don't you realise how pathetic that kind of thing makes you look? How about, I don't know.... Perhaps saying that Sharia law is a bad thing and that Islam should work to stop abusing peoples' human rights?

Or would that be too fucking hard for you?

[markj113]

I totally agree with you, Islam is not the thing, which most people think is it. Terrorism has nothing to do with religion. We don't consider Christianity as terrorism, nevertheless they did the Crusades..

The crusades took place during the 13th Century, every person on the planet involved is long gone.  Get the fuck over it and move on  

[Hirose UK]

All the stereotypes here thinks that Islam only orders to kill ..but let me tell you Islam Gave rights to women and gave every human being their rights to live and right to make property and rights of the neighbours ............Islam is here for the previous 1400 years and Islamic terriosm Only started After United States started to Invade Muslim Countries ? Whats your take on this

of course. Islam is the peace religion if people really know about it. we can't even kill non muslims if they aren't against us. and in the war, we have rules:
1. “Do not kill any child, any woman, or any elder or sick person.” (Sunan Abu Dawud)

2. “Do not practice treachery or mutilation.(Al-Muwatta)

3. Do not uproot or burn palms or cut down fruitful trees.(Al-Muwatta)

4. Do not slaughter a sheep or a cow or a camel, except for food.” (Al-Muwatta)

5. “If one fights his brother, [he must] avoid striking the face, for God created him in the image of Adam.” (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim)

6. “Do not kill the monks in monasteries, and do not kill those sitting in places of worship. (Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal)

7. “Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle.” (Sahih Bukhari; Sunan Abu Dawud)

8. “Do not wish for an encounter with the enemy; pray to God to grant you security; but when you [are forced to] encounter them, exercise patience.” (Sahih Muslim)

9. “No one may punish with fire except the Lord of Fire.” (Sunan Abu Dawud).

10. “Accustom yourselves to do good if people do good, and to not do wrong even if they commit evil.” (Al-Tirmidhi)

so don't get it wrong. Islam is not a cruel religion. just read Qur'an and hadith to know what Islam really is. don't judge the religion based on the believers, but judge it by reading the religion book, Qur'an, and the Prophet's deeds.

[markj113]

Islam is the peace religion if people really know about it. we can't even kill non muslims if they aren't against us.

You speak about non-muslims like they are inferior, and they wont be killed if they do as you say.

Kind of proves the point.

[Lethn]

Hirose, you're full of shit, like all Muslims you nitpick at quotes and keep out the full context of the Qu'ran in order to make it seem more moderate.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to believe that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous (the actual Arabic words for persecution - "idtihad" - and oppression - a variation of "z-l-m" - do not appear in the verse). The word used instead, "fitna", can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief.

And this was just a fucking paragraph! Your religion and texts are literally stating that being a non-believer is worse than being a murderer.

 Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

I enjoy this particular little bit directly telling people to punish those who reject Islam but really there's hundreds of quotes like these in the Qu'ran.

[Spendulus]

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You want to prove to me that muslims are good? THEN GO WIPE OUT ISIS..

I want no but but but stupid excuses.. We are about ready to wipe them out from across the world and you fucks wont even wipe them out in your own back yards..

For me this just about sums it up. 

[Lethn]

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You want to prove to me that muslims are good? THEN GO WIPE OUT ISIS..

I want no but but but stupid excuses.. We are about ready to wipe them out from across the world and you fucks wont even wipe them out in your own back yards..

For me this just about sums it up. 

Even Bill Maher made this point using simple numbers, the surrounding nations in the middle east totally outnumber ISIS and would defeat them in seconds if they all went in at once. Do they do it though? No, they make up bullshit and claim they're too powerful or elusive and ask for America's help.

[Tyrantt]

And after all of thos rules, they still live live savages.

[BADecker]

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You want to prove to me that muslims are good? THEN GO WIPE OUT ISIS..

I want no but but but stupid excuses.. We are about ready to wipe them out from across the world and you fucks wont even wipe them out in your own back yards..

For me this just about sums it up. 

Even Bill Maher made this point using simple numbers, the surrounding nations in the middle east totally outnumber ISIS and would defeat them in seconds if they all went in at once. Do they do it though? No, they make up bullshit and claim they're too powerful or elusive and ask for America's help.

The main reason the U.S. created ISIS is that they needed a distraction from 9/11. People were beginning to see that 9/11 was an inside job. So, government had to show them how bad Islam really was. So they created ISIS to help the people forget that 9/11 was an inside job, and focus in anger and hate on the lie that Islamic Arabs did it.

[Spendulus]

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You want to prove to me that muslims are good? THEN GO WIPE OUT ISIS..

I want no but but but stupid excuses.. We are about ready to wipe them out from across the world and you fucks wont even wipe them out in your own back yards..

For me this just about sums it up. 

Even Bill Maher made this point using simple numbers, the surrounding nations in the middle east totally outnumber ISIS and would defeat them in seconds if they all went in at once. Do they do it though? No, they make up bullshit and claim they're too powerful or elusive and ask for America's help.

I'm certain we could show from the Koran, large numbers of scriptures which showed that a good Muslim must go take up arms and slaughter the ISIS.