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August 14, 2016, 10:01:25 AM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 

it depends on the "people" themselves, those who you want to convince to use bitcoin and also the people who are trying to do the convincing.

some people are just closed minded so they will resist adopting a new technology and will never do it no matter how much you try but some others would accept you with open arms.

also you should have the skills to show them how to start using bitcoin and why it is better for them to do it. and if you don't know it completely yourself then it would be a hard argument to win.

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August 14, 2016, 10:13:08 AM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 

Much easier a local store! because they can spend coins in various situation in real life!
An employer should buy first btc (and then pay a little fees) need some adapt in the business books...
and even he can ask: why not exchange by your self?!
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August 14, 2016, 10:21:09 AM
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Employers are easier to be convinced  i think. Still, they will most likely to pay your salary in Btc from its current USD value. That's no different than buying bitcoin with your money.

Vendors can be convinced easily too if they think they will get more customers by doing so. Most of them convert their btc's to Fiat as soon as possible though.

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August 14, 2016, 10:21:32 AM
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Neither is easy. Both employers and stores find it risky and not sure what their benefits would be. But if I have to choose I think that it would be much more easier toq convince the stores to accept Bitcoin as a one of payment options. They are more flexible then employers.
Yes, I have the same thought as yours, because most employers are afraid of risks that bitcoin could bring and they are not as flexible as stores or just simply they do not trust bitcoin or even know about them, employers can hardly accept such a tricky suggestion like that.
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August 14, 2016, 10:46:38 AM
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to be honest i do not like this bar tab idea much. here is why.
you play the man in the middle. you are handling other peoples money.
this means you run a business and need to pay taxes, most likely some kind of licence and also receipts.
then there is also the risk, that the owner will just keep your money, because what do you want to do about it.
i do not see an incentive to go solo. the owner could just stop using bitcoin if you stop the risk free middleman service.
if you want people using bitcoin, then let them use it, do not do it for them.

and there is the problem
people want their own local store to accept bitcoin but are too scared to stand with their own local store and help them set it up. they think "someone else should do it" (quoting many other people from the past)
you do realise that although bitpay and coinbase are a 'someone else', but training a retailer about bitcoin, satisfying their questions and aversion to try something new that has negative press isnt going to magic itself away simply because your sitting in your house wishing your local corner store would take bitcoin. if you want your local store to accept bitcoin, you need to be involved with helping them out. not crying from a sofa.

as for needing to be a business. my idea is not a permanent solution and not a solution for national chains. its just a few week introduction which due to not every customer being a bitcoin holder, wont involve much cashflow. and because of this. that small amount of support you offer to introduce them to bitcoin, wont meet the financial thresholds to consider you as a business, nor a MSB in most countries(pretty much all, but i havnt checked them all)

like i said its just a bar tab.
just like prepaying anything.. drinks in a pub, wedding planning, cinema bookings, pre-release video games,
your just prepaying for future customer and accepting bitcoin as a 'ticket' that the business has processed a cash transaction.

if you think a local store is going to do over a few thousand $$ in bitcoin transaction in just a few weeks, then you are mistaken.
in most cases the money you will use as a bar tab is no different then buying a round of drinks for a group of 6 people.

this topic is about local stores.. not international corporations afterall.

the way i see it is this
if you live in a small town in england. and you know a shop in YOUR town that YOU wish would accept bitcoin. dont sit on your sofa crying about how some corporation in america hasnt spent thousands of dollars to travel to your small town to train the small shop about bitcoin, offering their services as a middleman. do what i did and help the shop understand what bitcoin is and how easy it is to accept bitcoin just using basically a calculator and a piece of paper with a QR code on it. once they are happy then they can decide how popular it is to go it alone, or not bother after a while.

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August 14, 2016, 10:50:07 AM
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I think there is bitwage from which employer can easily send you your salary in form of bitcoin but they are not available worldwide so if we look in worldwide scenario convincing employer to pay in bitcoin is hard while as if there is anything like bitcoin exchanger or bitcoin atm locally than it will be easier to convince local merchants to start accepting bitcoin.
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August 14, 2016, 11:02:07 AM
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to be honest i do not like this bar tab idea much. here is why.
you play the man in the middle. you are handling other peoples money.
this means you run a business and need to pay taxes, most likely some kind of licence and also receipts.
then there is also the risk, that the owner will just keep your money, because what do you want to do about it.
i do not see an incentive to go solo. the owner could just stop using bitcoin if you stop the risk free middleman service.
if you want people using bitcoin, then let them use it, do not do it for them.

and there is the problem
people want a store to accept bitcoin but are too scared to stand with the store and help them set it up. they think "someone else should do it" (quoting many other people from the past)
you do realise that although bitpay and coinbase are a 'someone else', but training a retailer about bitcoin, satisfying their questions and aversion to try something new that has negative press isnt going to magic itself away simply because your sitting in your house wishing your local corner store would take bitcoin. if you want your local store to accept bitcoin, you need to be involved with helping them out. not crying from a sofa.

as for needing to be a business. my idea is not a permanent solution and not a solution for national chains. its just a few week introduction which due to not every customer being a bitcoin holder, wont involve much cashflow. and because of this. that small amount of support you offer to introduce them to bitcoin, wont meet the financial thresholds to consider you as a business, nor a MSB in most countries(pretty much all, but i havnt checked them all)

like i said its just a bar tab.
just like prepaying anything.. drinks in a pub, wedding planning, cinema bookings, pre-release video games,
your just prepaying for future customer and accepting bitcoin as a 'ticket' that the business has processed a cash transaction.

if you think a local store is going to do over a few thousand $$ in bitcoin transaction in just a few weeks, then you are mistaken.
in most cases the money you will use as a bar tab is no different then buying a round of drinks for a group of 6 people.

this topic is about local stores.. not international corporations afterall

i see we can agree that you need to act instead of just wining and demanding things happen magically.
but why would you not want to teach them directly. you have to put work into it and explain a lot and set almost everything up for them. work for you in both cases, but i do not see why i should offer a free trial as men in the middle.
i would be even more suspicious if someone would show me a safe way first and then the next time i will have to do it for myself and risk my own money.
this is how a good con works.
so why not tell them from the beginning about the risk THEY will have to take. to be honest works best in these situations if you want long term users. also with own money involved it might need more convincing, but they will put more effort into learning it.

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August 14, 2016, 11:06:16 AM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 
I think that it will be great for local stores to accept Bitcoin.

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August 14, 2016, 11:08:01 AM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 
I think if explained properly,local store will see it as an opportunity to further increase it's sell and grow business as it will attract bitcoin users besides fiat for which many stores are available.Employer on the other hand might fear resistance from his employees who may not be interested to get paid in bitcoin.So we have to convince both employees and employer which may be an uphill task
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August 14, 2016, 11:16:32 AM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 
I think if explained properly,local store will see it as an opportunity to further increase it's sell and grow business as it will attract bitcoin users besides fiat for which many stores are available.Employer on the other hand might fear resistance from his employees who may not be interested to get paid in bitcoin.So we have to convince both employees and employer which may be an uphill task

Well theres a big risk for local store to accept btc in form since theirs a flactuation event happening for itself daily but i think if btc will convert to dollar form will provably convince some local store and online store to accept it,

And for employees giving a btc in salary will be a bad idea for them since we know that only limited banks are accepting direct exchange to btc and it can be an addition hassle for them if it will be really implemented.

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August 14, 2016, 02:07:50 PM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 

I think it is much easier to convince your employer to you through bitcoin especially if the employer knows that bitcoin really gives them advantages in terms of taxes that they should have to pay for their employee. It  may apply to store also but salary of course is consist of much higher amounts.
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August 14, 2016, 02:41:08 PM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 
i think it's depend on wheter situation and personality of the person, in my exprience i always told to everyone about bitcoin, in local shop, my partner business and other, bitcoin will be gladly accepted for those who familiar with it, geek or for those who like something new and inovation, i told my partner to pay me with bitcoin and he did, it's easy i think since he already knew it, but i never tried for those who not familiar with it,  you know what it is to hard to convince local shop to accept bitcoin as payment method, i dont know why they're scared or something else, but it seems like they feel that payment method that they're using right know are safe, popullar than bitcoin just my thought
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August 14, 2016, 03:08:08 PM
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Its very hard to convince any local store to accept bitcoin. First it needed internet access to do the payment. Second, the payment process takes a little bit of time than paying a physical money. And third, the fluctuation of btc value. The price of your product is very unstable. Maybe you can do it in an online store because its an fast and easy way to pay.
Employer is easier to convince but it has a lot of disadvantage. For example. When you need an instant cash, you cant easily turn it into cash. BItcoin is good for online and not offline.
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August 14, 2016, 03:13:18 PM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 

I think it is more easier to convice your boss to pay you in bitcoin , if he uses bitcoin to but if not he will be not able to pay you he pay you with digital currency which is using to pay some employes. And for local store some stores now are accepting bitcoin as a payment where they gonna do is to scan your bitcoin wallet and send your payments.
Only some local store from big city's are accepting bitcoin. You cant go at any local store and buy what you want

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August 14, 2016, 03:13:50 PM
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Its very hard to convince any local store to accept bitcoin. First it needed internet access to do the payment. Second, the payment process takes a little bit of time than paying a physical money. And third, the fluctuation of btc value. The price of your product is very unstable. Maybe you can do it in an online store because its an fast and easy way to pay.
Employer is easier to convince but it has a lot of disadvantage. For example. When you need an instant cash, you cant easily turn it into cash. BItcoin is good for online and not offline.

It may be true enough, but if your offline store is not doing so. Then the function of the offline store I think will be more lost and finally they will go bankrupt because of lack of balance in their store. The online store is indeed very suitable by bitcoin, but offline I see should also be used. because lots of project that could contribute to (gain) into their stores. For example, they don't have to keep money in a safe place for bitcoin provides a very safe and very secure
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August 14, 2016, 03:15:36 PM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 

I had a job once, it was three months ago and it was one time job, and when the job was done my employer asked me how I want to receive my payment because he was in another country at the moment and wasn't going to come back for some time. So I told him he can pay in Bitcoins and he accepted this with joy because he already had a bitcoin wallet and he thought that this method is the most convenient.

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August 14, 2016, 04:11:56 PM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 

I think it is more easier to convice your boss to pay you in bitcoin , if he uses bitcoin to but if not he will be not able to pay you he pay you with digital currency which is using to pay some employes. And for local store some stores now are accepting bitcoin as a payment where they gonna do is to scan your bitcoin wallet and send your payments.
Only some local store from big city's are accepting bitcoin. You cant go at any local store and buy what you want
come one man,there's still exist an online shop which will ship you the requested stuff,it's 2016 and things is goes online now,doesn't need to go anywhere to get what you need as long you can pay it through online

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August 14, 2016, 04:18:42 PM
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While it depends on who it is specifically that you're trying to convince, I have a feeling it is far easier to convince a local store owner to accept Bitcoin. An employer would have to be making a special exception for you personally, while a store owner would just be broadening who can pay him. It would be far easier for a store owner to get everything set up in comparison to what an employer would be willing to do.
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August 14, 2016, 04:21:01 PM
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Depends a lot, if you go to a town that barely has any tech knowledge and tell them about bitcoins, it wont go well.

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August 14, 2016, 04:31:47 PM
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Is it easier to convince an Employer to pay you in Bitcoin or is it easier to convince your local Store (where you buy your Food) to accept Bitcoin?
Did you already tried to do that? And if so how did you do it and with what results? 
 

I think both are hard to convince. But more likely a local store would be easier if you have the tools and gadget needed for the setup.  They will think that it would be an opportunity to get a new set of client and that is the bitcoin user.  If explained well, they might setup a range of item for this kind of client.  Who knows, a miner would be in sale in the store near you if you are succesful in  convincing them Cheesy

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