[FACTS] Defending America ?

[Spoetnik]

I made this topic to share my views and maybe see yours everyone.
On America..

I am first in line to criticize the US government.
BUT !

I actually think the vast majority of intentions behind decision making is honest.
For example..
I just seen a guy say they prob invaded the Middle-East for Oil or Heroin etc.
I have heard that lots.. never believed it either.

What i think happened is they felt they needed to act on Terrorist strong holds.
I don't think they went in for oil.. i think that is silly bullshit.
But Is there financial interests with war ? Of course !

Bottom line is i think they often mean well but wind up making bad decisions.
For another example..
The Pakistani raid to get Bin laden.
They had only a best guess off 50/50 it was actually him..
Yet they permitted soldiers to go on an assignation mission.
Meaning 50/50 we got the right guys but 100% chance that people in that house was going to die !
Sound fair ? Reasonable ?

This should have been dealt with elsewhere and he should have been put on trial like Saddam Husein.
This would have also quieted down conspiracy theorists too who love speculating etc.

People around the world think the US is the evil boogy-man trying to rob you of your money / land / oil etc
I hear a LOT of crazy accusations and i think they are 99% bullshit.
Military men want to do their jobs like politicians.
But let's say you knew where a criminal was but you had to violate his legal right to get him..
Do you do it ?
Often i think think the US govt would say hell yeah let's get the guy NOW !
Where as i would say NO.. wait for your FAIR chance.

I see the US govt is a multi tiered series of agencies that seem to operate above and beyond any sort of laws.
They don't seem to abide by any really.
The US govt simply does what it wants.. regardless.
And that is where people get the corrupt agenda's from.

The key is the people trying to take control of their govt ..not the other way around.
You all in the US should have never let your govt get that far out of your control.
After all in the long run it's you the voters that suffer the consequences time after time.

Half the battle is simply caring.
Take some interest and vote people.
And be heard too ..don't sit on the sidelines in silence.

Me ?
I am just trying to hammer home the message we are all good/bad all over the world.
No one is more corrupt than an another.. but which govt is getting away with more bullshit ?
Is the US govt held accountable ?
NO !
Most of the stuff they do is not even publicly known so how can it be ?
What drives it all ?
Crazy conspiracy theories ? LOL
Hell no !

Like Trump just said Obama started ISIS
Really ?
Like that is the kind of fucking psychotic lunatic crap i am talking about.
I urge people to use common sense and not *assume* crack pot crazy theories.

I think for the most part they are all trying to do their job.
Like G.W. Bush ..his time in office was a joke but i honestly think he was trying to do his job
..how he thought he should.

Although the Middle East invasion may be 1 exception ion that..
Who here think Bush Sr. didn't tell his son YOU HAVE TO INVADE ?
So i think to some extent he was looking for away to get in there and finish off Saddam Husein for good.
Since the last time with Bush Sr. failed..

Do i think he went in for Oil ? Hell NO !
Did they see it as a possible bonus of sorts ? Maybe.. the main plan / agenda ? naw that is nonsense.
He was trying to do his job LOL
He just sucked at it.

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[Masha Sha]

Retaliation for 9.11. Iraq being the center of the Middle East from there no one could have had a chance... Afg the hills.

America 101 they kill us, we kill them... Since the first contact with the native. 0 appeasement. 100% messianic, totally exceptionally constitutional fundamentalist.

All opposition will face full spectrum dominance.

And as the saying goes shoot first ask question later...

Aka everything that the obamanites hates... Build by white men engaged in slavery among other things...

[Spoetnik]

Oh i agree with retaliation for 911
Bush Jr said it himself on TV ..he made no secret he was going in for revenge.
This can not be denied.

Nor can his "Faith"
Which is hypocrisy as a "Christian"

And don't forget the USA's official Moto.. "in God We Trust"
..rolling tanks in on "Muslim" Terrorists ..so yeah of course this was going to be a BIG problem.

Which makes my case even more here.. Decision making.
The US general did not try too hard to refuse Bush.. they were more than willing to dive in ASAP head first.
And the US govt infrastructure needed to make better decisions over all.
Which should be serving the people.. which it seemed to me the US public back then did not want the war.
Which is why there was so many protests against it.

Which tells me it's govt making bad decisions while abusing the power it has.

The US loves to bash foreign countries for enslaving their people but look around.
The US has a choke hold on their citizens big time !
And it blows me away how they are mostly all fine with it and actually defend it.
Then i wonder why

They are co-opted pretty much..
They get what they want and then let the dog run loose.

Problem is the Towers get hit.. or...
That system is not sustainable !

Those 911 towers should have been a crystal clear wake up call your govt has been way out of control for way too long.


EDIT:

I NEVER viewed the attack on the towers on 911 as an attack on the citizens of the USA.
They were simply used as a tool by Terrorists.
The message was sent to the US govt !
The citizens were casualties sitting on the sidelines.. in between the two groups battling.
The two groups being The US Govt vs the Terrorists.

[criptix]

Didn't bush said that God told him to invade iraq or Afghanistan?

Would all this together make it a holy war a la middle age crusade?

[BADecker]

I have heard it said that you are from Canada. Canada and the USA are both common law nations. If you really want to do something about the problems of both nations, you want to learn what Karl Lentz does and copy him. Watch Karl Lentz talking to the cop who gave him a traffic ticket, after the trial that Karl won - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10#t=06m55s. We can do this to get out of income taxes, and 99% of the things that the governments of both countries do to us.

If it was the law that you could check a little box on the income tax form, and then you wouldn't have to pay any income taxes at all, what would you do? Some people would still donate to government. But most would keep their wages. Government would dwindle to nothing. All the garbage that Canadian and USA governments do would fade away, because there wouldn't be any tax money for them to do these garbage things any longer.

Learn Karl. This is one of the things he is showing us... how to stop paying taxes.

[Masha Sha]

I have heard it said that you are from Canada. Canada and the USA are both common law nations. If you really want to do something about the problems of both nations, you want to learn what Karl Lentz does and copy him. Watch Karl Lentz talking to the cop who gave him a traffic ticket, after the trial that Karl won - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twn96nj0jfw&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-D&index=10#t=06m55s. We can do this to get out of income taxes, and 99% of the things that the governments of both countries do to us.

If it was the law that you could check a little box on the income tax form, and then you wouldn't have to pay any income taxes at all, what would you do? Some people would still donate to government. But most would keep their wages. Government would dwindle to nothing. All the garbage that Canadian and USA governments do would fade away, because there wouldn't be any tax money for them to do these garbage things any longer.

Learn Karl. This is one of the things he is showing us... how to stop paying taxes.

How to have defense without taxation? Remember the USA is a beautiful land...from coast to coast, north to south it's just majestic... So a lot of regime would be very interested in conquering it... Starting by those nasty Canadians or Mexicans... So the founders of America in their quest for liberty and the inalienable rights given by God decided to create a common defense so that all fuckers that may attack America will rest in peace sooner or later... Who, where ever they may be... Including outa space.

Now a question to you: do you really believe in no defense force for USA? No fleets, no army, nothing just some militia men? The nazis, Japan, Soviet Union or earlier France, England or the Mexican would have decimated America long ago.

It's a dangerous world...

[mindrust]

There are two poles in the world right now.

First pole includes: Hillary, Germany, France, Big Finance Companies (like S&P, MerryllLynch, Goldass), Drug Companies, Some Shady Organisations in the US, Kurds, Isis, Syrian Rebels, Turkish Coup Supporters, Some African Countries.

Second Pole includes: Donald J Trump, Vladimir Putin, China, Iran, Bashar Assad.

Turkey used to be in the first group. Turkey did whatever USA asked for 15 years, that includes helping terrorist organisations. But USA and Germany wasn't happy with Turkey's recent actions about the refugees and some other things and they decided to make a modification in Turkey. So, they plotted a coup in order to take down their useless puppet. With Putin's help to Turkey, they failed the coup for now. Now Turkey is in the second pole. They figured out the idendity of coup supporters. They completely teared their bonds with EU and they practically told USA to "fuck off".

Like Turkey, there is another old ally of the Western World. Saudi Arabia. As you know, oil prices are at the bottom at the moment. That's because The agreement between USA and Saudi Arabia has come to an end. Saudi's would like keep the agreement as it is but USA doesn't want that. Arab dudes figured that out and they are waiting for the election result to act.

In this picture, I support Mr. Donald J Trump. Because that Hillary bith will only make things worse. She is no different than Obama and Obama sucks.