[WTS] 3x60GHs BFL ASIC August 2012 Pre-orders for sale 110 BTC/piece bid

[xorred]

The 3 SCs (60GHs) are agreed for hosting with Josh at BFL, he can be involved in the sale / transfer to you process as he manages the hosting.

Selling only for BTC, after the transfer of ownership has been confirmed by BFL & Josh to you (50% in advance, 50% after).

All kinds of verification including with reputed members of the forum will be accepted.

The order number is 44XX, from August 2012.

starting bid: BTC110/piece.

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[cdog]

cost?

[xorred]

highest bidder takes it all.

[SgtSpike]

I'll go 1 BTC on the lot!

[MiningBuddy]

Give me something to work with here OP

[xorred]

starting bid: 60btc/piece, reference: Avalon is 75 BTC for 85GHs.

[xorred]

history of running scams? Please send proof of any scammed customer for any of their previous products.

[xorred]

I don't care about anyone's past, as long as they run their current company well. And they have thousands of happy FPGA customers, so you might as well mind your own business if you're not interested in buying.

[2weiX]

I'll bid 4000USD each (or the equiv in BTC), shipped.

[EricTyle]

I'll bid 4000USD each (or the equiv in BTC), shipped.

Why are people paying a $2700 premium on a 1300 machine that will temporarily deflate the price of your investment as everyone sells the coins they get to make back on their investment? I'm planning on cashing out in SR as soon as I hear BFL is released.

[Minor Miner]

I don't care about anyone's past, as long as they run their current company well. And they have thousands of happy FPGA customers, so you might as well mind your own business if you're not interested in buying.

If pasts do not matter to you, why are you asking for references for the person that is bidding on your imaginary machine?
Since we are dreaming here, I will bid $5,000 for it, but Josh and Sonny need to deliver it.   Are they eligible to leave their home state or is that a felony for them?   Please confirm.

[xorred]

you guys are funny

The offer is on until BFL ships. If nobody buys by then, I'm keeping the machines for myself.

The $4000/per item offer I received is the last valid bid - serious bids beyond that will be considered. Actually, since my order was from August, it will be ready about a month from the first shipment date - and that leaves you a month after they ship their first item. However, the price bid (initial bid) will be hard at 85 BTC per item the moment BFL ships their first units.

[xorred]

Since Josh just sent an update (in another thread) and will update the status thread today or tomorrow - you might consider my thread again. They are going to ship 300 units per day - meaning they'll get to my order in exactly 14 days from the first shipment day.

[Minor Miner]

How will YOU guarantee that your unit will ship in 14 days?   300 units of what per day shipping?   Did you make sure he has the capacity to ship that many?

[xorred]

I am just repeating the words of Josh (BFL).

[xorred]

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/692-bfl-asic-status-2.html Anyone interested - is getting out of time. Bid or lose - as I said, as soon as the units start hashing (I have ordered local US hosting for mine) they are not a deal anymore - I'll keep them to myself.

[zvs]

they will probably be about 1/4th the value once they start hashing

far better to capitalize on the current hysteria, and that includes that $4000 offer

[xorred]

but of course Hysteria... this happened when CPU mining turned into GPU mining, then came FPGAs, then ASICs are coming, the world ended each time, everyone dealing with mining went bankrupt multiple times...

Do you have a pre-order from August 2012? No. Move on with your life and wait for your 2013 units to ship 

[Minor Miner]

I do not understand you.   on this board you are selling this pre-order like it is gold, yet on BFL's site you are ranting and raging against them?   Which is it?   Do you have something that you should try and get a refund on or do you have something that is really valuable?   

[BBQKorv]

I could buy them off your hands the moment you have them in your hands.

[xorred]

I'll never have them in my hands - agreed to host them with BFL due to the stupendously horrendous taxes / delivery to my fkin country.

The moment they start hashing though, you'll have to pay a hefty premium to convince me to part with them   I just know myself... I could agree to sell them in a month after though, who knows? 70% will still be waiting for theirs even then...

The difficulty now is 6 million.

At a difficulty of 96 million, I will make back my investment in 54 days and profit 24K in 12 months.

[xorred]

the prices going up.... up.... how high can they go?

The minimum bid hasn't changed. 60 BTC/SC. You can wait as long as you want to to decide - I'll be here

[xorred]

Will see you  when my SCs start hashing - the moment they do start hashing, the minimum bid jumps to 170 BTC / SC


Edit: you know what? The minimum bid has just jumped to 85 BTC. I haven't made a preorder in August 2012 for nothing, people with much later pre-order dates are selling higher than me.

[quicklynx]

For August pre-orders, 85 BTC at the current rate, $133USD, is a steal compared to what they are going for on eBay.

I'm sure some would prefer to pay cash, as BTC could continue to rise, but with a little work one could pay with BTC at current rate, then with their own cash buy the BTC back at an exchange.

Personally, I'd hold onto the August pre-orders. I do think BFL WILL ship out eventually, and I do believe the early goers are going to profit huge on it, despite the raise in difficulty. Having an August pre-order is close enough to the beginning that you might actually get it in a timely manner AFTER they start shipping.

All that being said my pre-orders are in early February and can get what he is asking for in terms of USD.

GLWS

[xorred]

whoopsy some slow pokes just lost a bit more.

With the announcement of the new prices by BFL (and the fact that the most powerful SCs are now 50GHs, and mine will still be 60GHs, the price just rose to 90 BTC/piece. I will be raising the price 1 BTC/day (that's how much the units will make at 66 Million difficulty per unit) from now on. Will announce price changes every 5 days.

90 BTC/piece.

[Minor Miner]

whoopsy some slow pokes just lost a bit more.

With the announcement of the new prices by BFL (and the fact that the most powerful SCs are now 50GHs, and mine will still be 60GHs, the price just rose to 90 BTC/piece. I will be raising the price 1 BTC/day (that's how much the units will make at 66 Million difficulty per unit) from now on. Will announce price changes every 5 days.

90 BTC/piece.

A little off topic here but can anyone tell me the legality of selling a position in something that turns out to be a ponzi scheme?   Is the re-seller also guilty of a crime?

[SgtSpike]

whoopsy some slow pokes just lost a bit more.

With the announcement of the new prices by BFL (and the fact that the most powerful SCs are now 50GHs, and mine will still be 60GHs, the price just rose to 90 BTC/piece. I will be raising the price 1 BTC/day (that's how much the units will make at 66 Million difficulty per unit) from now on. Will announce price changes every 5 days.

90 BTC/piece.

A little off topic here but can anyone tell me the legality of selling a position in something that turns out to be a ponzi scheme?   Is the re-seller also guilty of a crime?

Only if they knew that it was a ponzi and someone can prove that they knew it.

[xorred]

I am sure it is not a ponzi - they just have taken a bite they can't easily swallow (production / orders) but they'll get there.

[tempt]

I am sure it is not a ponzi - they just have taken a bite they can't easily swallow (production / orders) but they'll get there.

There was a auction for a 63ghash avalon batch  3 did go for 77btc and you ask 90

[xorred]

this batch 3 will arrive in ... nobody knows when. Most probably when the difficulty will turn it meaningless. My SCs will start hashing really soon, so... yea, bla bla, I'll probably keep them anyway lol  Also... are you kidding me? The sale price was higher.
90? You should check this thread next week, when they'll be 95. Or 2 weeks from now, when they'll be 100 each.

[kpriess]

The fact that you are putting pressure on possible bidders for a vaporware product will not help you..

[xorred]

you don't understand this is not pressure.

First and foremost: trolling of the imbeciles who do nothing more but come here, drool and spam, but can't afford it (and still spam)

Second: really, I don't care - I will raise the bid every week with 5BTC/piece, and it will still be competitive. If you don't like my shop, you're free to visit any other shop down the street,

Ciao!

[Trance104]

I'd be interested, but only in escrow.

[xorred]

the arrangement process would be long enough (for mutual authentication, communicating order change with bfl (they're SLOW), etc) to accommodate an escrow and everything. Feel free to bid in the thread though I am definitely not in a hurry - BFL has not shipped yet, people are hesitant to buy... when they ship - it should be a whole different story. So I can wait.

[tempt]

this bfl order will arrive in ... nobody knows when. Most probably when the difficulty will turn it meaningless. My SCs will start hashing nobody knows when, so... yea, bla bla, I'll probably keep them anyway lol  Also... are you kidding me? The sale price was higher.
90? You should check this thread next week, when they'll be 95. Or 2 weeks from now, when they'll be 100 each.

fixed that for you

[xorred]

go on You're helping my sales and an eventual customer finding me - so the more spam and angry imbeciles - the better. I'm not the first one to sell a place in the queue + the actual 3 SCs - and once again... the moment they start hashing, the price is going to get much higher. It's irrelevant if you get mad at the fact, stomp your feet, call the Gods or cry out of anger - the minimum bid will get 5BTC higher / piece every week and will raise exponentially once the devices start hashing.

That's the sign on my shop - if you don't like it - buy somewhere else, I'll wait for the customers who are ok with the rules in my shop.

[MXRider]

Your price is too high. There are people like me who have ordered earlier than you and are willing to sell for 60BTC.

[xorred]

well, sell then My price is set by me, for my 3 SCs. Plus, who says it is high? Because the value of the BTC has jumped? What happenes if in 2 months it falls to $50/BTC? Or $10/BTC? Some people really don't understand the BTC economy. I'm not selling for dollars, I'm selling for BTC. And these 3 little puppies generate BTC like crazy. They will arrive much earlier than the others, hence - > the price. You think that is high? Check back on 11th of April. Then on 15th, 21st, 29th... .etc

Once BFL ships in the end of April, check again. And - if by then nobody has bought them (which is a real possibility) - and mine start hashing - check the price once again, you will be surprised how high it will go.

Many newcomers to this game don't have a single clue about investing. If you invest 90K and in 12 months make 120K out of it - you've made a profit of 30K and that's considered a glamorous win. A 12 month ROI with a profit is more than most investors can even dream of.

This hardware will continue making money for an indefinite amount of time - and its profitability will reach 0 only when there is ASIC v2 on the market - which won't happen in at least 2 years, knowing how much time it took to develop the current hardware.

After all - once again - if nobody buys at this price, they will work for me and I won't regret not selling them - the extra 2 months of mining will well pay for themselves.

[piit79]

Yeah yeah, all fairly valid points.

But your arrogance won't really help you build a good reputation here.

I've got an early August pre-order myself and I'm keeping it. But I'm not holding my breath for late-April shipping, that's why I recently purchased a few more GPUs, they will still pay for themselves before ASICs arrive

[xorred]

Thanks

In the meantime:

The minimum bid has risen to 95 BTC/SC, as promised.

BTC just crashed from 266 to 120 and still falling. Anyone still thinks the price I'm asking is too high? It's a 90 day average btc output per device. Pretty realistic price for something which is 8 months ahead compared to if you buy today.

[xorred]

the price of usd/btc is pretty low for a while, here's your chance to own 3 SCs!

[computerparts]

Too bad you got greedy. I would have taken the 90 btc bid when exchange rates were still high. More crashes are coming. Sell while it's still worth something.

[xorred]

thanks for upping my thread

Update: the price will be 100 BTC / item in 3 days. Just a reminder if there is anyone believing the price is going down - it's not, and the moment BFL ships, it's up 30%.  Remember: this thread is mostly for my own personal entertainment - I just enjoy it when trolls get mad and spit in fury.

In the meantime: I would actually prefer to mine with these. If anyone has the balls - they'll bid and win - if not, so much the better for me.

[xorred]

The price climbed to BTC100 per SC

[xorred]

I just came here to tell you all,

bfl has just shipped it's first 2 units. Reviews are incoming - in the mean time, feel free to say BFL is a scam and that the 3 SCs are not gonna ship, like, ever, and that the price is too high, and bla bla.

The price of my units is only going higher - I bet the ones who were ready to buy at 60 are beating themselves up for hesitating - probably the same is gonna happen to the ones who are hesitating at 100.... soo... yea.

Just coming to say hi, bfl shipped, naysayers - booo yaaaaa

[xorred]

I just came here to tell you all,

bfl has just shipped it's first 2 units. Reviews are incoming - in the mean time, feel free to say BFL is a scam and that the 3 SCs are not gonna ship, like, ever, and that the price is too high, and bla bla.

The price of my units is only going higher - I bet the ones who were ready to buy at 60 are beating themselves up for hesitating - probably the same is gonna happen to the ones who are hesitating at 100.... soo... yea.

Just coming to say hi, bfl shipped, naysayers - booo yaaaaa

http://codinginmysleep.com/bfl-jalapeno-unboxing-and-demo/

[xorred]

The price per SC is now BTC105

[xorred]

The price per SC is now BTC110

[xorred]

The price per SC is now BTC115

[xorred]

oooops!

As promised, when BFL starts shipping SCs, the price jumps 30%. here it goes:

The bid per SC is now BTC145

[starsoccer9]

dude your out of your mind. no one was buying at 110 so now you want people at 145

also fyi bfl has been claiming to ship for months now. yea they shipped a few 5ghs miners doesnt quite prove anything else besides that they can mine at 5ghash and not keep anything other specs the same and delays of 7months and still claim the same price.

my bid would be 75btc

[jc328]

Hi,

I'd be interested in a bid of 90/per and we'd definitely use an escrow.  Thanks!

-JC

[xorred]

BFL started shipping SCs. Update your news sources.

Mine will be mining in 2 weeks - you can jump onboard or wait for yours to ship in 3 months when the difficulty will be 166 Million or higher - do the math on the popular profit calculator of your ROI.

The price per SC is 145 bitcoins. The price today is 90 usd - the price in a week will be $150 USD - again, be fast or watch the thread be filled with spammers, trolls or whatever.

As expressed already multiple time - I am more interested financially in mining than selling - if you don't like the price, I'll just mine more than 145 bitcoins per item myself and be ok with that. The only reason I'm selling is that I would prefer having the coins and sitting on them faster than having to wait 6 months to mine them - not exactly the most patient guy I am.

The price will continue to climb every five days, whether you like it or not - and I will eventually delist this thread as soon as the SCs start mining at BFL's colocation facility - as then I'll just prefer to keep the coins for myself.

Me? Out of my mind? 145x90 usd = 13K usd. That's twice lower than the highest ebay bid now for 25K per SC. Do your math kids, trolling ups my thread so thanks for that!

[derr777]

Tone down the attitude and you might get a buyer..  Its obvious you don't really want to sell, and likely will never have a buyer, but I'm not sure you even want one, so thats probably ok.

But either way, the attitude would keep me away, and I'm one of those who has the means to pay you, so take that advice for what its worth... good luck,

[xorred]

the tone is perfectly chimed with the tone of the trolls who come here and spam my thread. If it was a shop selling widgets and people not interested in buying just came in every 5 minutes telling the shop owner the widgets should be worth this and that rather than what is on the price tag, anyone would get annoyed. I, on the other hand, am one of the people who don't bend over to someone just because they want to offend them or their merchandise.

If you check page 1, there were such calling BFL & me with them a scam. So the tone is perfectly well responding to them now that BFL actually started shipping. I am 100% sure the people who came and shat all over my thread at the start are still here, still seeing it upped etc - so it's all for them, in a wrap and with a red ribbon.

There has not been a single harsh word to anyone who replied seriously or asked a serious question. If you're serious - you are going to get the attention and respect you deserve.

[Syke]

BFL started shipping SCs. Update your news sources.

Mine will be mining in 2 weeks - you can jump onboard or wait for yours to ship in 3 months when the difficulty will be 166 Million or higher - do the math on the popular profit calculator of your ROI.

Best of luck with your auction, but an August order is most definitely not going to be mining in 2 weeks.

[xorred]

Thanks for the guess, but your order is most definitely not going to start mining before mine

Correction: seems BFL has just started testing the SCs. In any case, the lead time for my order is quite good (for me)

Edit: I have found the perfect reply to poor trolls:

Haters gonna hate

[xorred]

i am asking the mods to delete the topic (the whole thread) as I've decided to keep the SCs for myself. You can only become a miner once in your lifetime with such a powerful machines. Douches, thanks for spamming my thread and convincing me you should not get the SCs

[bcpokey]

i am asking the mods to delete the topic (the whole thread) as I've decided to keep the SCs for myself. You can only become a miner once in your lifetime with such a powerful machines. Douches, thanks for spamming my thread and convincing me you should not get the SCs

+1
Please delete this thread.

[computerparts]

i am asking the mods to delete the topic (the whole thread) as I've decided to keep the SCs for myself. You can only become a miner once in your lifetime with such a powerful machines. Douches, thanks for spamming my thread and convincing me you should not get the SCs

Hahaha! Once in a lifetime?? These things will be more or less mainstream by the end of the year.


 

[xorred]

lol

poor trolls are poor

[xorred]

Actually, you know what?

BTC150 minimum bid per item.

[xorred]

offer is still valid - there's been a lot of shit in this thread (and I don't let myself without throwing your shit back at ya) - but the 3 Singles (will probably receive a few jalapenos + to match the 180 GHs, or be overclocked/higher spec) will ship really soon, as we can all see.

150 BTC per item, a total of 450 BTC.

[detail3]

Try raising the price again, that might work 

[xorred]

patience, my friend. As soon as they start hashing, I'll raise it - and it will still be lower than the bids of others who are already hashing. Remember, one side of this thread is to have fun over the trolls like you who will eventually see themselves being wrong

[detail3]

Are you kidding?! I love this thread, I'm no troll...I want to see another price hike...I'm sure you'll find a buyer this time at 150 BTC.  In fact I can't believe somebody hasn't jumped on it yet! 

[xorred]

you obviously don't get it I don't care if I sell - at least I don't care as much as you want to. The price is 150 - if not, I'll just keep them and make more in their lifetime.

[e4xit]

What a loser you are xorred...

Here, have some food. 

[scout113]

BFL started shipping SCs. Update your news sources.

Mine will be mining in 2 weeks

Sooooo.... I take it that your units aren't mining?

[computerparts]

BFL started shipping SCs. Update your news sources.

Mine will be mining in 2 weeks

Sooooo.... I take it that your units aren't mining?

I take it that they aren't even made 

[scout113]

BFL started shipping SCs. Update your news sources.

Mine will be mining in 2 weeks

Sooooo.... I take it that your units aren't mining?

I take it that they aren't even made 

[xorred]

400 units are being made and shipped per day. I'll laugh really soon Apply the cold water to yourself, because I won't even wait for shipping - it will start mining at Josh's location in community hosting as soon as it's made! Muahahaha!

[joshv06]

400 units are being made and shipped per day. I'll laugh really soon Apply the cold water to yourself, because I won't even wait for shipping - it will start mining at Josh's location in community hosting as soon as it's made! Muahahaha!

I am selling 2 SC July Pre-orders. Check my ad:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215571.0

[erschiessen]

400 units are being made and shipped per day. I'll laugh really soon Apply the cold water to yourself, because I won't even wait for shipping - it will start mining at Josh's location in community hosting as soon as it's made! Muahahaha!

I am selling 2 SC July Pre-orders. Check my ad:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=215571.0

Ran across them on ebay...
BTC400+ each?

Good luck with that.

[xorred]

I am locking the topic due to all the crap the trolls threw in here. Will start a new one, same prices, though - so feel free to drop by and leave your droppings, which your mothers and fathers have so generously put into your heads with their proper parenting